JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Oh, on my side, I'm taking notes on who you are pointing out, so after landlubber and you, they are the next on my list.
A Tale of One City [Game Thread]
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Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Hey Joan, when everyone thought you were scum, how did I treat you?
Keep an open mind please. The scum team has 4, not 3, which is the whole basis I had for thinking BSmith was townie. If they have 4, then bussing and distancing and making townies look bad is how half their team is going to survive over most of the townie team, saying the rest of us look scummy and forcing several mislynches. They're going to get a return on their NinjaCow investment which I forced, by the way, and they're going to continue to get credit for busting him when all they did was join his wagon late. And you also saw, they played both sides of that lynch! One of them was voting for you, Joan! That means their votes offset each other, WE lynched NinjaCow, their votes ended up not affecting the outcome. Don't give them credit for the correct lynch, give YOURSELF credit for it. A team of 4 scumbags is GOING TO BE ON THE NINJACOW AND BIGTIN WAGONS, BOTH OF THEM!!!!
This is BS, and you folks need to wake up and see it.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Thank you, Joan. All I'm asking is for you to continue to think, because even though you self-voted at one point, the mafia did try to lynch you as an alternative to Ninja before he flipped. You're basically the only townie I can write off here as townie.
If this was a team of 3 then yes I could write off BSmith but I can't, and none of you should either.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Now, since none of you are going to listen to me until I am dead and flipped, I'm going to solve the game for you, and you're going to thank me when the game is over because I kicked you in the face and told you to do some g-d work around here and you didn't listen so I did it myself.
Here it is, you lazy complacent fools.
Mergle joined the cow wagon too, after BSmith flipped his vote. This tally was corrected by me.
Mergle, like BSmith, was not the decisive factor in the NinjaCow lynch.
You other townies correctly followed my lead and lynched him. BSmith was trying to get ME lynched and NinjaCow was trying to get JoanK lynched and Mergle was trying to get JoanK lynched.
They joined NinjaCow's wagon late, and at precisely the right moment in BSmith's case to bus his partner and make himself look good and distance himself from BigTin who joined the wagon on the alternative candidate at the same time he joined the wagon on Cow.
So, between the two of them, the tie on Ninja was maintained, they didn't actually bus their partner, they didn't make it any more sure that Ninja would die, and yet, regardless of who got lynched that round, they had distanced themselves greatly.
1) They did try to spare NinjaCow, but they performed this maneuver and it made both BSmith and Mergle no longer the focus of attention by anyone but me.
2) They would get credit for putting attention on BigTin, and they pushed for BigTin to die so that they would look super townie, making up for their mistake of trying to spare NinjaCow, and making me look bad and turning me into a lynch target at the same time.
3) The wagons on both candidates were so large that they were essentially forced into joining them. They have the personnel to spare, they needed to distance themselves from Ninja, and each other.
That's why this is right. Your mafia were on both wagons, AND they ALSO FLINCHED and did not want NinjaCow to go down immediately on round two EITHER.
Look at the BigTin wagon;
But first, you guys go back and you read the post-NinjaCow nighttime chat.
Observe BSmith.
If BSmith is mafia, he's under severe pressure from me, his teammate just died, and I'm also calling for Mergle to die.
Now, he distanced himself from BigTin, but there's enough scrutiny on BigTin that I said BigTin was going to die too.
That's everyone.
So, if town just lynched your partner, on ATPG's advice, on round 2, and he's also calling for YOUR head, and your partner's heads, what do you do?
Round three, Mergle and BSmith push for Bigtin to die, HARD.
And, the night before, BSmith is pushing HARD the idea that I AM TRYING TO SAVE BIGTIN.
So he pushes Bigtin to his death, insisting that this will prove him townie AND that it will prove that I WAS TRYING TO SAVE BIG TIN.
Well what happens?
I bet the farm that BSmith is full of BS, and I look like an ass when BigTin flips mafia.
Now I'm suspect numero uno, you all forgot about BSmith, and nobody wants Mergle dead.
That completely changed the game for both BSmith and Mergle. And they had to do it because I was FRICKING RIGHT and THEY WERE ALL GOING TO DIE.
They joined this wagon early, and BOTH BSMITH AND MERGLE SAID THAT BIGTIN's actions were scummy the round prior, when BOTH OF THEM TRIED TO SAVE NINJACOW.
They distanced themselves from BigTin and NinjaCow after their first attempt to save the team failed.
Now you will forget Mergle and BSmith but will any of you wake up and smell the pizzaguy when I turn out to be right and the mafia never murders them, even though you won't lynch them because they're obviously so townie now?
GET IT NOW???
You guys forced their entire team into jumping through hoops, and they're jumping through them, and you're so dazzled by the performance that you've all DISCONNECTED YOUR BRAINS and are just letting round after round slip by with no further discussion, a whole fistful of bad assumptions, and worse, since you're all doing the failwagon, there's no way to gain further data regarding who is acting off.
All the incriminating data will have happened during these two rounds I'm talking about and you're all just going to fricking forget it happened and every single player who actually remembers and analyzes and goes back to re-read WILL END UP DEAD and BSmith and Mergle will win and you guys will have let it happen because you were impressed with their bussing maneuver.
It. Is. The. Oldest. And. Most. Commonly. Used. Maneuver. In. Mafia. Games.
And.
You.
Are.
Falling.
For.
It.
Don't say I didn't fricking warn you.
Here it is, you lazy complacent fools.
Mergle joined the cow wagon too, after BSmith flipped his vote. This tally was corrected by me.
Mergle, like BSmith, was not the decisive factor in the NinjaCow lynch.
You other townies correctly followed my lead and lynched him. BSmith was trying to get ME lynched and NinjaCow was trying to get JoanK lynched and Mergle was trying to get JoanK lynched.
They joined NinjaCow's wagon late, and at precisely the right moment in BSmith's case to bus his partner and make himself look good and distance himself from BigTin who joined the wagon on the alternative candidate at the same time he joined the wagon on Cow.
So, between the two of them, the tie on Ninja was maintained, they didn't actually bus their partner, they didn't make it any more sure that Ninja would die, and yet, regardless of who got lynched that round, they had distanced themselves greatly.
1) They did try to spare NinjaCow, but they performed this maneuver and it made both BSmith and Mergle no longer the focus of attention by anyone but me.
2) They would get credit for putting attention on BigTin, and they pushed for BigTin to die so that they would look super townie, making up for their mistake of trying to spare NinjaCow, and making me look bad and turning me into a lynch target at the same time.
3) The wagons on both candidates were so large that they were essentially forced into joining them. They have the personnel to spare, they needed to distance themselves from Ninja, and each other.
That's why this is right. Your mafia were on both wagons, AND they ALSO FLINCHED and did not want NinjaCow to go down immediately on round two EITHER.
Look at the BigTin wagon;
But first, you guys go back and you read the post-NinjaCow nighttime chat.
Observe BSmith.
If BSmith is mafia, he's under severe pressure from me, his teammate just died, and I'm also calling for Mergle to die.
Now, he distanced himself from BigTin, but there's enough scrutiny on BigTin that I said BigTin was going to die too.
That's everyone.
So, if town just lynched your partner, on ATPG's advice, on round 2, and he's also calling for YOUR head, and your partner's heads, what do you do?
Round three, Mergle and BSmith push for Bigtin to die, HARD.
And, the night before, BSmith is pushing HARD the idea that I AM TRYING TO SAVE BIGTIN.
So he pushes Bigtin to his death, insisting that this will prove him townie AND that it will prove that I WAS TRYING TO SAVE BIG TIN.
Well what happens?
I bet the farm that BSmith is full of BS, and I look like an ass when BigTin flips mafia.
Now I'm suspect numero uno, you all forgot about BSmith, and nobody wants Mergle dead.
That completely changed the game for both BSmith and Mergle. And they had to do it because I was FRICKING RIGHT and THEY WERE ALL GOING TO DIE.
They joined this wagon early, and BOTH BSMITH AND MERGLE SAID THAT BIGTIN's actions were scummy the round prior, when BOTH OF THEM TRIED TO SAVE NINJACOW.
They distanced themselves from BigTin and NinjaCow after their first attempt to save the team failed.
Now you will forget Mergle and BSmith but will any of you wake up and smell the pizzaguy when I turn out to be right and the mafia never murders them, even though you won't lynch them because they're obviously so townie now?
GET IT NOW???
You guys forced their entire team into jumping through hoops, and they're jumping through them, and you're so dazzled by the performance that you've all DISCONNECTED YOUR BRAINS and are just letting round after round slip by with no further discussion, a whole fistful of bad assumptions, and worse, since you're all doing the failwagon, there's no way to gain further data regarding who is acting off.
All the incriminating data will have happened during these two rounds I'm talking about and you're all just going to fricking forget it happened and every single player who actually remembers and analyzes and goes back to re-read WILL END UP DEAD and BSmith and Mergle will win and you guys will have let it happen because you were impressed with their bussing maneuver.
It. Is. The. Oldest. And. Most. Commonly. Used. Maneuver. In. Mafia. Games.
And.
You.
Are.
Falling.
For.
It.
Don't say I didn't fricking warn you.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Also, I really hate making the thread look ugly with size 6 font, but you wouldn't listen to me otherwise.
SORRY, I know it makes me look like an ash-hole, but you won't give me the time of day right now unless I slap you in the face with it.
Now READ IT and CONSIDER IT. Then lynch me, see I'm townie, and do what I fricking told you.
SORRY, I know it makes me look like an ash-hole, but you won't give me the time of day right now unless I slap you in the face with it.
Now READ IT and CONSIDER IT. Then lynch me, see I'm townie, and do what I fricking told you.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Yeah, because lynching inactives help the town SO much.
Seriously, anyone who does stuff like that are scum in my books. FoS: askthepizzaguy
Exhibit A: This is where NinjaCow acted like a scum and I pointed it out.
Remember this part, because you all seemed to lose your heads congratulating BSmith when BigTin flipped. I want at least as much credit as you're giving the scumbag for bussing his partner. SO LISTEN TO ME.
Exhibit B: The mafia make their mistakes and the town punishes them for it.
Nobody believes that this is a good idea and the entire town comes crashing down on NinjaCow's head so fast that they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar trying to save his butt from an early death.
BY THIS POST, THE NINJACOW IS DOOMED. He tries to save himself anyway, because otherwise I'm going to look awesome and they'll be down a member too early.
THANK YOU!
unvote; Vote:JoanK I know this is a OMGUS but voting for the obvious bandwagon AND adding nothing of value to the discussion? My scum alerts are ringning.
Also, if ATPG can OMGUS, why can't we all.
Exhibit C: Mafia leap on the only available alternate wagon. They want JoanK dead, therefore JoanK is townie.
NinjaCow commits cardinal sin of trying to be like Askthepizzaguy and fails miserably.
Exhibit D: Horse manure.
HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT PIZZA HE IS SO SCUMMY. He's way scummier than NinjaCow. Let's get him.
Exhibit E: Why Mergle is mafia. I'm correct on this. Take it to the bank, he was lurking on purpose and the only thing that woke him up was a chance to spare NinjaCow.
I call his butt out on it. You will remember this.
The use of the word "we" was correct and used as intended.
We the town should investigate and follow up on any lead that appears, and not just let it slip by, uncontested. There have been games where a simple slip like yours caught a scumbag. You are a great player, but that doesn't mean you don't make mistakes sometimes. A little light in the dark areas is never a bad thing, if you ask me.
Exhibit F: BSmith is flailing, because JoanK wagon doesn't have traction.
NinjaCow is dying = DO NOT WANT.
NinjaCow the scumbag posts saying HEY THERE IS STILL TIME TO SAVE ME, SOMEONE, ANYONE!
FoS: BigTin
You would rather have a townie gone, just because they are new? What, are you doing? Trying to save Ninja or something?
Exhibit G: MORE HORSE MANURE!!!!!!!
"Trying to save Ninja or something?" = I know NinjaCow is mafia and I am going to distance myself from you greatly when he flips and is mafia.
Then I will look like a townie King!
Maybe they don't lynch BigTin, but if they do, boy, won't I look REALLY townie if they do.
- I will have called Ninjacow and BigTin partners and been right.
That's really insightful, almost like.... DUN DUN DUN PERFECT INFORMATION SYNDROOOOOOOOME
BSmith is awesome but he's saying:
- NinjaCow is mafia, after he just did everything he could to save him.
- BigTin is mafia
- BigTin is trying to save his partner NinjaCow
- He's saying this before they flip
- When NinjaCow is at least 50% likely to be lynched
- And lynching BigTin later on could very well happen and prove him right.
So he's getting MAXIMUM CREDIT for knowing his mafia partners are both mafia before they flip. He's able to risk the whole game on shaming everyone who disagrees with him, meaning me.
He's either Nostradamus or scum, and considering how hard he tried to kill me and save Ninja, I consider this not coincidental and not prophetic. It's called knowing who the mafia are and looking good because of it.
Every mafioso can do this if they have a team of four to play with. It's not hard. It's really convincing stuff, but it's not hard.
Exhibit H: Horse manure of the century.
- Total reversal on JoanK. Suddenly he agrees, JoanK is townie.
- Look, Mergle is taking a great interest in the events of this round after apparently not having followed the game at all!
- Agree with Jarrema about BigTin's vote? You mean agree with BSmith about BigTin's vote.
Yes, in a single post, Mergle links himself to BSmith's idea that BigTin is mafia, reverses on a townie, reverses on a scumbag, and gets credit for being on the right side of history after it's already been decided.
Next round, Mergle joins the BigTin wagon early along with BSmith.
These are Mergle's contributions after having not followed the game.
He's FLINCHING!!!! He's showing massive interest in this round and he's also foreshadowing the events of the following round! This is not the behavior of a townie who isn't reading or just joined the game, he came out of lurking because his partner was on FIRE and needed dousing.
Then, when I caught his butt out on it, they had to do an epic reversal so that Mergle wouldn't lay down and die right along with NinjaCow.
It's all staged, between BSmith and Mergle, and BigTin was the method they used to deflect my attention off of both of them.
Because my attention was on both of them and their partner was dead round 2.
They needed to do this, or they'd LOSE THE GAME.
And it's all right here, in black and white, you can see it happening.
Don't deny you see this.
And now, the final nail in the coffin.
Read it over and over and over.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
You are barking up the wrong tree here ATPG. Unless of course you really are mafia and are now trying to save your buddy BigTin from further scrutiny.
Gosh pizzaguy, you were right on NinjaCow, and now you're right about me. Holy Poop, what do I do in this situation?
PANIC!
PANIC MODE!!!
We're going to lose this game! I'll be lynched tomorrow, then Mergle on day four! WHAT DO WE DO???
PANIC PANIC PANIC!!!!
BUS BIGTIN!!! SAY PIZZA IS HIS MAFIA PARTNER!!!
Only, sloppily reveal that you know BigTin and NinjaCow are both mafia before their heads have rolled.
Oooops.
Well, the townies are not going to notice that.... except Pizza.
But soon, no one will listen to him because we will push BigTin for death so hard, that we will look good.... and Pizza will look bad.
Hey, he didn't even vote for NinjaCow. Maybe we can play that angle a bit...
Tell you what. If you lynch him and he flips mafia, you can lynch me afterward and I'll even vote for me.
If he flips townie, and I do as well, you swing from the "wrong tree" by your neck and feel pain no more. Deal?
And here's why this was all forced.
Read what I said to BSmith.
Watch what happened afterward. The alternative was BSmith and Mergle BOTH DEAD.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
He wasn't genuine. AND BSMITH WAS GOING TO DIE NEXT.
I forced all of this because I pressured the right people. That's why half the mafia are dead. It beats 3/4 of the mafia being dead.
That's why you're winning, and it's also why you're going to lose. Because you lost faith in me.
Shame on you guys. All of you.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
And I'm going to be REALLY OBNOXIOUS ABOUT THIS UNTIL EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGES YOU READ ALL THAT.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU
READ IT.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU
READ IT, AND THEN TELL ME YOU READ ALL OF IT, AND UNDERSTAND IT.
Say:
Do it.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU
READ IT.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU
READ IT, AND THEN TELL ME YOU READ ALL OF IT, AND UNDERSTAND IT.
Say:
Everyone say it. Everyone.REPEAT AFTER ME said:
Do it.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
I'm going to stink up this whole thread until you take me seriously. I'll do it. I won't think twice. I'm REALLY GOOD AT IT, so don't test me.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
tl;dr
Good advice.
I think it would be too risky to let you live. Your theory is sound, but IMO there is high proability that you are mafia, and just trying to make another case to save your a***.
IF you die and I will know for sure that you were townie, I will give it a lot of thought.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
tl;dr
This will be the town's epitaph. And then I will force you to put this in your signature, or else it's going in MINE.
You think I'm trying to save myself?
REVERSE THE WAGON ON LUBBER AND LYNCH ME IMMEDIATELY.
THEN LISTEN TO ME.
Vote Askthepizzaguy
SHUT ME UP. DO IT.
I'm apparently the ballsiest mafioso ever. So cut off my balls.
Then swallow the fact that I'm a townie, and kill Bsmith, then Mergle, in that order, without any further deviation.
Oh, and you can lynch landlubber if I'm wrong on either one. I'm not saving Dick .....van Dyke.
I'm doing that thing where a townie tries to lynch scum. Prove me wrong with my death today. Today, not tomorrow.
I flip mafia, you lynch landlubber. Kay?
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Yay. I already said I'm listening. So please shut up. if nobody else votes you and you survive, we'll see tomorrow, but I think that that will be a waste of time. We should lynch you now, and then: Mergle and BSmith.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Do BSmith first. Mergle is more theory, BSmith is on much more solid ground as far as an accusation goes.
Also, I will shut up if you lynch me. Extra incentive to switch your vote! What do you have to lose? Be a good townie and lynch mister annoying townie, then lynch the scums and win. I won't take it personally that you have to see the Askthepizzaguy is innocent card to believe what I'm telling you.
I don't care that I have to die to shock some sense into you folks. It's well worth the price of admission. You're just going to lynch me later anyway right?
Get it done now. Or are you folks just scared I might be right?
Landlubber can wait, I'm the annoying one!
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Better start switching your votes, because I have not even begun to be annoying. There's lots more where this came from, and we still have alllllll of the night phase for me to yak if you let me live.
Zack
99% hot gas
And Pizza said I was panicking when I was about to be lynched.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
You have until Jan 30, 2012, 01:28 AM to correct this travesty.
Don't think that there's not enough time to switch, it only takes a small handful of you.
Landlubber will certainly vote for me. It will be really easy.
You're just going to lynch me later and the mafia will not murder me, so please, either lynch BSmith or me today.
Either one is fine. I flip mafia you can still get landlubber tomorrow.
There's really no reason whatsoever that every townie should not take me up on my offer here.
You were going to lynch me and landlubber today and tomorrow anyway so it doesn't make ANY DIFFERENCE, or at least it shouldn't. That's why this is not a bad townie move for Askthepizzaguy with the self-vote. It's one of the few exceptions where it's not anti-town.
Lynch me today, or BSmith, or BSorry.
Sorry Zack I was wrong. There, that's on record too.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
I go to work now. I'd better be dead when I get back, or else you'll see more of my posts.
Zack
99% hot gas
No, I'm just commenting that you are panicking way more than I was. I never had an octuple-post.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Ok, I believe in ATPG, so I'm trying to get him lynched AND today is my b-day. REALLY. So, instead of congratulating me or giving any presents to me, just vote ATPG, please.
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