Divine Right is a bit too far in the tech tree; by the time it become accessible to most civs almost all, if not all pagan civs will be dead. A URV that is dependent on surviving well past your historical era sounds iffy.
This is obviously historical because Protestants are inherently superior. Ask Max Weber.Protestantism still seems too easy.
Also, seems like Confucianism more than Taoism should be about influencing/converting other civilizations. After all, Confucianism is a huge influence on culture in Japan and Korea, and also to a lesser extent in SE Asia (Thailand/Khmer/Indonesia as represented in-game), but Taoism really has no presence outside of China.
Okay, that's what I came up with:
Spoiler :CATHOLICISM
- Be Pope for 100 turns
- Control the Catholic shrine and make sure 12 great prophets are settled in Catholic civilizations
- Make sure 75% of the world are controlled by Catholic civilizations
PROTESTANTISM
- Be first to discover Liberalism, Economics and Constitution
- Make sure five great merchants and engineers are settled in Protestant civilizations
- Make sure half of all civilizations are Protestant or Secular
ORTHODOXY
- Build three Orthodox cathedrals
- Control three cities with influential culture
- Make sure there are no Catholic civilizations
ISLAM
- Spread Islam to 50%
- Make sure seven great people are settled in the Muslim holy city
- Control five shrines
HINDUISM
- Settle five different great people in the Hindu holy city
- Experience 24 turns of Golden Age
- Have an average city size of 16
BUDDHISM
- Be at peace for 100 turns
- Have the highest approval rate for 100 turns
- Have no furious or annoyed relations with any civilization
CONFUCIANISM
- Have friendly relations with five civilizations
- Control the Confucian and Taoist shrine and combine their income to 40 gold
- Settle five great people in the Confucian holy city
TAOISM
- Make sure at least two other civilizations have Taoism as state religion
- Have three great wonders in the Tao holy city
- Have legendary culture in the Tao holy city
ZOROASTRIANISM
- Acquire six incense resources
- Spread Zoroastrianism to 20%
- Have legendary culture in the Zoroastrian holy city
POLYTHEISM (requires Pantheon)
- Make sure there are 15 pagan temples in the world
- Control ten wonders that require no state religion
- Don't allow more than half of your cities to have a religion
SECULARISM (requires Secularism)
- Control the temples of seven different religions
- Make sure there are 20 universities controlled by secular civilizations
- Be first to enter the industrial and modern eras
I think I'll get to implementing them tomorrow.
Okay, that's what I came up with:
CATHOLICISM
- Be Pope for 100 turns
- Control the Catholic shrine and make sure 12 great prophets are settled in Catholic civilizations
- Make sure 75% of the world are controlled by Catholic civilizations
PROTESTANTISM
- Be first to discover Liberalism, Economics and Constitution
- Make sure five great merchants and engineers are settled in Protestant civilizations
- Make sure half of all civilizations are Protestant or Secular
ORTHODOXY
- Build three Orthodox cathedrals
- Control three cities with influential culture
- Make sure there are no Catholic civilizations
ISLAM
- Spread Islam to 50%
- Make sure seven great people are settled in the Muslim holy city
- Control five shrines
HINDUISM
- Settle five different great people in the Hindu holy city
- Experience 24 turns of Golden Age
- Have an average city size of 16
BUDDHISM
- Be at peace for 100 turns
- Have the highest approval rate for 100 turns
- Have no furious or annoyed relations with any civilization
CONFUCIANISM
- Have friendly relations with five civilizations
- Control the Confucian and Taoist shrine and combine their income to 40 gold
- Settle five great people in the Confucian holy city
TAOISM
- Make sure at least two other civilizations have Taoism as state religion
- Have three great wonders in the Tao holy city
- Have legendary culture in the Tao holy city
ZOROASTRIANISM
- Acquire six incense resources
- Spread Zoroastrianism to 20%
- Have legendary culture in the Zoroastrian holy city
POLYTHEISM (requires Pantheon)
- Make sure there are 15 pagan temples in the world
- Control ten wonders that require no state religion
- Don't allow more than half of your cities to have a religion
SECULARISM (requires Secularism)
- Control the temples of seven different religions
- Make sure there are 20 universities controlled by secular civilizations
- Be first to enter the industrial and modern eras
I think I'll get to implementing them tomorrow.
Land.When you say 75% controlled by Catholic civs, do you mean in land, population or what?
I haven't thought about that, but requiring them all to be fulfilled simultaneously might make things more appropriately challenging, especially to take care of special cases like Jusos mentioned.Do the goals all have to be achieved simultaneously, or is it possible to trigger one, then the others?
I'm open to suggestions of course!At least some of these (Secularism, in particular, but also Confucianism) seem like I might win them by accident just playing along. I understand the difficulty in balancing these, but UHVs should require you to go a bit more out of the way than normal gameplay.
Are you sure you can pull of a Domination victory early enough without failing the 50% without religion goal for Polytheism? Good point about Secularism though, I'm open for better ideas there too.Polytheism and Secularism seem too easy and can be achieved by accident when going for domination victory for instance. Also the first two Orthodox goals are really easy and the last should be altered somehow, since there might be a situation that you have founded Cath. and you are the only Christian state and hurrying the AP makes you found Orthodoxy and you complete the goal by just switching into it. Also I would like to see a religion spreading goal in Catholicism.
I don't think it's that much of a problem if a URV has some sort of soft expire in this way.Furthermore, Protestantism can't be achieved by a later civ, so the tech goal should go. I thought about a similar tech goal as well, until I realised that they don't suit the URVs. Same goes for being pope, i.e. Brazil can't be pope for 100 turns, because the AP obsoletes.
Yeah, thought so too for the population, overall population is better after all. But it's meant to be five different GP types.Hinduism 16 average city size is a walk in the park and usually there are 5 GPs in Hindu holy city by default.
I considered this, but in the end it's trivial because you can force your vassals to convert.I like them, except for the make sure there are no catholic civs should probably be make sure there are no catholic civs, or that all catholic civs are vassalized to an orthodox nation
Nope. In fact you can achieve and then "lose" partial UHV goals again, because all three of them have to be fulfilled at the same time to win.what if I achieve two of urvs, will there be a bonus like triumphial arch?