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[Synobun]

From Darth Talon's article in Wookiepedia
Seriously?!? We could've had Darth Talon instead of Kylo Ren??? Or instead of Dooku? Oh the humanity that would have been so much better in either case.

Although... thinking about it... without Kylo Ren, the haters would have been even more in their feelings... but on the other hand, they were in their feelings anyway so I think I would have still rather had her than Kylo Ren, although he was still a pretty good character. Oh well... there's always the next film I guess.

I suspect they just weren't willing to figure out the practicalness of "real" lekku. Ahsoka in The Mandalorian uses "real" montrals and the only way they could get it to work with stunts and movement was if they went with teen-Ahsoka montrals instead of her adult version.

Plus, how else will you get a ham-fisted romance catered to Tumblr and Twitter than with two nondescript white people with the personalities of watered-down chicken noodle soup?

 

[r16]

no problems with mixing some Sith with some other Sith , there are far too many of them . The Twilek problem is their exploitation , you know every "dancer" in franchise is a Twilek . ı can only imagine the things to be said about George Lucas and how he raped people's sensibilities with Star Wars nudity and whatnot . Plus , who is she , Hera in the rebel cartoons ? She is much better .

 

[Sommerswerd]

That was a rather extreme suggestion to be fair

But the Sith are seriously getting boring. Surely some of them have a slightly different fashion sense from the rest. It's not like you can't be evil in a pink jumpsuit.

I don't think Darth Talon's fashion sense is boring ... Do you?

 

[warpus]

Who cares about the haters man, let their late lead them to the dark side. No sense to make big decisions about what to put in your movie based on how many people will cry about it. Just focus on the story....

Kylo Ren was the best part of the sequel trilogy. Possibly the only character in those movies that had a coherent arc from the start of episode 7 to the end of episode 9. The "best" part is of course debatable, but as far as fleshed out characters go, he was pretty interesting.. even though in ep 7 he seemed like a whiny spoiled emo brat.

I suppose I can hope that they stop with the Sith for now and give us some other baddies, who have other wardrobe and cranial uhh inclinations. And I don't know much about the extended universe or legends or whatever, but Darth Talon does look fun & badarase. Although again, her face is painted and she's red and black. Yawn.. Bit different though, so it would be fun to see her on screen nevertheless, if they insist on sticking to Sith.

I thought Dooku could have been a great baddie, just because he was a bit different. He was just a dude in a cloak from what I remember, a fallen Jedi who embraced the dark side or whatever. They didn't really explain who the hell he was and what role he was supposedly playing in the prequels, so they didn't really do him justice, but.. Give us more diversity in the baddies you show! Look at the baddies from human history - they all dressed differently, aside from the common elements you might find in the uniforms of the commies and/or fascists.

This is the reason I liked Grievous or whatever, he was different. Creativity! I don't think they used him well either, but he was at least different and that made him interesting. I don't see why you coudln't have some strange looking aliens as baddies for instance. Jabba is a great example of a baddie, although he of course lacks force abilities and would never be the main baddie in a movie (or would he?)

 

[r16]

the Sith are all the same because they were raised in Jedi like institutions , only without the age limit on acceptance . They either conform to be utterly individualistic backstabbing murderers or die on the way . The rule of two , invented to explain why there was only the Emperor and Vader , because Luke being lost in a sea of thousands of Jedi would decrease the attachment people felt to the hero . And he had his hands full fighting already . That's why Stormtroopers lost the lightsabers they would have as imagined in 1974 or 75 .

 

[Sommerswerd]

I suspect they just weren't willing to figure out the practicalness of "real" lekku. Ahsoka in The Mandalorian uses "real" montrals and the only way they could get it to work with stunts and movement was if they went with teen-Ahsoka montrals instead of her adult version.

Plus, how else will you get a ham-fisted romance catered to Tumblr and Twitter than with two nondescript white people with the personalities of watered-down chicken noodle soup?

I've been a staunch defender of the ST as you know, but I can't defend that romance, it was indeed ham-fisted and dumb... I have no idea what they were thinking with that.

You have to admit though, that nothing tops the fireplace scene in AotC where terrible acting Anakin tells Padme all that ridiculous terrible dialogue about being in agony and haunted by the kiss she never should yada yada... good grief, that was terrible.

He should have just said... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[Sommerswerd]

Who cares about the haters man, let their late lead them to the dark side. No sense to make big decisions about what to put in your movie based on how many people will cry about it. Just focus on the story....

Kylo Ren was the best part of the sequel trilogy. Possibly the only character in those movies that had a coherent arc from the start of episode 7 to the end of episode 9. The "best" part is of course debatable, but as far as fleshed out characters go, he was pretty interesting.. even though in ep 7 he seemed like a whiny spoiled emo brat.

I suppose I can hope that they stop with the Sith for now and give us some other baddies, who have other wardrobe and cranial uhh inclinations. And I don't know much about the extended universe or legends or whatever, but Darth Talon does look fun & badarase. Although again, her face is painted and she's red and black. Yawn.. Bit different though, so it would be fun to see her on screen nevertheless, if they insist on sticking to Sith.

I thought Dooku could have been a great baddie, just because he was a bit different. He was just a dude in a cloak from what I remember, a fallen Jedi who embraced the dark side or whatever. They didn't really explain who the hell he was and what role he was supposedly playing in the prequels, so they didn't really do him justice, but.. Give us more diversity in the baddies you show! Look at the baddies from human history - they all dressed differently, aside from the common elements you might find in the uniforms of the commies and/or fascists.

This is the reason I liked Grievous or whatever, he was different. Creativity! I don't think they used him well either, but he was at least different and that made him interesting. I don't see why you couldn't have some strange looking aliens as baddies for instance. Jabba is a great example of a baddie, although he of course lacks force abilities and would never be the main baddie in a movie (or would he?)

Jabba was indeed an awesome villain, for so many reasons. I don't care for the CGI Jabba they added to ANH in the Lucas cut, that Jabba is silly and not at all true to the original RotJ Jabba. I liked Grievous in the cartoon, but I didn't feel that the one in the film did the cartoon one justice. They made him seem too cowardly and too easily defeated by Obi Wan. They damn near redshirted him. I've mentioned before that I think a resurrected , cybernetic spider-like Darth Maul would have been better story-wise in place of the Grievous character, and served the same purpose, with more emotional connection, and would especially worked even better as Obi Wan's hated nemesis. Because of their history, Maul could have even shown Obi Wan struggling with "dark side" feelings like revenge and hate.

I agree that Kylo Ren was one of the best parts of the ST, so that would have been a tough loss. I still would have liked to see Darth Talon though... even if she was in addition to Kylo Ren. Maybe she could have been a real "Knight of Ren" instead of those ridiculous redshirts we got. They were pointless. Talon would have certainly been more interesting than a completely underutilized Gwendoline Christie in a shiny stormtrooper suit. God, when I think about how fantastic she was in GoT, it actually makes me a little upset that they wasted her talent in that tin can with no lines... I mean don't get me wrong, the suit was cool, but so much potential was squandered with that character.

 

[warpus]

I agree with pretty much everything in the above post. I am also still a bit upset at what they did with Finn (or rather what they didn't do with him). He had one of the best setups in episode 7, and then it didn't go anywhere. From what I've read on the internets, this was because he did actually have a bigger part written for him for episode 8 or 9, but it got axed because certain target markets do not take kindly to heroes with that sort of skin tone... So that's pretty horrible. I believe one of the potential ideas was a stormtrooper uprising on Coruscant, which sounds amazing. That could be a movie by itself, starring Finn, who seemed great in his role, with lots of chemistry with other key characters.. But from what I understand the actor has said that unless he needs money, he's never doing Star Wars again. I don't blame him

 

[Arakhor]

Technically, Palpatine does indeed wear a mask, but it's a mask composed of Sith alchemy that hides his twisted features whilst he is still pretending to be a benevolent politician.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I agree with pretty much everything in the above post. I am also still a bit upset at what they did with Finn (or rather what they didn't do with him). He had one of the best setups in episode 7, and then it didn't go anywhere. From what I've read on the internets, this was because he did actually have a bigger part written for him for episode 8 or 9, but it got axed because certain target markets do not take kindly to heroes with that sort of skin tone... So that's pretty horrible. I believe one of the potential ideas was a stormtrooper uprising on Coruscant, which sounds amazing. That could be a movie by itself, starring Finn, who seemed great in his role, with lots of chemistry with other key characters.. But from what I understand the actor has said that unless he needs money, he's never doing Star Wars again. I don't blame him

A stormtrooper uprising, with Phasma as the main villain and Finn as the lead/hero, was exactly the side storyline I thought they were setting up. In fact there are deleted scenes in TLJ that were part of that storyline. Looking back... that would have been a much better use of the middle of TLJ, as opposed to Rose and Finn going to the Casino. What's most irritating about that is that they abandoned the Rose-Finn storyline completely in TRoS and introduced a completely new female sidekick for Finn... so what was the point of Rose? I have also heard that race played a role in the poor handling of Finn as well as Rose, but ultimately, they took a big risk with TLJ, that they could have tightened up and made into a great finale, but they chickened out in the face of haters, and gave us the cold ramen noodles that was EP 9.

 

[r16]

once again chasing pictures

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so , people want ordinary people depicted

single movies can do , but ı would say there has to be another triology to fix the mess and ordinary can not carry it to the end

maul ? Just put a round in the head and be done with it . Star Wars need lightsabers as the final arbiter of things , which then means , you know , the standart Sith stuff

hate and ego and failure in the end ... Mando love is a dead end and glorious bounty hunters with a higher skill set than the ordinary becomes unconvincing , with Aurra Singh having to become a former jedi

it is inevitable , red saber , black gear and even masks , because Vader is a tough act to follow

but then there are even bigger dangers , like Disney going this way ...

to tell the story of Hanna Solo and Chewchucca . Would naturally end bad and ı might be remembered as posting the image and thus burned in effigy in conventions for decades .

ı have always thought Palpatine was regularly healing himself and he simply gave it up after the Purge . Sith Magic in front of the whole Jedi Council , should be too risky .

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

to tell the story of Hanna Solo and Chewchucca . Would naturally end bad and ı might be remembered as posting the image and thus burned in effigy in conventions for decades .

I mean, yeah, there's a billion ways you can mishandle the premise, but what's objectively wrong about it?

 

[r16]

basically Hollywood is so much in love with the days women had to be "available" to advance that they are intentionally misplaying things . Hanna would do the Kessel Run in 9 and a half parsecs not because ship had received upgraded engines and enchanced Al but simply because anyone doubting a girl is a Nazi . Though considering we DO not know Wookies for sure , Chewchucca could really kick Chewbacca because it is like indeed possible that some genetical thing might make Wookie females much better than males ...

Moderator Action: This level of emotive language is not appropriate. ~ Arakhor

 

[r16]

Moderator Action: Post deleted. Please stay on topic and stop with the rumors. leif

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

We really need that r16-to-English dictionary, because I can't tell what you're saying sarcastically and what you actually mean.

 

[r16]

thanks for creating an impression that r16 is unhappy with Disney management of the franchise and might give up waiting for movies to happen and interfere directly .

though might not be truly entertaining .

 

[Sommerswerd]

The Mandalorian: Season 2 - Finally started watching this... just finished episode 1 and it is just as good as the first season so far. Star Wars is in good hands with Disney. Not perfect of course, but damn good.

EDIT: Watched episode 2... kinda interesting to see Rebels in X-Wings acting as jerk cops... ironic juxtaposition. Well done show... well done...

 

[EgonSpengler]

Episode 2 was the season's worst, imho. It's all on an upward trajectory after that. Episode 5 was my favorite, I think.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Well if that was the worst, I'm looking forward to the rest, because I thoroughly enjoyed that episode.

 

[EgonSpengler]

I would pay money to see episode 205 on the big screen.

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