Altered Maps 4: Partitioning Eastern Europe Like In The Good Old Days
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mythmonster2
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They control Greenland and Iceland. What's so odd?
Also, two maps that I made for no reason, half the world's population suddenly being sunk into the ocean. Pakistan was where the halfway point was so half of it got sunk. Dunno why I decided to make the countries in the first pic black.
Also, two maps that I made for no reason, half the world's population suddenly being sunk into the ocean. Pakistan was where the halfway point was so half of it got sunk. Dunno why I decided to make the countries in the first pic black.
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Mowque
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Did Alaska really have to go?
Them controlling Schleswig-Holstein all the way up to Hamburg.
I see your map and I call oversimplification
http://bioval.jrc.ec.europa.eu/products/veget_map_continental-sea/continentalSEasia.php
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This takes place in a Civ 3 Conquest story I've been working on, a bit of a modification of El Justo's famous Age of Imperialism scenario.
Basically, Britain loses both the Boer and Mahdist Wars, resulting in the loss of huge swaths of territory - Sudan, Somaliland, and most of South Africa. This causes an enormous loss in confidence in the British leadership empire-wide, with the Dominions of Australia and Canada breaking away, with only Newfoundland, Western Australia and Tasmania remaining loyal.
Due to the lack of a British "world police", the other powers spread out. America grows it's strength in the Caribbean, France/Russia/Japan expand in China, and Persia faces a Russian invasion, as does Afghanistan. Germany invades and annexes Denmark, finishing the legacy of Schleswig-Holstein forever. Greenland manages to break away and join the Scandinavians in an anti-German Alliance.
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This map is based off the story "Where Eagles Dare" in the Civ 3 Stories forum. Red is the USSR, dark red are the "allies" set up to spread the revolution across the world, and the blue are all states that defy Comrade Stalin.
The powerful USSR has seized many territories from the capitalist pigdogs. Socialist Republics stretch from Korea to France, while Comrade Stalin has made sure to reintegrate the rightful Soviet territories in the Baltic, Finland and Poland into the USSR. The hegemon of capitalist imperialism - the British Empire - remains standing, but the Party Secretary will see to them in due time. For now, the Socialist Parties of Europe unite behind the cause of Communism, marching in unison against bourgeois and industrialist oppression.
Currently, the Red Army is en route to Edirne, to beat back the Turkish military that dared to attack the Union in a coordinated assault with the Japanese. The USSR is at war with a great deal of the world's territories - the "legitimate" governments of the occupied countries have retreated to their colonies, vowing to continue the fight. Fools. Before long, the Hammer and Sickle of the workers will cover all seven continents and all four oceans.
For those who wish to get in the spirit of the Revolution... please listen to this, the remix of Soviet March, found in Red Alert 3: Uprising, Soviet March 2!
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Masada:
So the east became an Australian republic or something. I'm not sure it's realistic though - Australia at the time was staunchly, even unconditionally, British. Besides, the xenophobes in those days wouldn't want to be all alone among the Yellows.
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So the east became an Australian republic or something. I'm not sure it's realistic though - Australia at the time was staunchly, even unconditionally, British. Besides, the xenophobes in those days wouldn't want to be all alone among the Yellows.
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On my map where Britain collapses?
I somewhat simulated the enmity between the Eastern and Western segments of Australia, while my friend Auralia also informed me that the Westerners were apparently more royalist than the East(he said a fear among some Westralians was that the other parts of the area would want to become a republic, if I recall). Not being Australian myself, however, I have no clue and just took his word for it.
Edit: Dang. Taillesskangaru beat me to it, and he had an equally-good explanation as well.
Taniciusfox said:
Because economically and militarily dependent colonies are going to ditch Britain? Who could you know totally shaft the economy... it would also take all of a thousand regulars to defeat the colonial 'armies'.
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And?
Taniciusfox said:
There's always been some tension but its more along the lines of I don't know North and South Dakota?
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It wasn't equal and he didn't really offer an explanation.
East-West tension around here mostly involves AFL and the West Coast Eagles. I know there's been talk of WA independence in the 1970s IIRC but that's more over control of natural resources (WA has a LOT of iron ore, among others) rather than the Republic issue.
taillesskangaru said:
They didn't really want to join Australia in 1901, they even passed a state-wide referendum for separation during the height of the Depression but it requires a vote of all the majority of the other states to cede. Besides it was widely seen as a protest vote anyway not many people worried about it.
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Someones got to try and keep the bastards honest to borrow an Australian political phraseology of the past...
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@ Dachs:
...I'm not quite sure whether to be offended by that or not, but...
...It's true.
Besides, the whole idea behind the "collapse of Britain" wasn't really meant to be historical or realistic. It was meant as a game modification that would enable me to play Britain and actually have a challenge. In addition, it would let an ambitious player choose Canada or Australia and try not to be eaten alive.
...I'm not quite sure whether to be offended by that or not, but...
...It's true.
Besides, the whole idea behind the "collapse of Britain" wasn't really meant to be historical or realistic. It was meant as a game modification that would enable me to play Britain and actually have a challenge. In addition, it would let an ambitious player choose Canada or Australia and try not to be eaten alive.
Awesome Australian trivia 101. The preamble to the Australian Constitution:
Where in the world is Western Australia? (The Northern Territory was part of South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory hadn't even been conceived of yet).
Where in the world is Western Australia? (The Northern Territory was part of South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory hadn't even been conceived of yet).
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I see that Australia is quickly becoming the new Poland.
So, somehow, I have magically produced a third map in the timespan of an hour - and yes, I have MORE if you dare me to unleash them.
This time, my daydreams become reality... well, they always do.
I've always thought the Age of Imperialism looked kind of lame due to the fact that Spain and Portugal were nobodies in the later phases. Now, el Imperio Español(Spanish Empire) and Portuguese empire have survived! After the success of the American Revolution, the peoples of Latin America failed to throw off the chains of colonialism.
The Spanish and Portuguese each undertook a process of trying to 'nationalise' the peoples of Latin America, however, in order to try and make them more loyal. The fabrication of a common identity was necessary to prevent the collapse of such large empires.
Spain would later find itself pitted against the United States in several Spanish-American Wars - where the USA usually was backed by Britain and other rivals of Spain. The end result was the American Empire securing a huge strip of land in the West, while key islands around the Caribbean - as well as Panama - were seized. Islands in the Pacific were eventually snatched from Spain, to secure the route west to Hawaii and the Philippines.
However, despite these military setbacks, the spirit of revolution was nonetheless crushed in most places, when it became apparent not many colonists could enjoy the same success as the Americans. However, the curbing of revolutionary sentiment was also caused by the fact the Reyes - Kings - of Spain and Portugal were willing to cede some central authority to the colonists in exchange for loyalty. "Federal Imperialism" was what some began to refer to it as; a system that embraced the trappings of an imperial monarchy, yet had the federal setup the Americans were experimenting with.
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Other key developments included the American Empire working with Europeans to sponsor the "Balkan League." This league was meant to try and preserve peace in the Balkans, which many diplomats believed would cause the outbreak of a war due to competing interests. The Balkan League had tense times, but was successful. Crackdowns on terrorism ensured that Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary had a safe trip through Bosnia and the rest of his ethnically-tense provinces.
But terrorists would be the least of the Habsburg's issues. The Balkan League gradually developed cunning leaders, who plotted ways to gain power and break away from Western influence. They efficiently spent their money, monitoring every precious penny. They integrated their infrastructure, militaries, and economies. The end result was a heavily-fused Balkan League, a Confederation one could argue. The League's first main diplomatic overture was working with the other great powers in the area - Russia, Germany, and Italy - to secure the defeat of Austria-Hungary, which had it's eyes on the Balkans.
Austria-Hungary was murdered in a short time by an assault from all sides.
Italy seized the Dalmatian coast, which was considered a rightful territory via it's Venetian component, while South Tirol was also annexed.
The Balkans expanded their power drastically, with Romania doubling in size, while Serbia took a vast swath of territories populated by Croats, Bosnians and Slovenes. In exchange for this, the Serbs ceded Kosovo to Albania.
The Russian Empire took Habsburg Poland, while it also gained large parts of Slovakia and territories east of it.
The German Empire benefited perhaps the most. It not only gained German Austria, but it was able to annex Bohemia due to it's ethnic and historical links to Germany via the Holy Roman Empire.
Of course, the destruction of Austria-Hungary, such an ancient and regional power, did not come lightly to Britain and France. Even moreso when Großdeutschland more or less formed from Austria's ashes.
Narrowly avoiding confrontation, the Germans - and their three bands of allies - negotiated with the British and French. Britain and France would be able to get a free hand in Belgium in exchange for turning a blind eye. Southern Belgium was soon annexed by France, while the remainder of Belgium and it's Congo colony became an Anglo-French condominium. A minor consolation prize against the engorged Germany, but Germany promised to pursue peaceful means of policy in Europe, while it also allowed the French and British to strengthen their ties to other powers.
The Habsburgs themselves were reduced to an area around Hungary. This region itself became a puppet of the Balkan League, which soon went to war against the Turks in order to placate the Greek and Bulgarian sections of the alliance. The end result of this was the utter humilation of the Turks - who had already lost their empire to the Anglo-French alliance beforehand - and their absorption into the Balkan League, which was renamed the "Ionian League" as a public relations measure.
But like how the Delian League, an organisation formed initially for military cooperation, was corrupted into an empire once it served it's purpose, the Ionian League suffered the same fate. The Serbs began to hijack Russia's pan-Slavic rhetoric, saying that the Southern Slavs would unite under a different banner, and never Russia's. Everything from Slovenia to Bulgaria was - sometimes a bit violently - transformed into the Kingdom of Southern Slavs, sometimes called Yugoslavia, or Serbia by those who knew where the real power was. The seat of power of the Ionian League was moved to Belgrade, and an attempted mutiny by the Greeks and a few other elites in the League failed. Belgrade began to dominate it's former allies, transforming the Balkan League into a more centralised power, capable of doing quite a bit of damage to anyone in it's proximity. For some time, the Balkans would be coloquially known as the "Serbian Empire."
So, somehow, I have magically produced a third map in the timespan of an hour - and yes, I have MORE if you dare me to unleash them.
This time, my daydreams become reality... well, they always do.
I've always thought the Age of Imperialism looked kind of lame due to the fact that Spain and Portugal were nobodies in the later phases. Now, el Imperio Español(Spanish Empire) and Portuguese empire have survived! After the success of the American Revolution, the peoples of Latin America failed to throw off the chains of colonialism.
The Spanish and Portuguese each undertook a process of trying to 'nationalise' the peoples of Latin America, however, in order to try and make them more loyal. The fabrication of a common identity was necessary to prevent the collapse of such large empires.
Spain would later find itself pitted against the United States in several Spanish-American Wars - where the USA usually was backed by Britain and other rivals of Spain. The end result was the American Empire securing a huge strip of land in the West, while key islands around the Caribbean - as well as Panama - were seized. Islands in the Pacific were eventually snatched from Spain, to secure the route west to Hawaii and the Philippines.
However, despite these military setbacks, the spirit of revolution was nonetheless crushed in most places, when it became apparent not many colonists could enjoy the same success as the Americans. However, the curbing of revolutionary sentiment was also caused by the fact the Reyes - Kings - of Spain and Portugal were willing to cede some central authority to the colonists in exchange for loyalty. "Federal Imperialism" was what some began to refer to it as; a system that embraced the trappings of an imperial monarchy, yet had the federal setup the Americans were experimenting with.
---
Other key developments included the American Empire working with Europeans to sponsor the "Balkan League." This league was meant to try and preserve peace in the Balkans, which many diplomats believed would cause the outbreak of a war due to competing interests. The Balkan League had tense times, but was successful. Crackdowns on terrorism ensured that Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary had a safe trip through Bosnia and the rest of his ethnically-tense provinces.
But terrorists would be the least of the Habsburg's issues. The Balkan League gradually developed cunning leaders, who plotted ways to gain power and break away from Western influence. They efficiently spent their money, monitoring every precious penny. They integrated their infrastructure, militaries, and economies. The end result was a heavily-fused Balkan League, a Confederation one could argue. The League's first main diplomatic overture was working with the other great powers in the area - Russia, Germany, and Italy - to secure the defeat of Austria-Hungary, which had it's eyes on the Balkans.
Austria-Hungary was murdered in a short time by an assault from all sides.
Italy seized the Dalmatian coast, which was considered a rightful territory via it's Venetian component, while South Tirol was also annexed.
The Balkans expanded their power drastically, with Romania doubling in size, while Serbia took a vast swath of territories populated by Croats, Bosnians and Slovenes. In exchange for this, the Serbs ceded Kosovo to Albania.
The Russian Empire took Habsburg Poland, while it also gained large parts of Slovakia and territories east of it.
The German Empire benefited perhaps the most. It not only gained German Austria, but it was able to annex Bohemia due to it's ethnic and historical links to Germany via the Holy Roman Empire.
Of course, the destruction of Austria-Hungary, such an ancient and regional power, did not come lightly to Britain and France. Even moreso when Großdeutschland more or less formed from Austria's ashes.
Narrowly avoiding confrontation, the Germans - and their three bands of allies - negotiated with the British and French. Britain and France would be able to get a free hand in Belgium in exchange for turning a blind eye. Southern Belgium was soon annexed by France, while the remainder of Belgium and it's Congo colony became an Anglo-French condominium. A minor consolation prize against the engorged Germany, but Germany promised to pursue peaceful means of policy in Europe, while it also allowed the French and British to strengthen their ties to other powers.
The Habsburgs themselves were reduced to an area around Hungary. This region itself became a puppet of the Balkan League, which soon went to war against the Turks in order to placate the Greek and Bulgarian sections of the alliance. The end result of this was the utter humilation of the Turks - who had already lost their empire to the Anglo-French alliance beforehand - and their absorption into the Balkan League, which was renamed the "Ionian League" as a public relations measure.
But like how the Delian League, an organisation formed initially for military cooperation, was corrupted into an empire once it served it's purpose, the Ionian League suffered the same fate. The Serbs began to hijack Russia's pan-Slavic rhetoric, saying that the Southern Slavs would unite under a different banner, and never Russia's. Everything from Slovenia to Bulgaria was - sometimes a bit violently - transformed into the Kingdom of Southern Slavs, sometimes called Yugoslavia, or Serbia by those who knew where the real power was. The seat of power of the Ionian League was moved to Belgrade, and an attempted mutiny by the Greeks and a few other elites in the League failed. Belgrade began to dominate it's former allies, transforming the Balkan League into a more centralised power, capable of doing quite a bit of damage to anyone in it's proximity. For some time, the Balkans would be coloquially known as the "Serbian Empire."
Mowque
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^ Not much a of divide. More like a group of pariahs...
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