Alternate History NESes; Spout some ideas!

[erez87]

No Islam? Is that the POD?

 

[Capulet]

I bet thats it.

 

[das]

Yup. It took you a very obvious hint to guess it, though.

Okay, while I try to find the other maps, try to guess what religion is predominant in Hadramaut (the South Arabian power).

 

[erez87]

Judaism?

10101010

 

[das]

No, I did that one before. Hint: its not Christianity, neither.

 

[blackheart]

Buddhism??

 

[North King]

Is it Hinduism? Taking a leaf out of my book?

 

[Cuivienen]

Is it Zoroastrianism?

 

[das]

Buddhism??

MUWHAHAHAHA, that's what is indeed, travelling there from Ceylon.

As for Hinduism, what book? The one called "Ruins of Empires"? And other then that, Hinduism, unlike Buddhism, is a rather localized religion. Buddhism, meanwhile, is one of the most "contagious" religions I know of.

Okay, this one is very hard indeed. The year is 1910. Note that in Germany, there currently is a civil war between Kaiserist and National-Communist forces.

A hint, in a form of a history book excerpt:
"The renowned British historian and journalist Winston Churchill was quite right in terming the World War One as the "Great Revanchist War". Indeed: France was taking revenge for the Franco-Prussian War, while Russia was taking revenge for the Crimean one, and the Congress of Berlin as well. This was admitted by contemporary Franco-Russian governments, and their propaganda indeed called for revenge."

 

[Amenhotep7]

I'm going to take a wild guess here. Russia invades Ottoman Empire, retakes Constantinople? (That whole plot to "rebuild the Byzantine Empire")? But then again, this doesn;t explain many things...

 

[das]

That one happened, and was the cause of WWI in this world. But, why did it happen?

 

[erez87]

Somthin about Armenians not being left alone?

 

[Amenhotep7]

Does the PoD have something to do w/ the Ottoman Empire? It seems as though something has made the Otomans lose their foothold in Europe completely...

What's that gold nation on USA's southern border?

And why does Russia have large swaths of Manchuria and Mongolia and...well, damn-near half of Asia...

 

[North King]

Something about the Great Game leading to a Russian invasion of Persia, and retaliation by the British and their Ottoman allies? The Russians lose the war and are quite disgruntled, and then they get their vengence invading the Ottomans in World War One. They were on the Axis(?) side, and they handidly won their front, reconquering half of Persia, the Ottoman Black Sea coast, Mongolia and Manchuria from the Chinese who apparently supported the Entete, and invaded India. They were only stopped in the southern front by massive British involvement.

The Austrians for their part were not invaded by the Russians, and managed to hold their empire together for a while, but fell apart either late in the war or after it. Germany did not succeed on their front, mainly due to massive American involvement as early as 1915 (see below), and embittered by their "betrayal" by their allies the Russians who made peace and the Austrians who fell apart, they are undergoing a Communist-type revolution.

The French annexed Belgium and Lux. as part of the peace because they wanted to make sure Germany couldn't invade, or these were annexed in some earlier war. Thus Zaire became one of the first states to gain independence in Africa.

Mexico joined the Axis, because they thought with Russia aiding them, it would be an easy victory. They were wrong, and Mexico apparently was split in two, perhaps by American involvement, with much of their territory directly ceded to the American giant.

Pakistan was probably a Russian puppet state or simply a buffer state between India and Russia as part of the peace that ended World War One.

Oddities this scenario doesn't explain: Why Sweden still hasn't given up Norway, why Suriname is apparently not owned by any human nation, or at least none with a capital, how the Italians apparently won at Adowa or as part of WW1 conquered Ethiopia, why Morroco is British, etc.

 

[Cuivienen]

That scenario also does not explain why Liberia, Cuba and Panama are all directly under American control.

 

[madmapper]

What about the Conferedacy winning the U.S. Civil war? Like in Harry Turtledove's books?

 

[North King]

That scenario also does not explain why Liberia, Cuba and Panama are all directly under American control.

Perhaps since all of them were practically American puppets he left them as American directly?

 

[nonconformist]

How about where it is 1989, and Gorbachev is allowing the Soviet Republics to splinter off in the "Frank Sinatra" policy, but it all goes horribly wrong, leading to civil war within the Warsaw pact?

 

[das]

Somthin about Armenians not being left alone?

Armenian massacres took place, in OTL, in 1916.

Does the PoD have something to do w/ the Ottoman Empire?

The PoD itself... well, very, very, very, very, very indirectly.

What's that gold nation on USA's southern border?

The North Mexican Confederacy, formed by some yet another revolutionary, like say Pancho Villa.

And why does Russia have large swaths of Manchuria and Mongolia and...well, damn-near half of Asia...

They actually did hold all of Manchuria in OTL for a while. As for Mongolia, it was often as good as a part of Russia anyway.

Something about the Great Game leading to a Russian invasion of Persia, and retaliation by the British and their Ottoman allies?

Briefly put, no. But you did guess some parts, and horribly misguessed (is that even a word?) in others.

the Axis(?) side

What "Axis"? The year is 1910 right now.

reconquering half of Persia, the Ottoman Black Sea coast, Mongolia and Manchuria from the Chinese who apparently supported the Entete, and invaded India. They were only stopped in the southern front by massive British involvement.

Persia was reoccupied AFTER the war. As for Ottoman Black Sea coast (and indeed the war start), see Amen's first guess. I already said that this started WWI - read more carefully. Either way, they captured it. China supported Britain indeed, and were beaten up, and Russians did invade India, and were, along with their native allies, stopped by the British.

The Austrians for their part were not invaded by the Russians, and managed to hold their empire together for a while, but fell apart either late in the war or after it.

Oh, they were attacked by the Russians on two fronts, but this strenghthened the Hungarian support for the Hapsburgs as opposed to the pro-Russian Slavic rebels. The Austro-Hungarians were forced to grant independance to Czechoslovakia and a lot of land to Serbia/Yugoslavia.

Germany did not succeed on their front, mainly due to massive American involvement as early as 1915 (see below)

Note that the MAP is 1910. They did not suceed on their front, but the Americans were too busy dying in the trenches of Cuba...

their allies the Russians who made peace

Russians weren't German allies...

a Communist-type revolution.

A National-Communist revolution. Its a different thing, if not altogether.

The French annexed Belgium and Lux. as part of the peace because they wanted to make sure Germany couldn't invade, or these were annexed in some earlier war.

Well, it was a part of the peace admittedly, but that pretty much was a recognition of what it was de facto.

Thus Zaire became one of the first states to gain independence in Africa.

Nah. Its the Congo Free State. Remember what was the Congo Free (E)State?

Mexico joined the Axis, because they thought with Russia aiding them, it would be an easy victory. They were wrong, and Mexico apparently was split in two, perhaps by American involvement, with much of their territory directly ceded to the American giant.

Nah, Mexico remained neutral, but suffered from an earlier civil war in which USA intervenned, partially to test out new, post-Cuba military doctrines.

Pakistan was probably a Russian puppet state or simply a buffer state between India and Russia as part of the peace that ended World War One.

Yeah, a puppet state. Only its called Sind.

Why Sweden still hasn't given up Norway

An earlier World War One, including a lot of bluffing and ultimatums from both sides against poor Sweden-Norway, tends to alter its political history to prolong the unity.

why Suriname is apparently not owned by any human nation, or at least none with a capital

Uh... Lizards from Turtledove took over it, concerned by the sudden change of history and universe-blowing-up consequences of it. Or perhaps I just forgot to change the color to the Dutch one he picked for his 1914 map, whichever explanation you like better.

how the Italians apparently won at Adowa or as part of WW1 conquered Ethiopia

They conquered Ethiopia AFTER WWI in which they did considerably better and as such suspected they might stand a chance against Ethiopia this time. Against common wisdom, they did indeed win the "Adowa Rematch".

Morroco is British

They occupied it during the earlier WWI, which took place before the French conquered it. They didn't want to withdraw from it afterwards, and the French didn't really want it THAT MUCH.

That scenario also does not explain why Liberia, Cuba and Panama are all directly under American control.

Reluctance from my part to add any more states does, though. I actually do have a good explanation for Cuba part, as the "Cuban", or "Spanish-American" War was much more bloody then in OTL (the Spanish were carefully studying the early moves of WWI, and adopted some of the tactics agianst the more isolationist Americans), the Americans were more reluctant to let go of it. I think you can suppose that Liberia requested American protection after some war-time border incidents, and the same goes for Panama, though in this case the Americans had played a large part in them requesting that, afraid that the British might seize the canal after a rather nasty war-time incident caused quite a stir in British newspapers.

Another hint: It had something to do with a government change.

 

[das]

How about where it is 1989, and Gorbachev is allowing the Soviet Republics to splinter off in the "Frank Sinatra" policy, but it all goes horribly wrong, leading to civil war within the Warsaw pact?

Gorbachev DIDN'T let the Soviet republics splinter off. Eltsin did. Gorbachev, however, proved to those Soviet republics that the Soviet government is filled with idiots like himself. And how exactly is a civil war within the Warsaw Pact supposed to work?! Its not a state, and by then it largely disintegrated.