Charlemagne got whooped by Arabs?
Well, in a way and partially, though that isn't the PoD.
So that's an arabic Britain?
No...
Hmmm or Arab invasion of Byzantium gone much betteR?
YES! But why exactly did it go better?
A gigantic trans-middle east jewish empire!
And a Muslim Bulgar one, at that!
Although, ofcourse, we all know that the Wisemen of Zion are the ones trully in charge...
Hmm, I postulate that's a Celtic/Gaelic Britain...
Well, Celtic-ruled.
Eh, an Arab victory at the Battle of Tours is my first guess.
No, actually that one went as in OTL. Ofcourse, the Arabs later invaded France again with more success, foiling Charlemagne but failing to destroy the core regions of his kingdom...
errr, maybe sassanids or some other persian culture pwnd the whole eastern mediterrean, or then alexander expanded west rather than east after he conquered most of persia. Although das said that would be to early?
As I said, way too early.
Every time you lie to me, some of what is good in me dies.
There is something good in you?! Then I'd hate to see how you will be when there won't be anything good left...
That's arabic, damn, what was it that you called Cuba? Somethingstan... I'll think of it soon.
Karibistan. But no, its a different TL with a different PoD, albeit there are lots of parallels, such as a general strenghthening of Islam and weakening of the Christian countries.
I'm going to guess that the greenish state in Eastern Europe is the Golden Horde
No, it isn't. Now look where its capital is, damnit.
China is probably still Ming Dynasty, except something went wrong with driving Mongols completely out of china... Not sure how they got japan though o_0
Who Got Whom?
Unless the Mongols just failed to conquer Southern China in the first place...
That they did. They didn't even conquer Northern China from the first try, only after the uberhuge Jin Empire collapsed...
OR the Mongols did conquer all of it, and the attack on Japan succeeded, but the squabbles following the Great Khan's death split up his empire into the two Chinese states, the 3 Central Asian states, and the Eastern European state.
Nope.
Russia wiped out by the Mongols.
By the Swedes, actually... although the Greenish Muslim Power crippled Rus originally.
They probably have a permanent inferiority complex...
You'll be surprised.
Maybe France has such problems, getting attacked by everybody Christian and Muslim that could reach them, but the rest of the surviving Christian countries don't have no complex, having by now entered a golden age, some sort of a Northern Renaissance that is much greater than its OTL equivalent...
But I still think that the POD is European, or somewhere in the near vicinity of there.
Yes...
The odds of the Mongols failing to conquer Southern Song after their successful conquest of the North are very much against the Song. The Mongols had every advantage in manpower, technology, and etc and most importantly time on their side. Sooner or later the Song would have been destroyed.
The Song were crushed very early in this TL...
I must mention that the probability of two seperate Chinese states co-existing peacefully following the collaspe of the Mongolian Empire is impossible. There can be only ONE Son of Heaven so the two "Emperors" will obviously collide in war to decide who will be the man to rule China.
Well duh. The two not-very-Chinese-but-very-Sinified-by-now states have been fighting almost non-stop for almost a hundred years now, its called, predictably, the Hundred Years War.
