Alternate History Thread III

[Kal'thzar]

Good alt hist das, very intresting.

Oh thy, I might be intrested in the Norse Empire thingy...maybe.

 

[Thlayli]

Ok Kal. Unless Das or Dis wants it, I'll give you first priority.

 

[Israelite9191]

I claim the Irish (I believe no one else has). I would also like to comment that the Irish religious center should be in either Kildare or Armagh, not Gallway. Even if Gallway is the political center, Kildare (Gaelic: Cill-Dara) and Armagh (Gaelic: Ard Mhacha) were always the religious centers, with Kildare being the center of the monasteries, the most important part of the Celtic Rite hierarchy, and Armagh a more ritual center and the center of the bishops (although do note that the Abbess of Kildare was the most powerful pre-Latin figure in Celtic Rite Christianity). As for the name, I would suggest either the Celtic Church or Gaelic Church. Traditionally, the rite of Irish Christianity was known as the Celtic Rite, Gaelic Rite, or most commonly to the outside world the Rite of Collumcill (sp?), Collumcill being, in a sense, the father of the Irish monastic and missionary movement overseas (St. Patrick and St. Brighid were far more important to the Irish themselves however, as St. Patrick was the evangelizer to the Irish and Brighid played sort of the role of St. Peter, founding the closest thing Ireland had to a Papal line).

 

[Thlayli]

Ok Israelite.

I'll go with Celtic Rite (Christianity), since technically there's been no split from the mother church in Rome. Your city concerns will be addressed.

Reservations:

North King: Vijayanagara
ThomAnder: Persia
Insane_Panda: Byzantine Empire
LittleBoots: Leon
shortguy: Greater Lothringen
Wubba360: Egypt
The Farow: Bavaria
Swissempire: Andalusia
Reno: Sweden
Silver: Golden Horde
Israelite: Irish Empire
Kal'thzar: Norse Empire (potentially)

Ruleset: 100% Finished
Map: 90% Finished
Stats: 5% Finished

Expected Start Date: September 9th

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Hmm, we need some more Asians...well, you know what I mean. Africans, too.

 

[das]

EDIT: And if Roman and Irish Catholicism get each their own religious center, what about Shiia Islam?

What happened to the shiites in that timeline anyway?

Without the Safavids, they remain a fairly minor group, though ocassionally coming to power here or there, as they were in OTL. Ofcourse, the Druzes might be considered Ismailites, and the Ismailites might be considered Shiites, but that's a different matter and they do have a religious center.

Even if Gallway is the political center, Kildare (Gaelic: Cill-Dara) and Armagh (Gaelic: Ard Mhacha) were always the religious centers, with Kildare being the center of the monasteries, the most important part of the Celtic Rite hierarchy, and Armagh a more ritual center and the center of the bishops (although do note that the Abbess of Kildare was the most powerful pre-Latin figure in Celtic Rite Christianity).

There you go again with no changes happening over time. In a politically-centralized Ireland, chances are that the state will try and get control over the church (and that would probably be succesful, like in the Byzantine Empire), so it is just as possible for the religious center to move to Gallway as the political center. But alright, I suppose it could be put somewhere else.

I'll go with Celtic Rite (Christianity), since technically there's been no split from the mother church in Rome.

Hmm? Yes, there was.

Thanks for the praise.

 

[Thlayli]

Hmm? There was a split from Rome? Por que??

 

[das]

Oui. See the religion discussion in previous thread.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Das, respond to my PM.

 

[das]

Panda, finish the 1914 map. Will respond soon.

 

[Insane_Panda]

It will be done in a few days.

 

[silver 2039]

I'm glad I didn't pick Galicia then. The prospect of a fight to the death from turn one doesn't excite me so much.

It arouses me very much on the other hand....

 

[Oruc]

arouses?...

 

[Kal'thzar]

emu you know better than to ask that question.

Dis, das do either of you badly want the norse empire then ?

 

[das]

No. As I said, I'm not even sure if I will be in this NES.

EDIT: Btw, is your NES dead then?

 

[Kal'thzar]

I've been chasing girls *cough* or rather a girl

I'll get to it at some point.

 

[das]

Goddamnit, are you and Dis in a conspiracy or something?! Stop procrastinating, damnit!

 

[Kal'thzar]

huh, I'd forgotten about dis's Nes, good point.

tsk tsk, well I don't REALLY have anything to do for the next few hours.

 

[Disenfrancised]

i don't remeber asking for the Norse empire? I'll take genoa maybe...

(still on holiday btw)

 

[Swissempire]

I've been chasing girls *cough* or rather a girl

I'll get to it at some point.

*cough*stalker*cough*

 

[Kal'thzar]

tsk, how old are you?