Amending the Election Cycle

[Provolution]

I was making a jest to the alternative anarchy that reigns. If I say Draconian and the rest says Anarchy. The result will be middle ground. Too many voices yell Anarchy.

 

[DaveShack]

Strider jumps to DaveShacks's defense? What will the world come to? IIRC, donsig has made it a point to drag his feet on registration in the past on the same grounds that Strider mentions -- once a DG'er, always a DG'er.

Seriously though, you need to convince about 30 people that we need to make these changes. Do you have a reasonable chance to do that, without choosing someting a little more middle-ground like my proposal?

 

[Provolution]

DS

I endorse your proposal in a sense. But for future reference all elected and appointed officials MUST be registered prior to the 1. in the Month.

I told you, I figured out the loophole for Donsig too. We make this a mid term appointment the 15 of March, and ratify it by the four consuls, of which my vote already support Donsig. So there is no need to make slack adaption laws, but to utilize the built in clause for mid term appointments. Consider VP unfilled to the 15th.
Now, if Donsig fail to post in 24 hours, or probably closer to 20 as I write this, you need to find a new one. I am sorry, but I do not endorse Mickey Mouse solutions, I am too old for that. If someone wants to drag their feet into a high office, they are in my book unfit for the job and should make room for a newcomer or someone else that should be involved in the DG. Sorry to say, I am against veteran deadwood with inherited privileges for traded favors and fellow combat wounds. Cronyism is a pest to be contained. I do not see my proposal as extreme in any sense. If we do not get enough people, we fill in some positions mid term as warranted by the law.
We also need an acceptance timer in the Appointmens thread for the appointment to be valid. My rhetoric is tough, but my legal content is pretty soft.

 

[DaveShack]

I told you, I figured out the loophole for Donsig too. We make this a mid term appointment the 15 of March, and ratify it by the four consuls, of which my vote already support Donsig. So there is no need to make slack adaption laws, but to utilize the built in clause for mid term appointments. Consider VP unfilled to the 15th.

Sorry, you lost me there. There is no such thing as a consul vote to ratify an appointment, or at least not that I'm aware of.

Sorry to say, I am against veteran deadwood with inherited privileges for traded favors and fellow combat wounds. Cronyism is a pest to be contained.

You really shouldn't try to accuse me of cronyism. Not a good idea given my record of endorsing and supporting new citizens for office as soon as they show a willingness to take responsibility. We have a good mix of veterans and relative newcomers. Don't forget that I too am a newcomer compared to the DG1 and DG2 folk who still think of those as the glory years.

Also you may remember that Donsig and I have had our monumental battles in the past, it's not like I'm picking someone who is going to agree with everything I do. In fact, part of the reason I selected Donsig is his crusade against the chat -- his point of view makes a perfect counterbalance to mine.

 

[Strider]

Sorry, you lost me there. There is no such thing as a consul vote to ratify an appointment, or at least not that I'm aware of.

2. Vice President - Assistant to the President. He/she may take over the President's tasks when the President is absent. If the President should be removed from office for any reason the Vice President will then take the position of President and appoint a Vice President. The Vice President must be approved by a majority of the consuls, if the Vice President is appointed mid-term.

It's there alright.

 

[Provolution]

Yeah, I am amazed that Daveshack has lost control over the works for his lobbyist, draftsman and protege Black Hole, and not read the very constitution he has promoted to become the new DG constitution. The solution is written by the very same people combatting me, ironically enough for presenting their very own creative to such a solution. Since I came up with it, they automatically had to shoot it down, but it was theirs all the way, kind of funny, isn't it.

By the way I am posting the approval poll.

 

[ravensfire]

It's there alright.

Good thing this wasn't a mid-term appointment.

-- Ravensfire

 

[ravensfire]

Yeah, I am amazed that Daveshack has lost control over the works for his lobbyist, draftsman and protege Black Hole

BWWWAAHAAAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!!

-- Ravensfire

 

[Strider]

Good thing this wasn't a mid-term appointment.

Hey, he asked about an appointment in general.

 

[Black_Hole]

Yeah, I am amazed that Daveshack has lost control over the works for his lobbyist, draftsman and protege Black Hole, and not read the very constitution he has promoted to become the new DG constitution. The solution is written by the very same people combatting me, ironically enough for presenting their very own creative to such a solution. Since I came up with it, they automatically had to shoot it down, but it was theirs all the way, kind of funny, isn't it.

By the way I am posting the approval poll.

Its my fault not his....
That was an idea I posted and put in my rough draft, but never took out because of no opposition. And I am pretty shur I am not his protege, he hasnt taught me his hat tricks yet
But this only applies to the Vice President, no one else...
However if Ashburnham as with rf and I, then donsig must be reappointed, thsu constituting a mid term appointment.

 

[Strider]

As there doesn't seem to be much dissent, I'm submitting this to the Judiciary for review.

 

[blackheart]

I dissent! Hiss! Hiss! Boo!

But ignore me and submit it

 

[DaveShack]

Please post your proposed change in the form of a mock poll and leave that open for citizen comment for 24 hours. If there is no comment, then it is ready to submit to the judicary for review.

 

[mad-bax]

All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise stated. All debates will take place within the nomination thread, and will continue through the end of the election cycle. Any citizen may post questions for the candidates to answer. Candidates may answer or not answer as they wish. A nomination is not considered Accepted until the candidate makes an explicit post. All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise stated.

This is a typo I guess.

 

[Strider]

All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise stated. All debates will take place within the nomination thread, and will continue through the end of the election cycle. Any citizen may post questions for the candidates to answer. Candidates may answer or not answer as they wish. A nomination is not considered Accepted until the candidate makes an explicit post. All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise stated.

This is a typo I guess.

Yeah, a result of copying and pasting, and not deleting the entire effected area. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[ravensfire]

Do you approve of the following change to the Code of Laws?

Current Text:

H.  Elections, Deputies and Vacancies
    1.  Nominations and Debate
        a.  Nominations will be created by the Election Office 7 days 
            prior to the end of the month.  Citizens may nominate 
            themself or another citizen in this thread.  Citizens may 
            also post pre-nominations in the Election Office thread if 
            they will not be present during the nomination period.  
            This nomination thread should contain a description of the 
            office.
        b.  All debates will be within the nomination thread, and will
            continue through the end of the election cycle.  Any citizen 
            may post questions for the candidates to answer.  Candidates 
            may answer or not answer as they wish.
        c.  A nomination is not considered Accepted until the candidate 
            makes an explicit post.  All self-nominations are considered 
            Accepted unless otherwise stated.
            
    2.  Election Polls
        a.  Election polls will be created by the Election Office 3 
            days after the Nomination threads are created.  These polls 
            will contain the names of all Accepted candidates for the 
            office, a description of the office, a link to the 
            nomination thread, be set to run for 3 days and be marked 
            private.
        b.  Should a citizen Accept multiple nominations, and does not
            explicitly clarify which office they wish to run for, the 
            Election Office will use the first office they Accepted.
        c.  The citizen with the most votes at the close of the poll 
            is the winner of the election.  Should two or more 
            candidates tie at the end of the election poll with the 
            same number of votes, a runoff election of two days 
            duration will be conducted with the tied candidates only. 
            This process shall continue until one candidate receives 
            the most votes.
            
    3.  General
        a.  The Election Cycle will run from the first nomination thread 
            is opened until the last runoff poll closes.
        b.  All threads and polls should be posted at approximately 00:00 
            GMT on the correct day.

New Text

H.  Elections
    1.  Nominations and Debate
        Nominations will be created by the Election Office 8 days prior
        to end of the month. Citizens may nominate themself or another
        citizen in this thread. Citizens may also post pre-nominations 
        in the Election Office thread if they will not be present 
        during the nomination period. This nomination thread should 
        contain a description of the office. A nomination is not 
        considered Accepted until the candidate makes an explicit post.
        All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise 
        stated.  All debates will take place within the nomination 
        thread, and will continue through the end of the election cycle. 
        Any citizen may post questions for the candidates to answer. 
        Candidates may answer or not answer as they wish.

   2.  Election Polls
       Election polls will be created by the Election Office 4 days
       before the end of the month. These polls will contain the names
       of all Accepted candidates for the office, a description of the
       office, a link to the nomination thread, be set to run for 3 days
       and be marked private. Should a citizen Accept multiple
       nominations, and does not explicitly clarify which office they
       wish to run for, the Election Office will use the first office
       they Accepted. The citizen with the most votes at the close of
       the poll is the winner of the election. Should two or more
       candidates tie at the end of the election poll with the same
       number of votes, a runoff election of two days duration will be
       conducted with the tied candidates only. This process shall
       continue until one candidate receives the most votes.

   3.  General
       The Election Cycle will run from the first nomination thread is
       opened until the last runoff poll closes. All threads and polls
       should be posted at before 00:00 GMT on the correct day.

Yes
No
Abstain

This poll will run for 4 days.

 

[Strider]

I would have taken care of the proposed poll.

 

[ravensfire]

Got tired of waiting, so put it up. I won't review it until the 24 window is done, and want to clean up the docket. Sorry if it bothered you.

-- Ravensfire