An alternative model for the Middle East: Dubai

Democracy?

  • Democracy is always best, even if the people dont realise it

    Votes: 21 41.2%
  • Democracy works for the West, but different societies have different ideas

    Votes: 15 29.4%
  • Democracy is overrated. It creates as many problems as it solves

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • All people everywhere prefer peace and prosperity over freedom

    Votes: 10 19.6%

  • Total voters
    51

Bozo Erectus

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As part of a series about young people in the Middle East, the BBC News website reports on views about democratic reform in a city where change does not seem high on the agenda.

"We live in the best democracy ever," says Samir Marzouqi, 19, who lives in a country where citizens never vote.

As a national of the United Arab Emirates, he lives in what is now the only country in the Gulf which has no elected bodies. Political parties are banned.

But he points out that the sheikhs who rule the UAE attend regular open meetings where citizens can air concerns.

And, as many of his peers stress, with free health care and education, a booming economy and political stability, few want to complain anyway.

'Co-operative'

While the US is ratcheting up pressure for reform in the region, it seems democracy is not a high priority for Dubai's young people, despite the fact that they are among the Middle East's best-educated and most-travelled.

"Everybody is happy, everything is going smoothly, and I don't think we should jeopardise that to be a democratic country," says UAE national Sharifa Maawali, 27.

Ohood Saif Ichlah, 19, also a UAE national, grew up in the UK. While she says "there's a lot to be said for democracy," she sees Western politicians' constant need to consider whether decisions will win them votes as a disadvantage.

She thinks the UAE functions well without democracy because the citizens are happy with their rulers: "If they were unsatisfied it would show - it wouldn't be such a co-operative community."

Dubai is held up by many of its residents as a shining example of how an Arab culture can embrace 21st Century globalisation without losing its traditional values.

Moderate Islam

Alcohol is legal for all but UAE nationals, although some locals, even those wearing their distinctive national dress, risk a fine to join the expatriate revellers in the city's bars.

And everyone from Western tourists to visiting Saudis is free to party until the early hours in nightclubs playing everything from R&B to Arabic dance music.

No laws dictate whether UAE women must wear the veil and full-length cloak known as the abaya - although most choose to do so. All religions are permitted, but trying to convert Muslims is banned. The government promotes moderate Islam.

Apart from in Dubai, in the UAE Sharia courts can punish adultery, prostitution, and drug or alcohol abuse with flogging - albeit carefully regulated to avoid serious injury.

A multitude of police officers keep order. Visitors comment on how safe and clean the city feels.

Freedom of speech

Hassan, 25, an Iraqi who lives in Dubai, is one of the few people I meet who supported the US-led war in Iraq: "Only the US could kick out a government like Saddam's," he explains.

But he sees Dubai's system, rather than US-style democracy, as a model for Arab nations.

"I still believe there should be some religious basis - not to the extent of Iran and Saudi Arabia, but maybe like in Dubai where you have the freedom to do what you want but there is a religious flavour to it."

However, the UAE does not have freedom of speech. The media is controlled and the self-censoring papers are very cautious about criticising the government.

Western films are shown, but with the more racy scenes censored. Internet access is via a government ISP which blocks websites deemed unsuitable. These range from pornography to radical Islamic and anti-government sites, and include those suggested by citizens.

Most locals are keen to stress that the media are becoming more adventurous, however. "Now the TV channels report news whether it's positive or negative," says media graduate and UAE national Amna Hammadi, 22.

But not everyone wants a complete free-for-all. "In America you could actually stand out in a square and curse the president - and I don't think that's a good thing," says Sharifa al-Maawali.

Reform calls

Views about democracy change when it comes to other countries in the region, however.

Although the general objections to US meddling mirror those elsewhere in the Arab world, several young people say countries such as Egypt need reform badly.

"They should be - not forced - but threatened at least!" says Maria Hanif Qassimi, 20, another UAE national.

But there are concerns about US expectations about the pace of change. "If they want to change a country, they should go step by step. God made the world in six days, but they want to change everything in one day!" says UAE student Salim Alakraf, 25.

Some in the UAE say that the rulers are preparing the people for democracy, pointing to heavy investment in educating the young, particularly in areas such as media and leadership.

Enthusiastic

And earlier this year a few intellectuals called for elections for members of the UAE's Federal National Council, a body of appointed members that advises the ruling sheikhs but has little power.

Amna Hammadi is one of the few young UAE nationals I interview who are enthusiastic about democracy. She believes it is inevitable.

"Sure, I want our country to be more of a democracy and I guarantee it will happen. It might take a few years, but it will happen, starting from Dubai."

But how close that democracy is to the Western model is another question, as 19-year-old student Bushra Mohammed Roken points out.

"We learn from each other. Maybe the American democracy isn't the final solution - maybe they can improve it, a little from here, a little from there."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4724807.stm

Here we have a peaceful, stable, prosperous and moderate Arab Muslim society that satisfies its people, and yet it isnt even remotely democratic. Why shouldnt the UAE be held up as an example to the Muslim world? Mabye this model would work best in the region. Compared to Iraq, and other Muslim countries, this is a paradise. They dont have democracy, so what, does it really matter as long as the people are content?
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Here we have a peaceful, stable, pr...people are very similar all around the world.
 
No one should thrust a government upon people who don't want it.
 
blackheart said:
No one should thrust a government upon people who don't want it.

Perhaps, but how do you know what the people want? Furthermore, how much does this apply when talking about countries without real freedom of press? Does brain washing someone to thinking you should control him gives you the right to do so?
 
G-Man said:
Perhaps, but how do you know what the people want? Furthermore, how much does this apply when talking about countries without real freedom of press? Does brain washing someone to thinking you should control him gives you the right to do so?

That's a tricky question that fortunately even if I knew the answer to I wouldn't have the ability to act on it :crazyeye:. But in Dubai's case, if the people are educated in western terms (and some in western schools) and they still find their non-democratic government agreeable, there wouldn't be a need for a democratic crusade against their government.
 
I believe democracy is the form of government that is best able to hear the voice of the people, even though everyone is still not equally represented. But if the people are happy with the ruling party then it really doesn't matter what form of government they are ruled by.
 
I agree with G-Man's points. Democracy not only gives legitmacy but also a very important safety mechanism, one that allows bad leaders to be kicked out.

I also strongly reject the notion that democracy is only good for some cultures. 60 years ago many people said that the germans were all a bunch of racist militaristic folks who love thier despots and are unfit for democracy. Look at Germany now.
 
blackheart said:
That's a tricky question that fortunately even if I knew the answer to I wouldn't have the ability to act on it :crazyeye:. But in Dubai's case, if the people are educated in western terms (and some in western schools) and they still find their non-democratic government agreeable, there wouldn't be a need for a democratic crusade against their government.

I'm not saying that the UAE should be attacked and forced to change their system, and I don't know of anyone trying to do so. However, I must disagree with you about the ability of Dubai's citizens to make a free decision regarding their goverment, as well as the fact that they support it. Dubai's education, while being on a high level in technical terrms, is not the free education that you'd get in a western country. They don't have teachers who teach free thought and criticism, and they don't study about alternatives to their current goverment. As to the people's opinion, without freedom of press and expression, and certainly without free elections, I'd say no one knows what they really want.
 
And what would they be without oil? Repressed and poor.

The UAE is no miracle.
 
Maybe Democracy sounds good because you haven't lived in a good dictatorship yet.
 
stratego said:
Maybe Democracy sounds good because you haven't lived in a good dictatorship yet.

Maybe a dictatorship sounds good because you haven't lived in a bad one yet.
 
I'm torn. Luiz is right in that democracy provides an important safety for any government, but democracy can be a bad thing as well as good, if the people will a racist, despotic leadership.
 
G-Man said:
However, I must disagree with you about the ability of Dubai's citizens to make a free decision regarding their goverment, as well as the fact that they support it. Dubai's education, while being on a high level in technical terrms, is not the free education that you'd get in a western country. They don't have teachers who teach free thought and criticism, and they don't study about alternatives to their current goverment. As to the people's opinion, without freedom of press and expression, and certainly without free elections, I'd say no one knows what they really want.

Read the article again. "While the US is ratcheting up pressure for reform in the region, it seems democracy is not a high priority for Dubai's young people, despite the fact that they are among the Middle East's best-educated and most-travelled."

This would suggest that they have seen what other countries are like. They aren't the same people who live in censored and restrictive North Korea or Iran.
 
blackheart said:
Read the article again. "While the US is ratcheting up pressure for reform in the region, it seems democracy is not a high priority for Dubai's young people, despite the fact that they are among the Middle East's best-educated and most-travelled."

This would suggest that they have seen what other countries are like. They aren't the same people who live in censored and restrictive North Korea or Iran.

As I said, they have a good education system, but it's no one which would teach them about oppositions to their goverment. Nor would their press. True, they're not as oppressive as North Korea, but they're still a dictatorship, and the goverment still maintains control over the education and the media. No teacher in the UAE would dare suggest a regime change or would encourage his students to think about alternative forms of goverment.
 
G-Man said:
As I said, they have a good education system, but it's no one which would teach them about oppositions to their goverment. Nor would their press. True, they're not as oppressive as North Korea, but they're still a dictatorship, and the goverment still maintains control over the education and the media. No teacher in the UAE would dare suggest a regime change or would encourage his students to think about alternative forms of goverment.

"Some in the UAE say that the rulers are preparing the people for democracy, pointing to heavy investment in educating the young, particularly in areas such as media and leadership."

and again

"despite the fact that they are among the Middle East's best-educated and most-travelled"

I would like to emphasize the most-travelled part. This would suggest that they perhaps study abroad or at least visit other countries. I would quote the entire article, but it takes up too much room. Re-read it, the comments in it point out that the people there aren't ignorant or oblivious to how other countries are ran, with examples said about Egypt, America, and Iraq. So it would seem that they do know (and perhaps taught) how other governments work.
 
I believe also that a peoples level of faith in a government can be determined by the length of time they have lived under its leadership, like Luiz said about Germany. But if the politician is a good liar and the people are desparate enough they will follow anyone.
 
democracies are seriously overrated. monarchies only work well, however, when the monarch isn't a scumbag.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4724807.stm

Here we have a peaceful, stable, prosperous and moderate Arab Muslim society that satisfies its people, and yet it isnt even remotely democratic. Why shouldnt the UAE be held up as an example to the Muslim world? Mabye this model would work best in the region. Compared to Iraq, and other Muslim countries, this is a paradise. They dont have democracy, so what, does it really matter as long as the people are content?

It is peaceful, stable and prosperous just because they have plenty of oil. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have enough money to experiment, it is possible to create this kind of "utopia". After their oil is exhausted, the current system will collapse very quickly.
 
If the population of a country is content, then leave them alone. There's no reason to force our view of "best government" on them.
 
As regards the poll, I can't choose one option:

"Democracy is always best, even if the people dont realise it"

-> No. Democracy is just a cover, something to make the people feel they have the power. In fact, they don't. The one good thing about todays democracy is, that it is closely connected with human and citizen rights, freedom and a legally consistent state.

"Democracy works for the West, but different societies have different ideas"

-> No. Freedom is the best. Democracy is just a very flawed form of government, which is from the reason I've described the only really working government today, at least in Europe, US, Latin America and few other countries.

"Democracy is overrated. It creates as many problems as it solves"

-> I agree.

"All people everywhere prefer peace and prosperity over freedom"

-> That's also true, even in democracies.
 
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