@ sun tzu wu:
thanks for your tips, i will look into the kremlin path a bit deeper. have to admit i never used the kremlin for beefed whips before...
@ gkey:
concerning your dotmap:
settling on the sugar 3e of capital isnt a good move, because it´s the only sugar not under jungle. better to settle on the sugger 3 from the one you mentioned (or any other sugar under jungle, you might find more of them if exploring a bit more), because you also get +1 food AND you can farm the sugar you mentioned for a city with 5+ food (same as a riverside rice). also, you should consider the borderpops of your capital for any settling decisions, because the sugar you mentioned will become your territory soon anyways, so you can also settle a city to have it in the outer bfc and still working it immediately (to get other stuff into the inner bfc, like hills or other strat. ressources)
settling on the ph 1 w of northern gold gives you an extra hammer. but a city there will never have food, because the capital will always need max. food to keep growing and working the 2 gold (so you cant really share the fps on a longterm basis). same goes for the cows, the second helper city (the one you marked costal) will need them.
if you settle on the jungle-sugar 41 from southern gold, you have the same effect:
you can work one gold in the beginning (because you dont have any other plots to work). this allows the capital to grow faster with only 1 gold AND the city has an extra food on it´s city plot (same effect as ph, but better longterm because more food). this city will also have bananas for later, so it will be a really strong city with +6 food (same as wet corn).
the 3rd city you have marked costal. i was thinking about the same spot. because it will be a decent/great costal city for later. but then i decided to place it 2 from your maker, making it still a good longterm city with only 2 costal tiles (one of which can be worked by the first helper city even) BUT having a much higher shorterm value:
placing it 2 from your marker allows this city to share the second gold from the capital, giving the capital the possibility to really grow fast with both golds worked from helper cities. and since early in the game you will reasearch at 100% or at 0% switching both gold to both helper cities each time you have research at 0% will result exactly in the same ammount of gold you accumulate (no money multipliers) but your capital will grow really, really fast. and when you switch research back to 100% both gold go back to capital, capital gets 75% bonus on research (academy+library) AND is much bigger and therefore can work more cottages (and generate even more research) as if you would have grown slowly working one or even both gold.
-> hope this helps, that was my thinking about the dotmap and the basis for my decision making (no idea if it is right or ideal, or even wrong, but at least i was thinking somthing when settling, and executing some sort of plan, no
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thanks for your tips, i will look into the kremlin path a bit deeper. have to admit i never used the kremlin for beefed whips before...
@ gkey:
concerning your dotmap:
settling on the sugar 3e of capital isnt a good move, because it´s the only sugar not under jungle. better to settle on the sugger 3 from the one you mentioned (or any other sugar under jungle, you might find more of them if exploring a bit more), because you also get +1 food AND you can farm the sugar you mentioned for a city with 5+ food (same as a riverside rice). also, you should consider the borderpops of your capital for any settling decisions, because the sugar you mentioned will become your territory soon anyways, so you can also settle a city to have it in the outer bfc and still working it immediately (to get other stuff into the inner bfc, like hills or other strat. ressources)
settling on the ph 1 w of northern gold gives you an extra hammer. but a city there will never have food, because the capital will always need max. food to keep growing and working the 2 gold (so you cant really share the fps on a longterm basis). same goes for the cows, the second helper city (the one you marked costal) will need them.
if you settle on the jungle-sugar 41 from southern gold, you have the same effect:
you can work one gold in the beginning (because you dont have any other plots to work). this allows the capital to grow faster with only 1 gold AND the city has an extra food on it´s city plot (same effect as ph, but better longterm because more food). this city will also have bananas for later, so it will be a really strong city with +6 food (same as wet corn).
the 3rd city you have marked costal. i was thinking about the same spot. because it will be a decent/great costal city for later. but then i decided to place it 2 from your maker, making it still a good longterm city with only 2 costal tiles (one of which can be worked by the first helper city even) BUT having a much higher shorterm value:
placing it 2 from your marker allows this city to share the second gold from the capital, giving the capital the possibility to really grow fast with both golds worked from helper cities. and since early in the game you will reasearch at 100% or at 0% switching both gold to both helper cities each time you have research at 0% will result exactly in the same ammount of gold you accumulate (no money multipliers) but your capital will grow really, really fast. and when you switch research back to 100% both gold go back to capital, capital gets 75% bonus on research (academy+library) AND is much bigger and therefore can work more cottages (and generate even more research) as if you would have grown slowly working one or even both gold.
-> hope this helps, that was my thinking about the dotmap and the basis for my decision making (no idea if it is right or ideal, or even wrong, but at least i was thinking somthing when settling, and executing some sort of plan, no
