I am very into the idea, but I had no idea it was widespread. There is a "Have your say" bit on the BBC news web site titled Are drugs a problem in your area?. I have only read the first page, but almost all the responces are advacating legalisation of drugs. I am very pleased, but I suspect TPTB will not listen, they need the underclass for some reason or another, or perhaps some other orwellian/marxist conspiracy theory.
Are most britains up for ending prohibition of drug?
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I'm for it, but I think there needs to be strict quality guidelines set up by the government and the standard safety warnings etc. They also need to be able to repeal any such legalisation should everything go pear shaped.
I'm from America but I have been fully supportive of the idea of legalizing all of the "recreational" drugs for quite some time. Private industry could sell the stuff so far below the cost of what the criminals do, they would all be out of business. Doing so would probably result in a significant drop in the rate of violent crime.
If someone wants cocaine or marijuana: let them have it. It's really not going not going to have any more of an ancillary effect on society than alcohol and tobacco addiction.
If someone wants cocaine or marijuana: let them have it. It's really not going not going to have any more of an ancillary effect on society than alcohol and tobacco addiction.
nonconformist
Miserable
I'm all for it, minus possibly heroin.
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
I want marajuana legalised. Mushrooms should be legal (again) as well. And maybe exctasty..not sure of this...need to see more reseacrh. Heroin should stay illegal but need a more liberal approach to rehab. Cyrstal Meth and stuff like that should stay illegal. Cocaine I lean towards illegal....just because it is addictive from what i've seen and people I know who take it get more arrogant.
So yeah Mushrooms and Marajuana should be legalsied in my opinion
Mainly because a)I think doing them is the same as drinking alcohol and b)TAX REVENUE!
It should be noted that Davo only likes the Marajuana
So yeah Mushrooms and Marajuana should be legalsied in my opinion
Mainly because a)I think doing them is the same as drinking alcohol and b)TAX REVENUE!It should be noted that Davo only likes the Marajuana
Unless and until I find research showing that certain drugs lead to violence irrespective of the fact that they are illegal and expensive, I support legalisation of all drugs, with strict labelling requirements. You want to kill yourself, go ahead.
Xanikk999
History junkie
As long as they have strict guidelines and dont legalize certain drugs like crack and heroin.
CruddyLeper
Unworshipped Deity
I think the "naturals" should be legalised (coca leaves, mary jane, mushrooms etc) and the processed variety remain heavily illegal.
Seems daft to prosecute natural plants. It's like calling God a criminal.
Seems daft to prosecute natural plants. It's like calling God a criminal.
Oruc
Reactionary
what a bunch of crap
tomsnowman123
Simple Liver
Just decriminalize the possesion of drugs. Cuts down on gangs and gang violence because of trying to obtain drugs. It's human right to use drugs, especially if they're actual plants from this planet. That's basically censoring nature, if you restrict them, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Silent Spectre
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Legalise them. Tax them. Fund rehab with tax money.
I am glad so many people are inot ending the prohibition. A couple of little points;
I belive the more dangerous drugs should be legalised. You are not going to stop many burglaries by making marijuana legal, but if heroin is so cheap that you do not need to steal to get it I belive you would stop 98% of burglaries.
What do you all think about the chances of it happening? I have always thought it was very unlikely, because so many people just think drugs are bad, mkay, so we must make them illegal. Both her and the BBC site seem to have a majority for legalisation, but I guess it is a pretty skewed sample.
I belive the more dangerous drugs should be legalised. You are not going to stop many burglaries by making marijuana legal, but if heroin is so cheap that you do not need to steal to get it I belive you would stop 98% of burglaries.
What do you all think about the chances of it happening? I have always thought it was very unlikely, because so many people just think drugs are bad, mkay, so we must make them illegal. Both her and the BBC site seem to have a majority for legalisation, but I guess it is a pretty skewed sample.
Mise
isle of lucy
I'm not too fussed either way, unless legalisation adversely affects my life...
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
If drugs are made cheaper by legislation, would criminals stop stealing, or would they simply continue to steal and get more? People steal to obtain legal goods already. Why would legalising drugs stop them?Brian_B said:
That being said, I visited a jail as part of my university degree and the warden basically said that if 'alcohol' is to be included as a drug, only drug users are ever locked up. The prison was Walton and there are obviously other jails housing other criminals but the percentage of 'drug based' crime is huge.
AL_DA_GREAT
amour absinthe révolution
I guess it is good. You can't stop the drug addicts from taking dope but you can limit the damage.
I cannot pretend to be any sort of expert, but the way I belive it works is;PrinceOfLeigh said:
If you are addicted to heroin you "need" 10 GBP per day minimum.
Many heroin addicts do not have jobs.
If you need 10 GBP and you do not have it, there are few ways to get it.
One way is to break into someones house, steal there DVDs, give the DVDs to the dealer and get your fix. I belive this is the cause of over 90% of burglaries.
If heroin was available at market rates (ie. not much more than the cost of production) it would be more like 1p than 10 GBP, so people would not have to steal to get 1p.
Noone wants to break into someone house for 1 or 2 days supply. They are "forced" to by artifically inflated cost of the product. Remove that artificial inflation and you remove the reason to steal. I may hope that removal of the illigality of being a heroin addict MAY allow them to become productive members of society.
Samson said:
I do understand that you quoted forced, but I still detest that wording. Nobody is forcing them to break the law. They are doing it of their own accord to support a habit that they knew was illegal when they started taking the drugs. Even if they are addicted now, they weren't the first time they willingly broke the law to take it.
EDIT: No, I'm not British, and you all are obviously free to do whatever you want in your own country. I personally think it would be a mistake, but go for it if you want.
I did quote forced and need. I thought about adding a proviso, but I did not bother. I had better add it now.VRWCAgent said:
Of course people are not forced to take heroin, nor do they need it to live. However, when faced with the option of cold turkey or getting the money, I am sure it feels very much like they are forced. It is the prohibition that generates this massive demand for money, so I think I am somewhat correct to use these terms.
It the context of the question (People steal to obtain legal goods already. Why would legalising drugs stop them?) the morallity is not really an issue, it is about how to deal with the situation we are faced with. However, as to the fact that at some point in the past these people choose to do something illegal, I do not achnoledge the right of someone else to tell me what to do with my body, so the fact that there exists an unjust law has no effect on the morallity of my decision to take something.
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
Do you honestly believe that the cost will be reduced as drastically? I doubt it to be honest. People have already argued for taxing such drugs which is obviously going to bump the price up.Samson said:
Secondly, an important point to review is how the legalisation of certain drugs affects international politics. For some drugs the only sources are countries which are less than stable (Afghanistan for one). I'm not convinced that the Government will be willing to pump even more money over there by legalising all drugs.
