Are we at CFC Intellectuals?

[Fifty]

Sidhe, if it helps your obviously fragile self-image to define intellectual as anybody who reads books occasionally and who can kinda-sorta write in their native language, then be my guest. I, however, have a more strict definition that at least requires above-average intelligence and a good amount of knowledge of a given field, as well as the ability to articulate one-self within the language of that field. It's just a simple fact that I haven't seen anything from you that strikes me as intellectual (and neither has anybody else, apparently). I don't mean that as a flame or a troll, its just a personal opinion based on my experience with your postings. I mean I wouldn't even consider you to be in the top 50% on OT.

I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings or whatever, but its just my opinion, and one that I believe to be shared by others (e.g. gogf and mobboss).

But why care what I think? You can tell yourself that you're this century's Bertrand Russell for all I care I like to imagine that I'm an NBA Player sometimes, imagination is fun and helps self-esteem

 

[brennan]

Well, no offense intended, but I would describe you as average in terms of CFC members. In fact, I think very few people would rise above that characterization for me.

I suspect 'average for CFC members' is going to be well above a Joe Bloggs average.

 

[Sidhe]

Well, no offense intended, but I would describe you as average in terms of CFC members. In fact, I think very few people would rise above that characterization for me.

I'll take that with grace since as far as I know you have no dislike towards me, but then average is in the eye of the beholder. Short of putting up a post about how average I am which is against forum rules, and the fact that I don't really care anyway what people think, apart from MB and fifty as I can see some serious bias in their opinions, well ok let's be honest I don't care what they think I'm merely challenging the context of what they think, so if I'm average to you or the whole of CFC then who gives a damn really, will it effect my life one iota no, but when someone starts to challenge mys assertion based on faulty definitions, I have every right to call logical fallacy. The average thing is bizarre as it's obvious I meant average in terms of intelectual, in that I am most distinctly average because I fit the definition to a glove, pardon me for assuming we were talking about anything else?

Sidhe, if it helps your obviously fragile self-image to define intellectual as anybody who reads books occasionally and who can kinda-sorta write in their native language, then be my guest. I, however, have a more strict definition that at least requires above-average intelligence and a good amount of knowledge of a given field, as well as the ability to articulate one-self within the language of that field. It's just a simple fact that I haven't seen anything from you that strikes me as intellectual (and neither has anybody else, apparently). I don't mean that as a flame or a troll, its just a personal opinion based on my experience with your postings. I mean I wouldn't even consider you to be in the top 50% on OT.

I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings or whatever, but its just my opinion, and one that I believe to be shared by others (e.g. gogf and mobboss).

But why care what I think? You can tell yourself that you're this century's Bertrand Russell for all I care I like to imagine that I'm an NBA Player sometimes, imagination is fun and helps self-esteem

Fifty give it up your just talking even more nonsense, my self image is not what is at issue yours is, you made that comment from not even knowing the meaning of the word, this annoyed me as are many people on CFC I would define as intelectual, my self image has nothing to do with it, now will you kindly stop digging a bigger hole for yourself. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks, at the end of the day it matters not, but when someone who patently has no clue what intelectual means accuses me of not being one despite me fitting every single defined element of point 7, is talking out of his hat, you can make up whatever you like about my insecurities but again they merely reflect your own, as do most every post you make in a mocking fashion, your mockery is a defense mechanism this is plane to see, and every time you shout me down for imagined slight that didn't exist, I see it more and more clearly.

You of anyone should know the improtance of definition of meaning in your argument, when you start making it up as you go along you lose any consistency your point might of had, but then you did that 5 pages ago and are still doing it.

7. a person who places a high value on or pursues things of interest to the intellect or the more complex forms and fields of knowledge, as aesthetic or philosophical matters, esp. on an abstract and general level.

Fifty do you honestly think I give a damn what you or any of your sycophantic pals think of me in any sense of the word care, what I do care about is you labelling this forum in any way as not intelectual there you are being an asshat. Because there are plenty here, you just don't accept reality or definitions apparently.

 

[.Shane.]

So do you think CFC'ers are intellectuals, State your reasons.

Good god, NO!

This thread is an obvious satire, or so I hope.

 

[MobBoss]

yes but since your not exactly good at winning arguments that makes you distinctly average also, although you claim you are, if we're being honest your perhaps one of the worst resorters to logical fallacy I've ever seen, you can barely go a page without sying somthing that's alogical fallacy, and then you never answer questions that disprove your case, so in all honesty if I'm average your less than average at least IMO, do you think there's any boas in what I say?

Unlike you, I have not made any claim to superiority. I let my own words and debate justify others opinion of me. And from the PMs I get, I tend to think I more than hold my own in most arguements.

Tell me....does it do your ego good to label me less than average if you are average?

Because I think that is entirely the issue here.

Apparently you consider CFC OT some kind of popularity contest. Well, I am not here to be liked...I am here to express my opinion. I do that very well, and I communicate it neatly and concisely.

As for a comparison between you and I, I could care less. Again, you speak from emotion as evidenced in the deteriation of your writing ability. I dont. And I am more than willing to bet that the general concensus from CFC OT would not agree in your assessment that I am somehow 'below average'.

I wualify in every category, just say OK I'm wrong and we'll leave it at that and then we can stop resorting to making biased judegments about each other to prove our intelectual averageness, again show me where in the last wekk I've resorted to emotion,

You are resorting to it right now at this very moment as evidenced in your writing style going into the toilet as it always does when you get upset.

not that that isn't a valid means of debate as you should well know, it may be somewhat of a logical fallacy, but it certainly is a strong means to sway opinion? Cmon show me where I've been illogical or particularly resorted to emotion to prove a point this week?

Nuff said.

 

[Fifty]

This thread is an obvious satire, or so I hope.

I'm afraid it isn't.

Sidhe is honestly spending pages trying to convince us that he's an intellectual.

 

[.Shane.]

Sidhe is honestly spending pages trying to convince us that he's an intellectual.

OMG! I want to be an e-intellectual as well!! Is then when I brag about my IQ?

 

[MobBoss]

OMG! I want to be an e-intellectual as well!! Is then when I brag about my IQ?

You cant unless its over 140. It is over 140 isnt it?

 

[Sidhe]

I'm afraid it isn't.

Sidhe is honestly spending pages trying to convince us that he's an intellectual.

Because I am?

I'm studying for a physics degree, I read about history and culture, I like to discuss philosophy, what about that makes me not, just because you and all your foolish friends decide to rewrite the definition means nothing to me. I place high value on intelectual pursuits and I like to learn about new things?

OMG! I want to be an e-intellectual as well!! Is then when I brag about my IQ?

Look I didn't want to get personal but it seemed to me people were making out I was stupid and I'm not, as I said before a meaningless fantasy test that's only of merit to morons and mensa is not anything to brag about, that is the point.

 

[.Shane.]

You cant unless its over 140. It is over 140 isnt it?

Um... yes! Yes it is! OMG, I just checked with a scientist and he's confirmed my IQ is 168. And, you know this is true because I'm posting it on the internet!

In fact, my mind is so powerful that just be thinking of it in my head a MENSA membership card appeared in my hand.

 

[MobBoss]

Fifty give it up your just talking even more nonsense, my self image is not what is at issue yours is, you made that comment from not even knowing the meaning of the word, this annoyed me as most people on CFC I would define as intelectual, my self image has nothing to do with it, now will you kindly stop digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Speaking of logical fallacy......I call your attention to the bold part above. To date, I only see you annoyed with fiftys post. Exactly where is the annoyance of most of the intellectuals on CFC in this thread? Because I just dont see the outrage.

I don't care what you or anyone else thinks

Well, you sure are using up a lot of bandwith in expressing how you dont care what we think.

at the end of the day it matters not, but when someone who patently has no clue what intelectual means accuses me of not being one despite me fitting every single defined element of point 7, is talking out of his hat, you can make up whatever you like about my insecurities but again they merely reflect your own, as do most every post you make in a mocking fashion, your mockery is a defense mechanism this is plane to see, and every time you shout me down for imagined slight that didn't exist, I see it more and more clearly.

Eh? You really, and I mean really, think you fit every single point in that definition? And that you see it more clearly because we dont agree with you?

Ok. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.

Fifty do you honestly think I give a damn what you or any of your sycophantic pals think of me in any sense of the word care, what I do care about is you labelling this forum in any way as not intelectual there you are being an asshat.

Do intellectuals call people names? Do you still think you are debating without emotion?

 

[Old Spice]

The one thing I picked out of the wiki was that reason is the only thing used to attain a intellectual status, so No I don't think that many at CFC are intellectuals as many use other tools then reason. If being adapt at communication means that I must produce near prefect writing then I will never be a Intellectual.

 

[MobBoss]

Look I didn't want to get personal but it seemed to me people were making out I was stupid and I'm not, as I said before a meaningless fantasy test that's only of merit to morons and mensa is not anything to brag about, that is the point.

No one in this entire thread ever alluded to you as stupid. Ever. You are letting your own insecurity run wild.

 

[Atlas14]

So is there even a point to having a dictionary if people are going to conveniently ignore or misuse definitions to benefit their own view? Sidhe clearly fits one of the definitions of an intellectual. If we want to change the thread topic to who at CFC is a genius, then fine, but he does have a valid point.

 

[Sidhe]

Speaking of logical fallacy......I call your attention to the bold part above. To date, I only see you annoyed with fiftys post. Exactly where is the annoyance of most of the intellectuals on CFC in this thread? Because I just dont see the outrage.



Well, you sure are using up a lot of bandwith in expressing how you dont care what we think.



Eh? You really, and I mean really, think you fit every single point in that definition? And that you see it more clearly because we dont agree with you?

Ok. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.



Do intellectuals call people names? Do you still think you are debating without emotion?

Again where don't I fit any of the points? cmon let's see you back it up?

I'm asking why I don't fit the dictionary definition your telling me I care about x? And constantly redefining what you meant, so what do you mean because frankly I don't get it?

Do you think it's possible to debate without emotion, and your the one who's been flinging the most names around as has fifty, if you insult me am I allowed to be offended or is this against forum rules?

 

[.Shane.]

So is there even a point to having a dictionary if people are going to conveniently ignore or misuse definitions to benefit their own view?

Who's dictionary are we using?

 

[Taliesin]

"An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex." --Aldous Huxley
By this admittedly ersatz rubric, not a single man jack of us comes close.

 

[MobBoss]

So is there even a point to having a dictionary if people are going to conveniently ignore or misuse definitions to benefit their own view? Sidhe clearly fits one of the definitions of an intellectual. If we want to change the thread topic to who at CFC is a genius, then fine, but he does have a valid point.

Which one do you think he fits?

 

[Sidhe]

Which one do you think he fits?

The most important one number 7 the definition of a person who is an intellectual and thankyou Atlas at least someones making sense, this is just patently bullying here.

7. a person who places a high value on or pursues things of interest to the intellect or the more complex forms and fields of knowledge, as aesthetic or philosophical matters, esp. on an abstract and general level.

note person the others are defining the characteristics not a person who is an intellectual.

And let's not forget number 3

3. a person having an extraordinarily high intelligence rating on a psychological test, as an IQ above 140.

"An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex." --Aldous Huxley
By this admittedly ersatz rubric, not a single man jack of us comes close.

he's got a point.

 

[Gogf]

So is there even a point to having a dictionary if people are going to conveniently ignore or misuse definitions to benefit their own view?

Dictionaries explain what words mean to those who do not understand. There is no "English/American Academy" that determines what is valid English and what is not. Everything is convention, and usage generally determines meaning.

That doesn't mean that I can just decide what everything means myself, but what is commonly accepted as the meaning of a word, not what the publisher of a certain book decides, is what matters.