Are you Pro-religion or anti-religion ?

[_random_]

With the revised definitions, I suppose you would call me "pro-religion," but equating religion and theism is just kind of stupid.

 

[Defiant47]

Obviously they never paid much attention to the last century where those who were promoted godlessness cause millions of people to be killed due to ideology, even religion has not killed that many people in all the religious wars around.

All cats have whiskers.
Mike has whiskers.
Therefore, Mike is a cat.


Allow me to clarify, in case you don't get it.

All communist dictatorship have brutal killings for the control of power and the forcible establishment of equal classes.
Soviet Russia, a communist dictatorship, was non-religious.
Therefore, all brutal killings were done in the name of and for the sake of non-religion.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I am pro Religon as long as that religion is not Islam. I am a Christian.

.....??????

Seriously, you should get over the anti-Muslim rhetoric. I've managed to figure it out by being on here.

Now, I am a Christian as well, and an Evangelical Christian at that, but seriously, Islam is no worse than any other incorrect religion. A few people have abused it, but then again, Christianity has done the same, we just mostly got over it 500 years ago. But back in the Crusades? Saladin was a more tolerant guy, while the Pope was encouraging executions!

No you're not, and you're going to hell. Sorry.

How do you know if he's genuine or not? Do you know him?

Religion is a scourge on society, an ideology that should be long extinct, so I'm against it.

Yet you still attend a Catholic Church...

God is dead.
-Nietzsche.

Ajidica is dead.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

definitely pro-religion

 

[Formaldehyde]

Obviously they never paid much attention to the last century where those who were promoted godlessness cause millions of people to be killed due to ideology, even religion has not killed that many people in all the religious wars around.

I think you would have a difficult time proving that, even if you use the obviously overinflated estimates of the number of Soviets that Stalin killed in his purges.

For example, the Nazi Eastern Front battles of WWII can be perceived as being a religious war of Christians against the godless Communists. That's 20-25 million Soviets dead in one war, most of them being civilians.

In many other cases, those who "promoted godlessness" were fighting those who were religious and were motivated by their religious beliefs, so they too can be characterized as being "religious wars".

And not all of the Soviets were "godless".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union

According to both Soviet and Western sources, in the late 1980s the Russian Orthodox Church had over 50 million believers...

The majority of the 5.5 million Roman Catholics in the Soviet Union lived in the Lithuanian, Belarusian, and Latvian republics, with a sprinkling in the Moldavian, Ukrainian, and Russian republics.

By 1950, there were an estimated 2,000,000 Baptists in the Soviet Union, with the largest proportion in Ukraine.[9]

 

[GhostWriter16]

The Nazis weren't real Christians, and the war had to do with power, not religion.

 

[Tee Kay]

The Nazis weren't real Christians, and the war had to do with power, not religion.

The Nazis did use Christian imagery and elements in their propaganda. Point is, even if the people committing the war aren't religious, they can nevertheless use religion as a weapon to wage the war.

 

[Communisto]

It's a pox

 

[Dachs]

For the purposes of the Pole, I support Orthodachsy.

Ajidica is dead.

Obviously not, otherwise, he couldn't post.

Or are you making veiled threats?

 

[Formaldehyde]

The Nazis weren't real Christians, and the war had to do with power, not religion.

is that right?

 

[GenMarshall]

Somehow, I feel that this is a loaded term since I see it as asking if you are eather support religion or in support in eradicating religion all together.

 

[GhostWriter16]

@Form- First of all, Jesus was Jewish, therefore the Nazis were in favor of his death, therefore, their worship of him was a contradiction, therefore, they claimed to worship him for propaganda purposes, therefore they didn't really worship him, therefore they weren't genuine Christians.

 

[Communisto]

Hitler is actually on record stating his belief in how unfortunate it was that Islam wasn't the religion of the master race. He thought it lent itself to violence and strength much more than christianity, which he considered a religion of weakness. Dom's right, the christian angle of the Reich was purely propaganda mostly aimed at the soviets. Their fascination with nordic paganism was much more earnest.

 

[useless]

Hitler was catholic so therefore...

 

[Dachs]

@Form- First of all, Jesus was Jewish, therefore the Nazis were in favor of his death, therefore, their worship of him was a contradiction, therefore, they claimed to worship him for propaganda purposes, therefore they didn't really worship him, therefore they weren't genuine Christians.

Nobody (rather, nobody worth talking to) is arguing that the Nazis were Christians. The argument is that since the language and symbology of Christianity were deployed in support of evil, religion is bad. Or something.

That's also a nonsensical argument, because you can deploy any ideology, religion, or concept you like in support of things that are prima facie evil, but whatever. One might as well indict the concept of airplanes because their use as propaganda and symbols was so integral to the technophilic fascists of the 1930s.

 

[warpus]

Somehow, I feel that this is a loaded term since I see it as asking if you are eather support religion or in support in eradicating religion all together.

It's like asking "Are you pro or anti eating?". You say you're pro, the op assumes you support obesity. You say you're opposed, the op assumes you get off on people starving to death.

 

[warpus]

By the way, most Nazis were Christian.. not like that has anything to do with anything else..

 

[Zack]

Neither, but this question is much too vague.

I am pro Religon as long as that religion is not Islam. I am a Christian.

Do you realize how similar Islam and Christianity are?

Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet; by denouncing Islam, you are therefore saying that you do not believe Jesus was a prophet. Islam worships the same Abrahamic god as Christianity; are you denouncing God?

Etc.

 

[Dachs]

By the way, most Nazis were Christian.. not like that has anything to do with anything else..

Yes, and most Nazis were German, too. Therefore, Deutschtum is something to be looked down upon, and it is perfectly acceptable to be anti-German as it is to be anti-Christian.

 

[Karalysia]

Bah everyone knows that Hitler was a socialist. It was the National-Socialist party after all.