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As an unabashed fan of American Minimalism, it's encouraging to see Europeans like Lavinia Meijer take up the new form. Just recently, Lavinia's "Metamorphosis / The Hours" (Philip Glass) CD was awarded Gold Record status for classical music in the Netherlands by The Dutch Association of Producers and Importers of image- and sound carriers.
 
How significant is Southeast Asian studies in the Netherlands? I've been reading a history of the region, and Dutch scholarship being at the forefront has popped up twice. And this within the first 3 chapters.
 
I'm not qualified to give a specified answer, as I'm not a par with current studies in that area. However, Dutch presence in East Asia does originate from the 17th century onward. (For Japan, Dutch knowledge was the only source on Western matters during the time of the shogunate seclusion.)

What I do know from my time at university (at Leiden) is that there were specific disciplines on East Asia. (South East Asian studies is currently a Masters' specialisation, but I'm not familiar with the scholars in this area.) The Royal Netherlands Institute of Southeast Asian and Caribbean Studies (KITLV) is also established here.

The notes from the first 3 chapters of your introduction might be a clue to actual Dutchscholars of Southeast Asian studies. Also, if there's a Bibliography attached, it would be easy to distinguish the number of Dutch authors.
 
An interesting titbit concerning Dutch history: a recent book on the massacre of the De Witt brothers in 1672* (which I learned in school was the 'disaster year') debunks the myth that this was an expression of popular anger against 2 protagonists of the regent class. (A similar book published in 1876 was massacred by orangist critics without much factual arguments.) By thoroughly examining all the evidence the author, Ronald Prud'homme van Reine, establishes several members of the orangist clique at the scene - though not partaking in the actual lynching. Key partakers in the 'people's riot' were thereafter rewarded by William III, who then effectively took control. There's no direct evidence, but the circumstantial evidence is too overwhelming to be coincidental. Naval commander Cornelis Tromp (son of Maarten Harpertsz. Tromp) also was present - i.e. in the neighbourhood of the gruesome crime, but not actually partaking. So, instead of a 'people's riot', it seems it was nothing short of a coup d'état by William III.

*In 1672 the Dutch Republic was attacked by England, France and the bishoprics of Cologne and Munster.
 
Eh, we're turning historical.

How different do Dutchmen think it would've been if, the Netherlands had been assigned to the Austrian Habsburgs in the 16th century when the HRE and Spain's crowns were separated?
 
What do the Dutch think about the situation in Cyprus?
 
Eh, we're turning historical.

How different do Dutchmen think it would've been if, the Netherlands had been assigned to the Austrian Habsburgs in the 16th century when the HRE and Spain's crowns were separated?

I dunno, we might be part of Grossdeutschland now? I suppose that'd be a good thing.
 
What do the Dutch think about the situation in Cyprus?

General ignorance based anger, I suppose, about OUR tax euros being spent to save those garlic eating southerners again.
 
Possibly, since as I understand it that's not quite what has been agreed with Cyprus. But the financial-economic response has not been positive: bank stocks went temporarily up, then down again.

Eh, we're turning historical.

How different do Dutchmen think it would've been if, the Netherlands had been assigned to the Austrian Habsburgs in the 16th century when the HRE and Spain's crowns were separated?

I don't think there's too many Dutch opinions on that... But, being hypothetical, we might have been part of the 30 Years War rather than the 80 Years War.
 
I don't think there's too many Dutch opinions on that... But, being hypothetical, we might have been part of the 30 Years War rather than the 80 Years War.

We were. In some ways, the 80 years' war was as much related to the 30 years' war as the Sino-Japanese War was to WWII.
 
Well, at one time Europe was just a continuum of wars where one belligerent state leaves one war and some of the belligerent states there continue elsewhere…


Oh, are we dutchfires allowed to answer questions? I must have a book on Dutch somewhere.
 
Oh, are we dutchfires allowed to answer questions? I must have a book on Dutch somewhere.

I don't know, are you Dutch? I know I am! :mischief:

Spoiler :
But dutchfires are always free to form a dutchfire association :goodjob:
 
Dutch people are supposed to speak English very well, which I do. Also, they live in rainy places, which, again, I do. They live in floodable places, which, yet again, I do. They also like cheese, which, ever yet again, I do. I'm all set!
 
I think the Netherlands has usually been self-sufficient or net exporting food (wars excluded), nowadays we seem to import grains and soy and export animal products.
 
In the 17th century (and perhaps also the 18th century?) you were importing grain from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and from Russia (and I've read that you imported the amount of food which was enough to feed between 500,000 and 1,000,000 people, depending on year / period). I wonder when that import was stopped (I know that Russia became the main exporter together with the decline of Poland-Lithuania, but I don't know how long was Russia exporting grain to the Low Countries). Surely you later became self-sufficient, together with the development of farming technology and the increase of the number of polders. But when? Hmmm... :confused: Were there many polders already in the 17th century? When did the number of polders start to rapidly grow?

nowadays we seem to import grains and soy and export animal products.

Yes, nowadays the efficiency / productivity of Dutch agriculture (as well as its technological advancement) is perhaps one of the highest in the world.

You was forced to rely on intensive (rather than extensive) agriculture by natural conditions - i.e. not enough land.

But you still import grains nowadays?
 
Well, I think that's because planting cash crops and doing cheese etc. with added value and then buying grain can be more profitable than growing basic foodstuffs yourself. Do you have any stats for that?
 
I think the Netherlands has usually been self-sufficient or net exporting food (wars excluded), nowadays we seem to import grains and soy and export animal products.

Being net exporter does not equal self-sufficiency. In fact, we would have a very limited food staple if we only relied on our home produced foods.

In the 17th century (and perhaps also the 18th century?) you were importing grain from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and from Russia (and I've read that you imported the amount of food which was enough to feed between 500,000 and 1,000,000 people, depending on year / period). I wonder when that import was stopped (I know that Russia became the main exporter together with the decline of Poland-Lithuania, but I don't know how long was Russia exporting grain to the Low Countries). Surely you later became self-sufficient, together with the development of farming technology and the increase of the number of polders. But when? Hmmm... :confused: Were there many polders already in the 17th century? When did the number of polders start to rapidly grow?

I don't know whether we traded that much with Poland-Lithuania or Russia, but we sure as hell traded alot of stuff from the Baltics, particularly from what is today's Estonia and Latvia. Mostly grain and wood, if I'm not mistaken. This Dutch-Baltic trade is almost as old as Dutch statehood, perhaps even older.
 
Well, if you count the old Frisians as 'Dutch' then there was a lot of trade in Viking times with trade routes spanning from Greenland to Crimea and Constantinople, but I think that's pushign it a bit too far.
 
How the Dutch lost their colonies in Mainland America?
 
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