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Or, you won't. It happens; there is a lot more to life than all that if it comes to that.
And I dont want that reality that "I won't" to happen. The idea of dying alone is not for me.
 
And I dont want that reality that "I won't" to happen. The idea of dying alone is not for me.

Yet it happens, to some people. Well "dying alone" is not the same thing - there are still lots of people in this world, friends, family, all that.
 
Listen, CG, not every guy is destined to be one of those guys on the cover of a magazine. You will find the right person someday, just don't feel down so much, since girls can tell such things (They're evil).


Your 12 what your mom tells you doesn't count knowing about women... unfortunately that joke would be so much better if what you said wasn't the truth.
 
Moving on,

How much importance do women place on Self-Confidence in other men?
 
I think I should just shut up and give up with women. Already girls in this forum are only finding me an annoyance :(.

so i find you annoying. big deal. i find a LOT of people annoying. i'm just trying to help.

So now you're turning homosexual? ;) (just kidding!!!)

Just try doing more exercise (especially push ups and sit ups) to get more muscle. Im sure girls love that (girls do love that on a guy, right?) :) Getting to where you want to be is never easy. Just don't give up.
yes, yes we do love that on a guy.

Moving on,

How much importance do women place on Self-Confidence in other men?

some women like guys with low-ish self confidence so they can p*ssy whip them into doing whatever they want.

most women like guys with normal self confidence. you know, not an arrogant opinionated bonehead who thinks he's always right, but can also stand his ground in an agrument.

and few women like the super arrogant opiononated bonehead who thinks he's always right becuase they don't know anything themselves.

so really it depends on the woman in question.
 
yes, yes we do love that on a guy.
I knew women only go after muscular men like Arnold and other body builders :rolleyes:.

*CivGeneral looks at his stomach and grumbles and curses at it.

Perhaps liposuction and steroids would do the trick.

What about women who date men who have a few extra pounds and dont have muscles?

some women like guys with low-ish self confidence so they can p*ssy whip them into doing whatever they want.
Thoes kind of women I do not like, since I dont want to be whiped around into doing whatever they want. Then again I have very low self confidence and self esteem.
 
I've noticed in this thread that there's a lot of talk about "nice guys" and "bad guys."

How do girls define either?

How does one become a "nice guy," conversely how does one become a "bad guy?"
 
I've noticed in this thread that there's a lot of talk about "nice guys" and "bad guys."

How do girls define either?

How does one become a "nice guy," conversely how does one become a "bad guy?"
I second that question. Since when I think of a nice guy. I think of the stereotypical guy who always does things right and is respectfull to women where as the steryotypcial bad guy is a jerk who treats everyone around him like garbage.
 
CG - realize you are full of generalizationd and excuses. Until that changes, neither will your "luck" (if thats what you want to call it). No one wants to hear about another man's life in regards of how low they feel. Honestly most people don't care. We'd care much more if you grew some balls and did what worked and improved yourself. Respect.

This might have come down harsh on you but people aren't always going to sugar-coat everything. See it as it is. And frankly if I needed help with something I'd MUCH rather have someone tell it like it is. Sugar-coating and other stuff like this doesn't do crap.
 
CG - realize you are full of generalizationd and excuses. Until that changes, neither will your "luck" (if thats what you want to call it). No one wants to hear about another man's life in regards of how low they feel. Honestly most people don't care. We'd care much more if you grew some balls and did what worked and improved yourself. Respect.
CivRules, I don't have excuses. They are genuine problems that I am facing. Fear of Rejection, being shy, and not being comfortable with one's own image are NOT excuses.

This might have come down harsh on you but people aren't always going to sugar-coat everything. See it as it is.
Well you should have sugar-coat everything, what you said was quite harsh and I refuse to as you put it "work and improve" myself because the problems I am facing are Psycholocial problems I am facing!

GOD people just don't understand me.
 
"I can't."
"Give up."
"Not attractive."
"Girls always go for muscular guys."
"Finding me an annoyance."

How many more EXCUSES do I have to list? Ironically your post above was also an excuse.

Realize that I was the same or probably worse than you a year ago. It's priceless to see things from both perspectives. When you change, you'll feel ****ing powerful.
 
"I can't."
"Give up."
"Not attractive."
"Girls always go for muscular guys."
"Finding me an annoyance."

How many more EXCUSES do I have to list? Ironically your post above was also an excuse.

Realize that I was the same or probably worse than you a year ago. It's priceless to see things from both perspectives. When you change, you'll feel ****ing powerful.
Oy, you dont understand! They are NOT excuses!

"I'm not attractive" is not an excuse! Its an inflection of how I precive of myself that I dont see myself attractive to the opposite sex and there for ugly. Negative Self-Image is NOT an excuse.
 
Well you should have sugar-coat everything, what you said was quite harsh and I refuse to as you put it "work and improve" myself because the problems I am facing are Psycholocial problems I am facing!

GOD people just don't understand me.

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AS long as people sugar-coat things for you, YOU WILL NOT have a reason to change! Open your mind and look around yourself.

If change is to happen you've gotta put yourself out there and vulnerable to the world. Accept everything that comes your way. Except failure to change.
 
Oy, you dont understand! They are NOT excuses!

"I'm not attractive" is not an excuse! Its an inflection of how I precive of myself that I dont see myself attractive to the opposite sex and there for ugly. Negative Self-Image is NOT an excuse.

Yes it is an excuse. I'd take it as legit if you couldn't change how you saw yourself. But you can change that.
I've seen people shorter than 4' in wheelchairs get girls. I've seen short guys with lisps get girls. I've seen balding guys. Open your eyes and see that it doesn't really matter what you look like. Get rid of these limiting beliefs. You have a lot of those. And they are excuses.
 
Are there actually any females still reading this thread? :confused:
 
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AS long as people sugar-coat things for you, YOU WILL NOT have a reason to change!
I don't respond kindly to blunts and harshness.

If change is to happen you've gotta put yourself out there and vulnerable to the world. Accept everything that comes your way. Except failure to change.
I'm not going to make myself vunlerable to the world.

I'd take it as legit if you couldn't change how you saw yourself. But you can change that.
I cant change how I look and see myself.

Open your eyes and see that it doesn't really matter what you look like.
Does it look like I care? No. Sorry but it does matter what one looks like. It's the unfortunate reality living in a world that thin and attractiveness of hollywood is in.

Get rid of these limiting beliefs. You have a lot of those. And they are excuses.
No and sorry, once again they are not excuses. They are legit.
 
Well, theres always the priesthood for you CivGeneral.

You may want to recognize that everyone has problems and some may share yours... they may even be female. You have to make yourself available if you want the possibility of meeting someone.
 
I knew women only go after muscular men like Arnold and other body builders :rolleyes:.

*CivGeneral looks at his stomach and grumbles and curses at it.

Perhaps liposuction and steroids would do the trick.

What about women who date men who have a few extra pounds and dont have muscles?
I'm 85 kg for 1m74, not particulary muscular and have also a little belly. However, I'm married and have two kids.
Stop whining! You can do it.
First thing to do is accept yourself. How do you think someone can love you if you don't love yourself first?

Learn to love yourself, and things will do better.
 
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