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Because he is changing himself completely just to be with a girl, which could have bad results in the end.

Getting fit has more important benefits than being more attractive to girls. He'll be healthier, and might even feel a bit better about his precious self-image. He'll find everyday activities easier and will have more work options open to him.

When you're temping those warehouses looking for an extra pair of hands tend not to be looking for a fatty.
 
Getting fit has more important benefits than being more attractive to girls. He'll be healthier, and might even feel a bit better about his precious self-image. He'll find everyday activities easier and will have more work options open to him.

When you're temping those warehouses looking for an extra pair of hands tend not to be looking for a fatty.

Thing is, CivGeneral isn't fat. Having a belly is not fat. There are people much fatter than CG who get wives. And not because they're rich.
 
I think doing karate improves physical benefits.

And you can't blame him for being negative about himself, lots of people were, and are still. The brain is a complicated thing, you can't expect everything to go jolly well.
 
Doing karate might, but given that he admits to being overweight, perhaps it isn't enough on its own.
 
You can't expect everyone to be a skinny guy with muscles the size of the Earth. Not everyone's body is made that way. Some people are destined to have a belly, and trying to change that might make it worse. Forcing something onto your body is never good.

However, let CG read what I said on the previous page, and see what he has to say.
 
Oy, you dont understand! They are NOT excuses!

"I'm not attractive" is not an excuse! Its an inflection of how I precive of myself that I dont see myself attractive to the opposite sex and there for ugly. Negative Self-Image is NOT an excuse.
they yes, they are excuses. this is why i fidn you annoying. you complain and complain but never do anything about it. stfu already!

Are there actually any females still reading this thread? :confused:
obviously yes

I don't respond kindly to blunts and harshness.
I'm not going to make myself vunlerable to the world.
I cant change how I look and see myself.
Does it look like I care? No. Sorry but it does matter what one looks like. It's the unfortunate reality living in a world that thin and attractiveness of hollywood is in.
No and sorry, once again they are not excuses. They are legit.
you don't respond to anything except by way of complaint and excuses.
yea it does look like you care since you keep saying the same damn things over and over agian.
once again, they ARE excuses.

But they're usually vaccuously honest.
still honest! :)

Question for girls older than 15 please:
Do you tend to get horny when drunk?
i don't get drunk, but yes most of my friends do. i'm horny enough without getting drunk.

What is the easiest way to become friends with a girl, which doesn't involve having much if any conversation?
paintball! you're just shooting at eachother the whole time. or you could play games online. why wouldn't you want to have much conversation?

Then you just seek attention here without willingness to accept anyone's advice. Why, after pages, do you still post then? Move along so we can help people who know how to take advice.
So stop seeking emotional compensation. No one likes a negative person.
seriously. gahhhhh.

Doing karate might, but given that he admits to being overweight, perhaps it isn't enough on its own.
i did karate for 8 years. i got to 3rd degree black belt. there were some really fat kids there that did it for as long as i did, but they did the minimum of what they had to do, skipped sparring classes, and didn't make a big effort to lose weight.
it isn't enough on it's own. swimming and ice hockey are best for weight loss :thumbsup:
 
You can't expect everyone to be a skinny guy with muscles the size of the Earth. Not everyone's body is made that way. Some people are destined to have a belly, and trying to change that might make it worse. Forcing something onto your body is never good.

No-one, except people with very rare genetic disorders, is destined to have a belly. There are indeed different body shapes, but everyone has a great deal of control over muscle mass and fitness.
If someone did have such a disorder, it would have been identified at birth or in early childhood. They also are usually accompanied by mental dis/inability.

The only other people who have a good excuse for being fat are people who already have some other disability, such as scoliosis, blindness or paralysis, all of which interfere with doing exercise.

By belly I mean a saggy lump of flesh, not the slight curve that women work so hard to avoid but is perfectly natural. An entirely flat stomach means a girl is skinny.
 
What is it about dogs and boats that get girls so excited? I always get stopped by girls.


CivG--I've suggested this to you before so I'll just repeat it since you can skip girls until you can control "you".

Take a improv class or public speaking class. I guarantee you'll improve your confidence and shyness plus it's fun and lots of girls take these classes. You need to get out of your comfort zone since you were here on a Saturday night talking about this.

Spoiler :
  • Control your breathing - you should breath from the stomach not from the chest and slowly. You can take a deep breath and let it out to a count of four. You'll see baseball players do this all the time when they're at the plate. They need to be Zen like.
  • Relax your muscles - start with your face muscles and then neck, shoulders, back, arm, chest, butt, leg muscles and tell each muscle to relax one by one
  • Relax mentally - when you breath in think calm and when you breath out think release negative thoughts. Get rid of the negative self-talk/self-criticism. It's all self induced. I promise.
  • Practice becoming fascinated by other people. Ask them about themselves, and concentrate when they answer you. Remember what they tell you about themselves so you can talk about it later.
  • Great socializers make other people feel comfortable and interesting and don't use the word "I" a lot. Older people especially like to talk about their kids. Try it. Watch how their whole aura lights up. If you are talking to someone and you feel boring or inferior, ask why that is. Is it really all your fault?
 
What is it about dogs and boats that get girls so excited? I always get stopped by girls.

erm... i dunno. a stab in the dark would be the promise of exciting day trips out, something a bit of out the ordinary. they suggest your outdoorsy and likes to get out and about, attracts a certain kind of woman. you can go on a lot of very boring dates in a lifetime.
also big boat, big wallet = golddiggers!!!
 
Take a improv class or public speaking class. I guarantee you'll improve your confidence and shyness plus it's fun and lots of girls take these classes. You need to get out of your comfort zone since you were here on a Saturday night talking about this.

omg. i had both of those my freshman year, and i absolutely LOVED it. improv is so much fun. we had a show at the end of the term that counted for half of our grade. it was great. even my friends who hated that kinda stuff had a good time doing it.
 
Question for girls older than 15 please:
Do you tend to get horny when drunk?

Yes. But if you're obviously trying to pour the liquor in 'er, she's going to catch on. That might be encouraging if she's just looking for an excuse to go to bed with you, or might be discouraging if she's not really comfortable enough with you yet.

What is the easiest way to become friends with a girl, which doesn't involve having much if any conversation?

Friends? Not much conversation? Dude, what are your friends like?

What is it about dogs and boats that get girls so excited? I always get stopped by girls.

You can tell a lot about a person by how they interact with their dog. If you've got a good relationship with your dog, my guess is that the girls see that and figure you're a decent guy to approach.

Boats, well, it's not my thing, but a boat is probably an indication of a bank account, and maybe that you'll take her out and catch all the checks. I'd imagine it's a lot like expensive cars.
 
What is the easiest way to become friends with a girl, which doesn't involve having much if any conversation?

Drunk girl at a party - she being turned on - you being the only man around. Always works! Just that if you don't have a condom, you might be friends for a long time... ;)
 
Drunk girl at a party - she being turned on - you being the only man around. Always works! Just that if you don't have a condom, you might be friends for a long time... ;)

you can be intimate with a girl without intercourse...
 
Ok, since people are saying to me that I am annoying and should STFU. Perhaps I should do you all a favor and just give up.

Good day!
 
Civ wasn't that the opposite of what they said. Well at least in giving up, people are trying to be helpful, genuinely, there just not very subtle :) .

The fact that so many people have given you advice should be of some comfort, now it's up to you. Good luck anyway, sounds to me like you just need to get over yourself(sounds flippant it's not meant to be) Aint going to be easy, but it's all up to you. Monkey, back, get rid of. Sincerely I wish you well and I wish you luck in your endeavours. Therapy would help, but that's a you decision thing. Maybe group, I mean it's not like your alone or unusual really.
 
Ok, since people are saying to me that I am annoying and should STFU. Perhaps I should do you all a favor and just give up.

Good day!

people? i think i'm the only one that said that. maybe i missed someone else saying that tho. but i'm sure others are thinking that!

so does this mean you'll STOP making excuses and complaining and devote yourself to working hard at whatever you need to?? cuz that would really be the best thing for you to do.
 
so does this mean you'll STOP making excuses and complaining and devote yourself to working hard at whatever you need to?
No, and I'm not stoping making "excuses". After what I have seen here and seen no help. I may as well become a Misogynist.
 
there's plenty of help here. the only reason you're not getting anywhere is because YOU keep making excuses.

if you become a misogynist at least you'll stop complaining that they'll never be attracted to you since you'll hate them all anyway :thumbsup:
 
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