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[Gelion]

Ok then how accurate is this article? I've read about looking into thing like the graves locations aren't exactly encouraged.

As far as facts it is fairly accurate, I suppose. I wasn't watching this particular news story with great interest.

 

[Zardnaar]

As far as facts it is fairly accurate, I suppose. I wasn't watching this particular news story with great interest.

Ok thanks for that.

 

[Yeekim]

"International Memorial… is almost entirely focused on distorting historic memory, first and foremost about the Great Fatherland War [World War Two]," Alexei Zhafyarov told the court, accusing the group of creating a false image of the USSR as a "terrorist" state.

"Why should we, descendants of the victors, be ashamed and repent, rather than take pride in our glorious past? Memorial is probably paid by someone for that," the prosecutor claimed in court.

No comments needed, really. At least I understand none of those foreign-paid agents were shot or jailed for their subversive activities. Yet.

 

[Anysense]

Ok then how accurate is this article? I've read about looking into thing like the graves locations aren't exactly encouraged.

That article is just a typical piece of journalism with carefully selected facts to make it look as if those people are being persecuted for investigating Soviet past. If you want to know why they are so much trouble you'll have to do some digging. In short it was a lot anti-government and anti-Putin propaganda.

 

[Yeekim]

That article is just a typical piece of journalism with carefully selected facts to make it look as if those people are being persecuted for investigating Soviet past. If you want to know why they are so much trouble you'll have to do some digging. In short it was a lot anti-government and anti-Putin propaganda.

Being anti-Putin is a serious offence, no doubt.

 

[Verbose]

Being anti-Putin is a serious offence, no doubt.

And one way of being anti-Putin is to have a dim view of Stalin – and it's clearly the worse if it's based on actual documented knowledge of what went on in the Stalin-period. It would be so much easier if it all really was just "foreign propaganda".

 

[Zardnaar]

That article is just a typical piece of journalism with carefully selected facts to make it look as if those people are being persecuted for investigating Soviet past. If you want to know why they are so much trouble you'll have to do some digging. In short it was a lot anti-government and anti-Putin propaganda.

It's not the first article to mention looking into the negative aspects of the Soviet past is discouraged.

Trying to find the graves if your parents or grandparents for example.

That's only human no foreign interference required.

 

[Anysense]

It's not the first article to mention looking into the negative aspects of the Soviet past is discouraged.

Trying to find the graves if your parents or grandparents for example.

That's only human no foreign interference required.

This way you can whitewash anyone. Your favourite example: Hitler ate, slept, brushed his teeth etc, that is behaved like any normal person, hence as far as we know he was a perfectly normal person and allegations that he was a maniacal nazi dictator are completely unfounded.

 

[Zardnaar]

This way you can whitewash anyone. Your favourite example: Hitler ate, slept, brushed his teeth etc, that is behaved like any normal person, hence as far as we know he was a perfectly normal person and allegations that he was a maniacal nazi dictator are completely unfounded.

There are people around who deny or downplay Hitler's crimes.

They call them Holocaust deniers. Others try and justify the Nazi invasion of the USSR.

Difference is in Germany it's illegal along with flying the Nazi flag. German children also get to visit the camps such as Dachau and his regime isn't glorified in German schools.

 

[red_elk]

Being anti-Putin is a serious offence, no doubt.

I guess what Americans call "foreign meddling in elections" goes both ways.

 

[Zardnaar]

I guess what Americans call "foreign meddling in elections" goes both ways.

One thing I do agree with.

I suppose my moral arguement is in terms of sift power be better than the Americans. Do that you don't need to use hard power.

Americans screw it up a lot but they're better at soft power than Russia.

 

[Yeekim]

I guess what Americans call "foreign meddling in elections" goes both ways.

Afaik, Memorial was/is one of the oldest NGOs in today's Russia, started by Andrey Sakharov. Don't you think comparing them to a bunch of paid trolls on Facebook is kind of disrespectful?

 

[red_elk]

Afaik, Memorial was/is one of the oldest NGOs in today's Russia, started by Andrey Sakharov. Don't you think comparing them to a bunch of paid trolls on Facebook is kind of disrespectful?

May be, though 'disrespectful' doesn't necessarily mean 'incorrect'.

 

[red_elk]

"The Pilot. A Battle for Survival"

Somewhat similar to "The Revenant", but with Russian specifics. Based on compilation of several true stories happened in WW2.

 

[Arakhor]

Moderator Action: Closed, per OP's request.