Atlantis: What is it all about?

[Sarin]

An island larger than "Asia and Libya together" would make it almost twice the size of Asia (Libya was what the continent of Africa was called by ancient Greeks). Such a thing could barely even fit in the Atlantic, one has to suppose, unless the planet was mostly land.

To put this into perspective, this is the rough reconstruction of earliest Greek map, drawn roughly 100 years before Herodotus.

Spoiler :

As you can see, they didn't know that much about Africa or Asia (which was, at that time, only Achaemenid Empire for them). Even if you consider the perception of size to be somewhat correct, which is dubious, that would mean the size of Atlantis was somewhere around 10-20 million square kilometers based on Timaeus. That could easily fit the northern Atlantic, but still way too big to sink without a trace.

 

[Kyriakos]

I know of that map, iirc it is usually attributed to Anaximander (who was a student of Thales).
But one should keep in mind that the map is presenting a disc, not a globe, so again nothing would fit in the ocean.
=> Plato would have to be meaning some other map. The idea that the world is a sphere had appeared by his time - let alone the approximation of the size of its circumference, by Eratosthenes, in the Ptolemaic empire a little later

As for the story, it likely is another parable, although it's not out of the question that Solon could have been told such a thing by the egyptian priests.

 

[Sarin]

I know of that map, iirc it is usually attributed to Anaximander (who was a student of Thales).
But one should keep in mind that the map is presenting a disc, not a globe, so again nothing would fit in the ocean.
=> Plato would have to be meaning some other map. The idea that the world is a sphere had appeared by his time - let alone the approximation of the size of its circumference, by Eratosthenes, in the Ptolemaic empire

Anaximander knew the Earth was not flat, IIRC the original map was supposed to be on a curved surface. He probably has the notion that the landmasses are surrounded by the sea, and the edges are pretty much just "terra incognita". Timaues' perception would probably be halfway between this and Ptolemy's map, but since he predates Roman knowledge of far East, we're still very roughly in the same dimensions.

But that's piling assumptions on assumptions. It's very hard to judge the size of a landmass without means that they just didn't have, and Timaeus could easily be speaking about anything from the size of large island to a whole continent. Assuming there's a grain of truth in it at all.

 

[Kyriakos]

Anaximander is a person we don't know much about, and of course one would tend to assume he wouldn't be fond of a map that presents a disc (if we take it that it was a disc and not just a projection). Obviously he has good contributions in early science, such as (attributed) the first use of trigonometry in calculations to do with solar clocks (shadows on sand, presenting the passing of time etc).
Although he is mostly remembered for his notion of the "infinite", which he used as a primordial cause (arche). I have read that up to Anaximander, "infinite" existed in Greek only as an accompanying epithet (as in the infinite sea, in Homer), but now also became a noun/standalone.

The only fragment of his that I have read is about how things here (Earth) and in every other cosmos are born in the infinite, then travel to the "many worlds", then get ruined and return to the infinite to be reborn.

 

[Berzerker]

I thought Asia at that time meant Asia Minor, or Anatolia, or what is now Turkey. Area is about 770 000 km². For some reason, I thought Libya referred to the coastal region of northern Africa - or at least the known regions of Africa. I might do well to look up the geography as defined by Herodotus. He does say he does not know the extent of these continents - so it is hard to claim Atlantis is larger than Asia and Africa put together when you do not know the extent of Asia or Africa.

that was my understanding, western Turkey and northern Libya (Tripoli) jut out into bodies of water, so the comparison might be relevant to the description of Atlantis as a large island.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I've heard different dates for the Great Flood, Zecharia Sitchin says 13,000 years ago probably based on the Younger Dryas event. No, I think he came up with that date based on the 3600 year orbit of his Nibiru planet. He thinks Nibiru was nearby ~3800 bc, so thats 7400 bc and 11000 bc or 13,000 years ago. The myth of the disappearing and returning god plays into this.

I heard a Tlingit elder say their flood was 14,000 years ago. I think the most recent addition to the Scablands happened about 13,000 years ago, Lake Agassiz around 12,800 (a likely suspect for causing the YD).

Tell me about your version of the great flood. Does it match the Biblical version?

Sitchin says Nibiru was last here about 3800 BCE. But lets assume he has an error margin 200 years on either side; 4000-3600 would be the new range for Nibiru's passage. That means that the next pass would have been between 400 and 1 BCE. Now lots of people all around the world were watching the skies during those 400 years. How come no one noticed a new planet? Planets were well known. How come the Mesopotamian peoples didn't notice? And furthermore, the Anunnaki had been coming to earth for 400,000 years for their needed gold but they didn't come by in 3800 BCE or the next passby around 200 BCE.

Now Sitchin says that the Anunnaki left earth around 600 BCE. So they must be still living on Nibiru, right? I wonder where they are getting their gold from.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Tell me about your version of the great flood. Does it match the Biblical version?

Sitchin says Nibiru was last here about 3800 BCE. But lets assume he has an error margin 200 years on either side; 4000-3600 would be the new range for Nibiru's passage. That means that the next pass would have been between 400 and 1 BCE. Now lots of people all around the world were watching the skies during those 400 years. How come no one noticed a new planet? Planets were well known. How come the Mesopotamian peoples didn't notice? And furthermore, the Anunnaki had been coming to earth for 400,000 years for their needed gold but they didn't come by in 3800 BCE or the next passby around 200 BCE.

Now Sitchin says that the Anunnaki left earth around 600 BCE. So they must be still living on Nibiru, right? I wonder where they are getting their gold from.

Funny how these stories of ancient aliens, magic, and miracles and Louis Vuitton handbags doodled on a rock don't stand up to scrutiny as we get further into the era of recorded history and the scientific method.

 

[Berzerker]

Tell me about your version of the great flood. Does it match the Biblical version?

Sitchin says Nibiru was last here about 3800 BCE. But lets assume he has an error margin 200 years on either side; 4000-3600 would be the new range for Nibiru's passage. That means that the next pass would have been between 400 and 1 BCE. Now lots of people all around the world were watching the skies during those 400 years. How come no one noticed a new planet? Planets were well known. How come the Mesopotamian peoples didn't notice? And furthermore, the Anunnaki had been coming to earth for 400,000 years for their needed gold but they didn't come by in 3800 BCE or the next passby around 200 BCE.

Now Sitchin says that the Anunnaki left earth around 600 BCE. So they must be still living on Nibiru, right? I wonder where they are getting their gold from.

Fort Knox? If they still need gold maybe they've been taking it from us, or mining asteroids, moons and other planets, or they got enough for now. When we start colonizing other worlds we'll be looking for gold too. It does explain mankind's obsession, it aint really good for much without the technological need for it. But it sure came in handy when honoring the gods.

Slavery and gold... Even the story of the Garden made sure to let us know the importance of mineral wealth... So in my finest Capt Kirk impression - 'what does God need with gold?'

The flood story takes different forms depending on geography. The Younger Dryas Impact Theory Group researched flood myths looking for explanations, like do some flood myths describe tsunamis, quakes, celestial phenomenon, flood, deluge, etc. I haven't read their analysis or if its even done, but both Egypt and Mesopotamia says their gods had to reclaim the land after the flood.

The flood didn't cover the world and many people survived it, not just a family with a boat and animals. But it did leave a lasting impression. If you look at rising seas when the ice sheets melted there are vast stretches of land that went under water. Was it gradual or were there 'pulses' of water that could flood country sized chunks of land in days or weeks? The Atlantis story is placed 9600 bc or 11,600 years ago. Thats about when the Younger Dryas ended, Greenland warmed 20-25f in a matter of years or a few decades.

As for Nibiru... The Christmas star? I dont know, Sitchin didn't argue for that connection but if this planet swings by roughly every 3600 years and its last passage was near the end of bc it would have been seen and recorded. When I heard the Tlingit flood myth placing it 14,000 years ago I thought maybe Exodus was the right time frame.

Thats assuming a connection between the flood and the arrival of Nibiru. But Sitchin says the kings lists and start of the Nippurian (Hebrew) calendar at ~3800 bc is when Nibiru passed thru.

I mentioned the Zulu myth earlier, they believe their ancestors called the artificial ones, ie, made by god, went to war with the apemen when the war star rose in the sky. I think just about every culture believes in unseen worlds and that the gods come from one, I'd have to peruse Sitchin's evidence for his timeline. Celestial objects come and go, I'm not sure we'd know how to translate and interpret recordings of such objects. Thats why I think 'leylines' and astronomical alignments built into structures, temples, megaliths, etc, might lead us Nibiru.

Thorough analyses of several sites like Stonehenge might turn up clues by a process of elimination - do alignments point to something we cant see?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Fort Knox? If they still need gold maybe they've been taking it from us, or mining asteroids, moons and other planets, or they got enough for now. When we start colonizing other worlds we'll be looking for gold too. It does explain mankind's obsession, it aint really good for much without the technological need for it. But it sure came in handy when honoring the gods.

Why would we be looking for gold? There are other things a hell of a lot more practical than gold when we're exploring other planets. The primary two things we're looking for on Mars are water and organic life, either living or dead. The first is critical for survival while we do the other, which is one of the reasons for going there in the first place. The probes and rovers can only tell us so much.

Slavery and gold... Even the story of the Garden made sure to let us know the importance of mineral wealth... So in my finest Capt Kirk impression - 'what does God need with gold?'

Kirk also turned up his nose at a tableful of gems, saying he could manufacture a ton of them on the ship any time he wanted, and they meant nothing. The average gemstone in the 23rd century is of far less value than dilithium.

The flood story takes different forms depending on geography. The Younger Dryas Impact Theory Group researched flood myths looking for explanations, like do some flood myths describe tsunamis, quakes, celestial phenomenon, flood, deluge, etc. I haven't read their analysis or if its even done, but both Egypt and Mesopotamia says their gods had to reclaim the land after the flood.

Considering their civilizations were situated on flood plains, that's to be expected.

It's a catch-22 of the Avalon Hill Civilization board game that placing cities on flood plains means they grow much faster than cities on non-flood plain territories, but you're always dreading an opponent slipping the Flood calamity card in with the commodities in the trading round. Some players have been wiped out when that happens, their civilizations destroyed, and they're out of the game. This leaves the territory available for the survivors to move in on.

As for Nibiru... The Christmas star? I dont know, Sitchin didn't argue for that connection but if this planet swings by roughly every 3600 years and its last passage was near the end of bc it would have been seen and recorded. When I heard the Tlingit flood myth placing it 14,000 years ago I thought maybe Exodus was the right time frame.

No serious astronomer would go along with the Star of Bethlehem being some mythical planet that's never been proven to exist. The closest explanation they've come up with is that the Nativity story didn't actually occur the year it's said to have occurred, and in any case the only thing that fits the criteria for this "star" is an especially bright planetary conjunction.

 

[AdamCrock]

IMHO Most probable location would be near the coast of Florida (The Bermuda Triangle).

But it pales against Shambhala, which is located in the Antarctic. First discovered by Nazis , than operation "High Jump", where Americans fleet got whooped silly and (no surprise here) nuked that place after, doing "tests" and than UN said "No more nuclear tests in the Antarctic" ...Yea right .... Nuke everything You cannot comprehend, just in case. - Truly enlightened way

 

[r16]

really interested in nuclear tests in the Antarctic . How many ? considering USAF had no plane in the 1947 timeframe that could evade a "German jet" and deliver an atomic bomb at the same time . They are certainly not delivering them with dogsled right ?

 

[Samson]

@Kyriakos Yes they do know much of what it did. They don't know who made it or how they made the very intricate clockworks-like parts. They don't know if it was a one off. It shows lunar cycles, planetary positions, Olympic games and probably more. It used a hand crank to move things around and set up the results. The text material they have found written on it are mostly new discoveries. It is an "out of place" artifact of significance. Somebody was ahead of their time.

"Somebody was ahead of their time" seems to be downplaying it somewhat. It illustrates a level of technology that would be unbeliveable were it not for this artifact, in many areas from the skill to craft the pieces to the maths to design the mechanism. To me it mostly makes the "the wise man knows himself to be a fool", in that it shows how little we really know about the limits of technological knowledge in deep history. We have access to what, somewhere between a thousandth and a millionth of the manufactured goods of that period? Had we not found this one thing, how different would be our understanding of that time? What have we not found that would similarly change our ideas about the time?

 

[Kyriakos]

"Somebody was ahead of their time" seems to be downplaying it somewhat. It illustrates a level of technology that would be unbeliveable were it not for this artifact, in many areas from the skill to craft the pieces to the maths to design the mechanism. To me it mostly makes the "the wise man knows himself to be a fool", in that it shows how little we really know about the limits of technological knowledge in deep history. We have access to what, somewhere between a thousandth and a millionth of the manufactured goods of that period? Had we not found this one thing, how different would be our understanding of that time? What have we not found that would similarly change our ideas about the time?

I still doubt there'd be similar stuff circulating among druids
Maybe this was a custom-made piece, for some archon or similar, under directions of someone from the academies.
There's also no reason to assume the Antikythera mechanism was more impressive than all the war-inventions of Archimedes. He did hold back Rome virtually by himself (Syracuse only fell when the back got exposed from side-swapping allies)

 

[Berzerker]

we found that device because of a shipwreck, imagine what was lost by rising seas. ofc people evacuating probably wouldn't leave valuable equipment unless they had no option

are there any Greek inventors from that period known to have such talents?

not only do we find pyramid building at the same time in Egypt and S America but they share the practice of elongating the skull. Sitchin wanted the remains of Sumerian Queen Puabi tested for DNA, he thinks she might have some alien blood. She's famous for an elaborate burial head dress.

The problem is an enormous gap between the 3rd and 10th millennium bc. If Atlantis was 9600 bc why did it take 7000 years for civilizations in old and new worlds to start building pyramids? I can see a smaller delay as people recovered from the flooding, but even if Atlantis is a fiction we still have Gobekli Tepe showing the same gap.

According to peoples all over the world the gods wanted us to behave, lead humble austere lives and thats how most of the world existed. Then the culture bearers showed up to teach people, to educate them. Maybe Atlantis was not the source of diffusion.

At some point after the flood the people built a tower to reach God's abode. That upset God, he said if they could accomplish that nothing was beyond their ability so he told his friends "let us go" down and stop that. Another common theme, new technology might anger god.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

The native, Akkadian name of the city was Bāb-ilim, meaning "gate of God".

Stargate of God

as for Antarctica, it appears on maps centuries before its official discovery

On another note regarding Gaia, that is the Earth - what was left from the destruction of the proto-Earth Tiamat (biblical tehom).

 

[Birdjaguar]

we found that device because of a shipwreck, imagine what was lost by rising seas. ofc people evacuating probably wouldn't leave valuable equipment unless they had no option

are there any Greek inventors from that period known to have such talents?

Archimedes

not only do we find pyramid building at the same time in Egypt and S America but they share the practice of elongating the skull. Sitchin wanted the remains of Sumerian Queen Puabi tested for DNA, he thinks she might have some alien blood. She's famous for an elaborate burial head dress.

If you go to the British Museum and stand in from of the Queen's head paraphernalia, as I have, her head is perfectly normal. In your video, her skull is outlined to look large because it had had been crushed. Duh. Your video is fake news. And, BTW, I saw one of your "special" handbags. Yes one can see then in various wall sculptures. The one I saw was a standalone version. It is solid stone with carved patterns on both sides and a curved handle. It's purpose is not known, but being solid rock, its uses were pretty limited.

The problem is an enormous gap between the 3rd and 10th millennium bc. If Atlantis was 9600 bc why did it take 7000 years for civilizations in old and new worlds to start building pyramids? I can see a smaller delay as people recovered from the flooding, but even if Atlantis is a fiction we still have Gobekli Tepe showing the same gap.

S. American or Brazilian pyramids? Please post pics of those. The ones I've seen are just hills covered in trees or jungle. Any excavation pictures?

You keep putting Atlantis at 9000 BCE, The lunar calendar puts it at about 1400 BCE. Egypt used a Lunar calendar.

Gobekli Tepe? Well so far nothing alien has been found there. It appears to be a new stone age site where the transition from HG to agriculture happened as communities developed.

Sitchen's history of the world after 9000 BCE. It is quite a soap opera. It has nukes, iron weapons, sex, aircraft, slip and falls, death and rebirth. All this and more from a space faring species that mined the earth and built cities for 400,000 years and left no trace.

Spoiler :

9,000 bc ~ The city of Jericho is established, its ruins having been radio-carbon dated to circa 9,000 B.C. Jericho has been identified as a ’city’ due to its surrounding defensive wall, indicating that the inhabitants worked together to take precautions to protect their homes and community. It encompasses ten acres of land within its massive stone walls.

9,000 to 7,500 bc ~ Mankind enters into a period of civilization known as the Pre-Pottery Neolithic, a period in which the use of crude stone tools are giving way to polished stone implements with specific purposes. Man is continuing to domesticate a variety of animals and plants through this period. The form of wheat known as einkorn is sown outside its natural habitat in the region that is occupied by the present-day country of Syria. The plant, normally found to grow naturally in the Taurus and Zagros mountains was found at Tell Abu Hureyra and Mureybat on the banks of the Euphrates river, providing evidence that the inhabitants of this region intentionally cultivated the plant.

8,970 bc ~ The ’First Pyramid War’ takes place. HORON / Horus, having grown into manhood, heads to Tilmun, the Land Of The Missiles, with an army of loyal earthlings. They carry weapons made of iron, a new metal, the secrets of the making of which HORON learns from his great-uncle, GIBIL, a son of EN.KI. HORON challenges SATU / Seth to a battle in order to avenge the death of his father, ASAR / Osiris. SATU responds that the fight is between just the two of them, and in turn challenges HORON to a personal duel.

The two engage each other in the skies, and in the fight that ensues, SATU strikes HORON with a poisoned dart, causing him to fall to earth as in death. ASTA, seeing her son being struck dead, cries out to NINGISHZIDDA for his help. NINGISHZIDDA arrives and converts the poison in HORON’s body to benevolent blood, and ASTA’s son revives. HORON then attacks SATU, and the two once more become embroiled in a fight in their aircraft. HORON is victorious by shooting SATU down. Blind, and in bonds, he is taken by HORON before a council of the Anunnaki, who pronounce sentence on him that he should be allowed to live, albeit blind and heirless.

8,670 bc ~ The ’Second Pyramid War’ takes place. DU.MUZI, the youngest son of EN.KI falls in love with INANNA, the daughter of NAN.NAR, and granddaughter of EN.LIL. But their love is doomed, the events of which lead the descendants of EN.LIL into war with the descendants of EN.KI.

EN.KI gave to DU.MUZI and INANNA a large region north of the Abzu in which to reside and rule over following their betrothal. MAR.DUK, DU.MUZI’s older brother was jealous of DU.MUZI. After INANNA told GESHTINANNA, DU.MUZI and MAR.DUK’s sister of their dreams of building a great kingdom, GESHTINANNA went to MAR.DUK and told him all.

MAR.DUK laid out a scheme to cheat DU.MUZI and INANNA of a lawful heir. MAR.DUK convinced GESHTINANNA to go to DU.MUZI in order to be impregnated by him; in Anunnaki tradition, the child born between a brother and sister had greater legitimacy in terms of inheritance than one born between non-siblings.

After having impregnated his sister, GESHTINANNA, DU.MUZI dreamt that he was punished and his kingdom taken from him. He awoke and told GESHTINANNA of the dream. While he was disturbed by the dream, GESHTINANNA placed the suggestion in his head that perhaps the dream’s meaning was that when MAR.DUK would find out that they had lain together, he would assume that DU.MUZI had raped his sister. DU.MUZI was convinced that GESHTINANNA’s suggestion was correct, and in anguish he fled from her side. In his flight, DU.MUZI came upon a river, and slipping on the rocks, he was drowned in the torrent.

INANNA, the lover of DU.MUZI, was beside herself with grief. It was made known to INANNA that DU.MUZI’s lifeless body had floated in the waters of the river to the Abzu, wherein her sister, ERESH.KIGAL, reigned. So to the Abzu she traveled in order to retrieve the body of her lover. ERESH.KIGAL suspected INANNA of a scheme which was untrue; she suspected the grieving lover of attempting to gain an heir by their husband, NER.GAL, and promptly chained her to a stake.

Finding out about what had transpired between ERESH.KIGAL and INANNA, EN.KI fashioned two ’emissaries out of clay,' and sent them to the Abzu to obtain the release and return of INANNA. They found INANNA, but her life essence had already departed from her body, so the emissaries sprinkled the Water Of Life upon her and revived her. They returned the the ’upper world’ with INANNA and the body of DU.MUZI.

INANNA demanded that EN.KI should punish MAR.DUK for his role in the death of DU.MUZI. EN.KI replied that although MAR.DUK might have initiated the events which drove DU.MUZI to his eventual accidental death, he could not be held responsible for murder. INANNA then went to her own parents and pleaded for them to enact revenge on MAR.DUK.

EN.LIL sent a message to EN.KI demanding MAR.DUK’s surrender to the family of INANNA, to which EN.KI refused. And so, the two Second Pyramid War erupted between the families of EN.LIL and EN.KI.

Utilizing spacecraft armed with what must have been nuclear type weapons, the two families fought each other. Throughout the lands inhabited by the Annunnaki there was much destruction, and many innocent Anunnaki and earthlings were killed. Pursued by INANNA, MAR.DUK hid himself within the Ekur, the one great pyramid designed by his brother, NINGISHZIDDA. EN.LIL’s son, NIN.URTA found the secret entrance to the Ekur, and he, along with INANNA and ISH.KUR, pursued MAR.DUK through its corridors. Within the upper chamber of the Ekur, MAR.DUK lowered the sliding stone locks in order that his pursuers might not be able to follow him any further. But with him inside the chamber, EN.LIL’s children cut loose the ropes which held blocking stones in place. They slid into place sealing MAR.DUK inside the chamber.

SARPANIT, the spouse of MAR.DUK, went to EN.KI and begged him to set her husband free. EN.KI directed her to go NAN.NAR and his children, UTU and INANNA to beg for MAR.DUK’s life. But INANNA would not relent.

EN.KI and EN.LIL called for NIN.HUR.SAG to mediate. It was her decision that although MAR.DUK should be punished, he did not deserve to die. And so it was decided that MAR.DUK would be released from his prison-grave, but that he would have to go to live in a land in which no earthling resided. NINGISHZIDDA, who had built the great Ekur, was summoned to find a way to extricate MAR.DUK from its bowels.

When told of the terms of his release, MAR.DUK became enraged. But ultimately, he accepted his fate, and he, SARPANIT and their son, NABU made their way from the lands inhabited by the Anunnaki and the earthlings.

It was at this time the Great Pyramid was sacked by Ninurta and the invading forces and the crystals removed and some destroyed so it was not operational again.

610 to 560 bc ~ The Anunnaki start the depart the Earth from the Nazca Spaceport.

Naturally, there is no trace of the spaceport.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

we found that device because of a shipwreck, imagine what was lost by rising seas. ofc people evacuating probably wouldn't leave valuable equipment unless they had no option

are there any Greek inventors from that period known to have such talents?

not only do we find pyramid building at the same time in Egypt and S America but they share the practice of elongating the skull. Sitchin wanted the remains of Sumerian Queen Puabi tested for DNA, he thinks she might have some alien blood. She's famous for an elaborate burial head dress.

The problem is an enormous gap between the 3rd and 10th millennium bc. If Atlantis was 9600 bc why did it take 7000 years for civilizations in old and new worlds to start building pyramids? I can see a smaller delay as people recovered from the flooding, but even if Atlantis is a fiction we still have Gobekli Tepe showing the same gap.

According to peoples all over the world the gods wanted us to behave, lead humble austere lives and thats how most of the world existed. Then the culture bearers showed up to teach people, to educate them. Maybe Atlantis was not the source of diffusion.

At some point after the flood the people built a tower to reach God's abode. That upset God, he said if they could accomplish that nothing was beyond their ability so he told his friends "let us go" down and stop that. Another common theme, new technology might anger god.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

The native, Akkadian name of the city was Bāb-ilim, meaning "gate of God".

Stargate of God

as for Antarctica, it appears on maps centuries before its official discovery

On another note regarding Gaia, that is the Earth - what was left from the destruction of the proto-Earth Tiamat (biblical tehom).

CRASH!

CLUNK!

OWWW!!!

That's me, falling off my chair, laughing (okay, not for-real falling, but I'm definitely laughing).



You're seriously suggesting that one princess be tested for alien DNA because of some unfortunate thing that happened to her?

S. American or Brazilian pyramids?

Brazil is part of South America...

 

[Sarin]

we found that device because of a shipwreck, imagine what was lost by rising seas. ofc people evacuating probably wouldn't leave valuable equipment unless they had no option

are there any Greek inventors from that period known to have such talents?

I'm not interested in sitting through the video at the moment, is it about Antikythera? It's an interesting thing, but nothing that would be out of place. Greeks fiddled with machinery quite a bit, but rarely developed it further because slave labour was proven and cheaper, so short of stuff like Antikythera mechanism, automatic (as in, keep turning the crank and it will fire until magazine is expended) ballista or some very interesting hydraulic works, they mostly built one-off trinkets. Hero of Alexandria, one of most famous inventors after Archimedes, even built a vending machine, but it never caught on because the metal and work required was simply more expensive than a slave to hand you things.

not only do we find pyramid building at the same time in Egypt and S America but they share the practice of elongating the skull. Sitchin wanted the remains of Sumerian Queen Puabi tested for DNA, he thinks she might have some alien blood. She's famous for an elaborate burial head dress.

The problem is an enormous gap between the 3rd and 10th millennium bc. If Atlantis was 9600 bc why did it take 7000 years for civilizations in old and new worlds to start building pyramids? I can see a smaller delay as people recovered from the flooding, but even if Atlantis is a fiction we still have Gobekli Tepe showing the same gap.

Pyramids have been cropping up here and there across the Earth for some 5000 years. There's a good reason for it, one that has nothing to do with aliens or mysteries. Simply put, you've got little knowledge of advanced architecture and want to build something really big and impressive. Pyramidal structure is your only option. Architecturally, it's very simple, but lends to little internal space and requires a lot of material. But they can be quite impressive, which is why they were sometimes built even after more advanced architecture made them obsolete. Egyptians had a few hundred years of pyramid fad, so it's nothing surprising that there's another site from same period elsewhere in the world.

According to peoples all over the world the gods wanted us to behave, lead humble austere lives and thats how most of the world existed. Then the culture bearers showed up to teach people, to educate them. Maybe Atlantis was not the source of diffusion.

In other words, shut up, get in line and don't think for yourself. Religions always became a tool to keep the people from rising against their leaders.

Stargate of God

Next thing you'll be telling me that aliens are parasites inhabiting human bodies and pyramids are their landing sites.

On another note regarding Gaia, that is the Earth - what was left from the destruction of the proto-Earth Tiamat (biblical tehom).

Really? Earth had one such cataclysm, some four billion years ago or so. It got a moon from that. Took quite a while before it was inhabitable for the most basic life afterwards.

 

[Sarin]

S. American or Brazilian pyramids? Please post pics of those.

He means Caral in Peru. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caral

 

[Birdjaguar]

He means Caral in Peru. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caral

Thanks. Sitchin says the Egyptian pyramids were built as beacons for Alien space ships to land nearby so they could pick up the gold mined in Zimbabwe. Those pyramids in Caral are too far from the spaceport in Nazca to be useful and the Andes mountains would work pretty well anyway.

 

[Kyriakos]

While there are various "unusual tech" stuff mentioned here and there in ancient Greek history (a good example would be the flame-throwing siege machine, used by Thebes against Athens, according to Thucydides), as far as I know the Antikythera mechanism is an analog computer, and thus more an accomplishment of precise engineering than bizarre in context. After all, it was already known that the astronomy and the (at the time) formal logic was more than sufficiently developed in Greece to build such a thing.
Sometimes rare tech was so protected that it got lost. A good example would be the liquid fire, used for hundreds of years by the Byzantine Empire. They also had machines that mimicked animal sounds, and elevating thrones - all to impress the lowly barbarian emissaries

Sarin already mentioned Heron, with the early steam engine.