i'm not totally convinced yet, he did say he liked the Scramble for Africa scenario, and a Moroccan civ interacting with France would seem plausible for the scenario, and so maybe he was referring to that rather than the standard game.
Although, he said one of the units was a spearmen and the other a warrior. Both are from the ancient era and the scenario is from the industrial era. Both France and Morocco had gunpowder units by the time the scenario takes place. so having a French-Moroccan conflict involving a spearmen and a warrior is not likely for the SfA scenario, but would be perfectly acceptable in the regular game.
Although, he said one of the units was a spearmen and the other a warrior. Both are from the ancient era and the scenario is from the industrial era. Both France and Morocco had gunpowder units by the time the scenario takes place. so having a French-Moroccan conflict involving a spearmen and a warrior is not likely for the SfA scenario, but would be perfectly acceptable in the regular game.
I agree with you, but on the other side I am thinking that for the Zulu the Impi, which is a medieval unit, should be represented in the scenario. With this in mind , I think not all groups of civs will be in the same era or will have the same startingtechs. Or they will rework the techtree in such a way that certain aspects will be in the game.
While it is possible it's just a scenario situation, there's several reasons why I don't think this is the case:
1. The devs have already referred to the scenario's north african civ as a "North African" civ, i.e., a blob civ. (I'm not 100% sure on this one, so correct me if I'm wrong.) If this were indeed the case, then the interview would have had "North African warrrior" instead of "Moroccan Warrior".
2. I doubt the Moroccans would be using warriors for a Scramble for Africa civ. Morocco was definitely much more technologically advanced than that. I also doubt the French would be using spearmen too. The Europeans would definitely not be using a spearman.
3. The unidentified building on the poster, a hint the devs explicitly said was an important hint, bears a strong resemblance to several North African buildings as several posters have shown.
I'm pretty sure the devs didn't say it was a block civ, I think they meant it more like the fall of rome scenario, where there were three different groups (rome, the persia one and the barbarians) but each group had multiple civs
I don't know how appropriate it would be but I want to suggest Tariq_ibn_Ziyad as leader for the Morrocans/Moors. For he was Berber and was responsible for the conquest of the iberian peninsula, from which the "moorish" culture/civilization flourished.
I think a female warrior queen would be more interesting, but perhaps you're right. Yusuf is more closely tied to the Black Guards and the military Islamic culture of the Berbers...further, the Almoravids seem to have had more power and lasting influence through their conquest of Spain than the Berbers from the time of Kahina.
For people's reference, Yusuf is mentioned in the El Cid campaign of Age of Empires II: The Conquerors, and featured as one of the primary antagonists (alongside Count Berenguer and King Alfonso):
I don't know how appropriate it would be but I want to suggest Tariq_ibn_Ziyad as leader for the Morrocans/Moors. For he was Berber and was responsible for the conquest of the iberian peninsula, from which the "moorish" culture/civilization flourished.
Tariq ibn Ziyad is also a good idea, though not much is known about him. He was a very capable military commander, and Gibraltar is named after him, but his history seems to have more personal enmity than much else...
Another female leader for Moroco could be Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyah, much of the glory of the Almoravid Empire is credited to her. However, like Theodora she did not actually rule. I think she might be a good choice.
Well, the Ottomans seem to have that Barbary Corsairs schtick sewn up.
Of course, the Prize Ship ability is something I'd love to see change. We have it now because it's the closest we could come to plunder on the high seas, but with true "prize ships" coming, we don't need it.
It had been said early on that one civ would have an extra trade route. If Morocco is in and that UI that looks like a Kasbah is one, then they may be the civ with the extra trade route, plus something for the more land-based trade side of the system.
It had been said early on that one civ would have an extra trade route. If Morocco is in and that UI that looks like a Kasbah is one, then they may be the civ with the extra trade route, plus something for the more land-based trade side of the system.
I also don't think that the trade routes can be specificed, I don't think you have a limit of one trade route on land and sea, you got 4 trade routes available, so I don't think it's possible or makes much sense to give an extra "sea" trade route.
It had been said early on that one civ would have an extra trade route. If Morocco is in and that UI that looks like a Kasbah is one, then they may be the civ with the extra trade route, plus something for the more land-based trade side of the system.
I don't think there is going to be a civ with an extra trade route any more. I used to, but Portugal got the double bonus for resources trait, and that is not only better than one extra trade route, but having an extra trade route would pretty much feel the same.
I could see something like giving a civ a bonus to internal trade routes, or something similar, but I don't think we will see an extra trade route as a UA.
Another female leader for Moroco could be Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyah, much of the glory of the Almoravid Empire is credited to her. However, like Theodora she did not actually rule. I think she might be a good choice.
I suggested her earlier and no one responded. Although she did not directly rule, she had the political influence that allowed her husband to rule. She essentially had all the contacts and the wealth to make it work. Given this, I would say his rule was more of a partnership in many ways. And he's known as the founder of the Almoravids, of which Morocco is the direct successor.
If they want a female leader, she's one I would suggest. Plus, by using a Berber-speaking leader, they help distinguish them from the Arabs (in addition, a female leader does this as well, similar to Germany and Austria).
I suggested her earlier and no one responded. Although she did not directly rule, she had the political influence that allowed her husband to rule. She essentially had all the contacts and the wealth to make it work. Given this, I would say his rule was more of a partnership in many ways. And he's known as the founder of the Almoravids, of which Morocco is the direct successor.
If they want a female leader, she's one I would suggest. Plus, by using a Berber-speaking leader, they help distinguish them from the Arabs (in addition, a female leader does this as well, similar to Germany and Austria).
Very good idea (link isn't very helpful tho)! She seems very much like a Moroccan Theodora - indirectly ruling through her husband and since Theodora was included, there certainly is a precedent.
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