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Best Tank of WW2

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Zardnaar, Nov 25, 2019.

  1. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo Deity

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    I read on wikipedia that they were using Tiger and Panther turrets built into hills. Pretty cool.
     
  2. Zardnaar

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    That to but they actually buried whole tanks and TDs.



    Jagdpanzer IV thumbnail.

    People will restore anything but the only supply left if WW2 tanks for the most part is rivers, forests, and digging. Especially German stuff, scrapyards etc were scoured long ago.
     
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  3. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Quad B

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    As soon as you figure out which one is best, I'll have three tanks of WW2, five barrels of Korean conflict, and a case of bottled Viet Nam, to go. Thanks.
     
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  4. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Germany helped Bulgaria build up a Bulgarian Panzer Division,with numbers of Pz4s, Stuggs, JapdgPanzer4s but before they were deployed Bulgaria changed sides, that why they have so many intact German tanks
    After the war Bulgaria kept its German tank inventory and finally later used them in static fortifications, which is what Soviet did with all its old T-34s
    Only now that these old Panzers are worth money and tank poachers have stolen a few to sell, did Bulgaria go and dig them all up to secure them.

    Probably want to restore them and then sell them to collectors for some euromonies.
     
  5. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Do you have pics or diagrams of how the wet storage and shielded racks worked?
     
  6. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    The early Shermans had ammo behind the turret like the T34 to increase the reloading speed. But when the tank is hit, even small fragments penetrating could set off the tanks stored ammo
    The US solved this by putting the ammo inside jackets, and additional wet ammo racks are just water filled jackets.

     
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  7. r16

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    gotta be a thing ı missed . The designer guy of T-34 died because of a cold , because he was involved in driving tests , like in January , which is cold even here .
     
  8. amadeus

    amadeus Bring back the Civ2 theme!

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    How are we defining best? Best kill to loss ratio? Fewest breakdowns? Easiest to produce?

    My definition is aesthetic, and by my standards the Panzer II is the clear winner.
     
  9. FriendlyFire

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    Soviets rejected the T-34 tank design. Mostly as a result of Stalin favourtism in selecting the KV1
    Out of desperation he personally drove the T-34 prototype nearly IIRC 1000km, an amazing feat of reliablity in order to demonstrate the tank to Stalin and get approval for it to go into production
    This brave act cost him hes life, but hes tank design would go on to play a vital role in the war.
     
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  10. r16

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    them Soviets most definitely did not reject the T-34 . You are ignoring the Soviet type of paranoia , with them assuming they were already totally behind in the field of shellproofs . And like perhaps an unjustified thing against the KV , which was even more impressive in 1941 so much that the Germans would land captured KVs on Malta in 1942 instead of III or IV Specials .
     
  11. cardgame

    cardgame Obsessively Opposed to the Typical

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    KV-1 was just as impressive, if not more so, than the Tiger, at least in relative terms. Shame it's such an unknown tank to most.
     
  12. Zardnaar

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    KV was not that good outside of 1941. Soviets stopped making it for a reason
     
  13. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    As other have pointed out KV1 had a short window of supremacy
    But had a lot of issues, its transmission was so bad that drivers had to use a hammer to change gears, poor vision, weight and speed leading to mechanical breakdowns, poor reliability
     
  14. cardgame

    cardgame Obsessively Opposed to the Typical

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    Mostly because T-34 spam was better
     
  15. Zardnaar

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    That and it was very unreliable, kinda blind, and once Germans upgunned it's armor didn't matter.
     
  16. r16

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    would have to agree to all , except it wasn't abandoned and it became the standart heavy , being the root for stuff up to T-10 which was a problem until 1980s . If the Soviets had managed to avoid so many losses they would have the capacity for speedy development and say IS-3 could have been active in '44 . Or maybe not as the war could have been already over .
     
  17. tetley

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    The best tanks, far and away, came out in 1945, but that was too late to really figure into much.
     

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