BirdNES 3: When Worlds Collide

[The Strategos]

To: Our Cousin, Lady Blanche of Montferrat, Mother of the Duke of Savoy
From: King Charles VIII of France

We greet you, our most beloved cousin, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Our soul rejoices within ourselves that you have sought shelter under our wings. For should we not have mercy upon you for the sake of our aunt, Yolande of Valois, who is grandmother to the Duke of Savoy, as well as for the sake of our own dear mother, Charlotte of Savoy? If we pushed you, our own family away, would we be any better than the heathens? God forbid we do such a thing. But rather you will find us as a mother bear, ready to defend her cubs against all that threatens them.

Your own cousin, the King of France, has written these words in our own hand. Our betrothed, Margaret of Austria also sends her greetings. The most noble peers of our realm send their greetings. Remember us, we pray, before our Almighty God, and we will do likewise for you. Farewell.



To: King Henry VII of England
From: Charles VIII, King of France by the Grace of God

Why do we fight though we are brothers? Are we Cain that we should seek our brother’s blood? England seeks a throne which is not hers, while French gold buys English blood. Yet did we not embrace you in our bosom when Richard III sought your life? Did we not give you troops, equipment, and gold, to take the throne God had given you? Why then should you treat us as pagans and Mohammedans? Let us be at peace, renounce your attempts at stealing our Throne, and publicly acknowledge our right to be King of France.

Let us also settle all the accounts which are between us! Let us settle the repayment of the “loan” we gave you when we supported your claim to the throne of England with four thousand men. Let us settle the repayment we owe you, the money wish we promised to pay you in 1478 and which had lapsed on the death of our Father. Let us settle the loan of our vassal, Brittany, let us clear their debt to you.

If you do all these things then we shall promise not to support your enemies, nor give succor to them. If any come into our kingdom, they shall fall into our hands, we will not let them escape, but give them Jael’s hospitality! If the one who claims to be Richard, Duke of York, falls into our hands, we shall not let him escape! With golden chains shall he be presented unto you, a royal gift for one of royal blood.

Do you see how eager we are for peace? For we, the King of France, have written such a letter with our own hands! Therefore do not turn us away, but embrace us, that next time we write to you, we write not as enemies, but as brothers.

 

[Crezth]

Post in the offices of the Hohenheim House across the Weste of Europe, a message meant to advertise the services of Edward Hohenheim

For the better interests of those gentlemen of property and want, we offer the investor's service truly from Zürich. To better guarantee the security of debt and to establishe properly business and enterprise it is our decree that with good Cause and Conscience come a momentous gifte of gold, to be repaid in interest on issues determined by case. To apply the distinguished gentlemen need only visit the office of their residence, or use the Post when none is available. For the noble in need of security, Hohenheim graciously offers the capability of warriors whose lord is only gold, and as long as this is assured the services are assured. Likewise, the explorer of daring may finde his expedition hosted by Hohenheim and supplie given, in exchange forre profit opportunity to replace interest.

 

[carmen510]

OOC-ish: Confirmations and OOC communication is supposed to be in the Discussions thread.

IC:

From Sikander Shah
To the Hindus of the Delhi Sultanate

It was formerly the policy of our Muslim Sultans to prosecute the Hindus unjustly and unfairly, no longer. To facilitate the development of the nation and to restore friendly ties to both our great peoples, we wish in exchange for the ceased destruction of temples and the restoration of allowed Hindu worship, cooperation from the Hindus, both in peace and war. We may live side by side, on terms of friendliness like both our respective religions preach, instead of violence on this side of the terrestrial world. The true judgment will separate believers from nonbelievers, so there should be no need to hasten such a process. We will not however, deviate from the Muslim majority government for the time being. We would wish for a speedy and welcoming reply.

 

[Ace of Gold]

To:King Charles VIII of France
From: Savoy

Thats great news. I bow before you in friendship my beloved cousin.

 

[Thlayli]

lurker's comment: I smell a TNESI Delhi Sultanate redux.

 

[Birdjaguar]

TO: Abu ‘abd-Allah Muhammad XII, of Grenada
FROM: Ferdinand II and Isabella, of Spain

Muslim-kind must be evicted from the Christian lands you hold, you will surrender your lands to the crown of Spain immediately, with no resistance. God wills it that your lands be in the hands of true believers, if you do not comply, war with irreversible consequences for your people will be brought upon thee.

From: Abu ‘abd-Allah Muhammad XII of Grenada
The infidels of your unholy army will die upon the ramparts of our fair city even if we are martyred in the holy hame of Allah.

From Sikander Shah
To the Hindus of the Delhi Sultanate

It was formerly the policy of our Muslim Sultans to prosecute the Hindus unjustly and unfairly, no longer. To facilitate the development of the nation and to restore friendly ties to both our great peoples, we wish in exchange for the ceased destruction of temples and the restoration of allowed Hindu worship, cooperation from the Hindus, both in peace and war. We may live side by side, on terms of friendliness like both our respective religions preach, instead of violence on this side of the terrestrial world. The true judgment will separate believers from nonbelievers, so there should be no need to hasten such a process. We will not however, deviate from the Muslim majority government for the time being. We would wish for a speedy and welcoming reply.

To: Sikander Shah

Actions speak louder than words and we will wait to see if the truth of your boasts is made manifest uppon the Hindus.

 

[Nordstream]

To Ashikaga Yoshizumi

When a master requests something of a servant he expects to be obeyed. When he is not obeyed the servant is punished. The Secretariat has repeatedly ordered Japan to crack down upon the wokou. Japan has failed to effectively stifle this menace time and time again.

Crack down on the wokou in a timely and effective manner or the Secretariat will issue an Imperial Decree shutting down the port of Ningbo to all Japanese tribute missions forthwith and revoke all Japanese passports.

Signed,
Chancellor of the Secretariat of the Empire of the Great Ming
Loyal Servant of the Son of Heaven

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Is this the final version of the map? Because my color is still an unsightly lime green.

 

[carmen510]

From the Delhi Sultanate
To Bengal

We have no quarrel with your peoples, and would like to secure your promise of a mutual non-aggression pact for 40 years. Would you agree to such a treaty? We would also like to secure a trading agreement of Delhi spices and textiles in exchange for agricultural products such as rice, as well as jute and tea. Is this agreeable to your people?

 

[Terrance888]

To Italian City States (Venice, Genoa, Rome)
From Milan

Shall we create a Mutual Protection Pact? We have stronger military powers that have designs on Italy and we could protect ourselves better if we were united.

To Milan
From Genoa
CC: Venice and Rome

We agree to a Mutual Protection Pact. We, and in the grace of God, need to protect the homeland of Italy and see each other as friends.

 

[Birdjaguar]

From the Delhi Sultanate
To Bengal

We have no quarrel with your peoples, and would like to secure your promise of a mutual non-aggression pact for 40 years. Would you agree to such a treaty? We would also like to secure a trading agreement of Delhi spices and textiles in exchange for agricultural products such as rice, as well as jute and tea. Is this agreeable to your people?

To the Sultanate of Delhi
From Bengal
We agree to maintain peace between our kingdoms if you do not meddle into the affairs of Bengal or its neighbors.

OOC: Trade between nations in the same region is automatic and ongoing. Typically it will grow with time. All the Indian nations are trading with one another.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

Joining as Naples.

From Naples
To Milan, Genoa
CC Venice, Rome, Papal States

We also are Italians- can we not join this pact? More states are needed if we are to be able to defend against the foriegner.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Joining as Naples.

From Naples
To Milan, Genoa
CC Venice, Rome, Papal States

We also are Italians- can we not join this pact? More states are needed if we are to be able to defend against the foriegner.

Welcome. Make sure you have read the rules and understand how to write orders.

I will have to create expanded stats for Naples which I will do this weekend. Also I will send you a pm.

 

[das]

From: Ioann Vasilyevich, Grand Prince of Moscow, Master of the Entire Rus, etc.
To: Mingirey, Khan of Crimea (OOC: Menli Giray), etc.

Friend and brother, We pass You Our good wishes and gifts with this ambassador, and hope that You are healthy and all is well in Your domain.

[...]

Sixteen years ago we have signed a treaty and since then we fought as one against the Khan in Sarai (OOC: the Great Horde) and the Lithuanian Prince and whoever else would seek to threaten either one of us. Now some evil tongues and empty people in Our capital city and elsewhere say that our ties had grown weaker, now that You have signed a treaty with the Turkish Sultan; know that We still count Ourselves as Your friend, brother and ally, and hope that You do as well. The Turkish Sultan We consider a friend and brother as well, and if through Your help and Your friends at Their court We could reach a treaty of brotherhood, alliance and trade with Them, as We had reached with You in the past and now seek to confirm, then We will be only grateful; know that We will not go over Your head in this matter, and will gladly listen to any advice You could offer.

[...]

As for Our advice it is such: the Khan of Sarai is weak and unsupported, his enemies are many and his lands are constantly ravaged. If You march against him in a year, You will surely succeed in stopping that serpent from rearing its head again, and if God wills it might even seize Sarai, to which You are entitled; and in such a worthy cause, We will be obliged to assist You, and so assist You We shall, not for profit or out of interest, but because You are Our friend and brother.

[...]

(OOC: Important in-game parts bolded

The idea is that this is aimed at the semi-autonomous Turkish vassal ruler of Crimea; personally I think it would be better if Birdjaguar replied, because, as I pointed out elsewhere, Menli Giray was allowed to conduct an independent foreign policy, and if the Turks happen to strongly dislike it they could just remove him or threaten to do so after inevitably learning about it from Menli Giray, his enemies and/or their spies at his court. Anyway, if Menli Giray agrees to help us start negotiations with the Porte, then we will conduct negotiations with the Sultan himself (Azale) separately - I was thinking basic trade rights and protection for Russian merchants in Ottoman territory for now, since the situation has been decidedly awful in this regard since the Ottoman conquest of Genoese colonies in Crimea)

 

[BananaLee]

To Milan, Genoa, Venice, Florence, Siena, and the other Italian states
From Il Papa Innocentus VIII

Do NOT speak to the King of Naples under any circumstances. You may recall that I excommunicated him last year over the non-payment of tarrifs of investiture to the Holy See.

Until Ferdinand repents of his sins and pays the required tarrifs, he shall remain shunned by the Catholic community of the World

 

[HMS Vanguard]

To Ashikaga Yoshizumi

When a master requests something of a servant he expects to be obeyed. When he is not obeyed the servant is punished. The Secretariat has repeatedly ordered Japan to crack down upon the wokou. Japan has failed to effectively stifle this menace time and time again.

Crack down on the wokou in a timely and effective manner or the Secretariat will issue an Imperial Decree shutting down the port of Ningbo to all Japanese tribute missions forthwith and revoke all Japanese passports.

Signed,
Chancellor of the Secretariat of the Empire of the Great Ming
Loyal Servant of the Son of Heaven



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Is this the final version of the map? Because my color is still an unsightly lime green.

TO : The Chancellor of the Secretariat of the Empire of the Great Ming.
FROM : The Palace of the Shogun of Japan.

Within the coming year, these, pirates shall be dealt with, harshly. However, We can only control what they do within Japanese Ports, and Japanese waters, outside of which our jurisdiction ends. If action needs to be taken in Ming waters, then so be it, and Japan shall see to it that within our jurisdiction, they will be punished.

The possibility also arises, that individuals independant from the Governance of the Empire may also be supporting the wokou in their raids, however, we are not implicating the Empire in conspiring with such individuals. But know also that these wokou operate independant of the commands of the Shogun.

We hope you understand our position, and know that action will be taken swiftly, when they enter Japanese Waters.

Signed

The High Chancellor of the Shogun of Japan

 

[Matt0088]

To: Milan
From: Venice

We will not join any such arrangement which you will inevitably break.

 

[Birdjaguar]

From: Ioann Vasilyevich, Grand Prince of Moscow, Master of the Entire Rus, etc.
To: Mingirey, Khan of Crimea (OOC: Menli Giray), etc.

Friend and brother, We pass You Our good wishes and gifts with this ambassador, and hope that You are healthy and all is well in Your domain.

[...]

Sixteen years ago we have signed a treaty and since then we fought as one against the Khan in Sarai (OOC: the Great Horde) and the Lithuanian Prince and whoever else would seek to threaten either one of us. Now some evil tongues and empty people in Our capital city and elsewhere say that our ties had grown weaker, now that You have signed a treaty with the Turkish Sultan; know that We still count Ourselves as Your friend, brother and ally, and hope that You do as well. The Turkish Sultan We consider a friend and brother as well, and if through Your help and Your friends at Their court We could reach a treaty of brotherhood, alliance and trade with Them, as We had reached with You in the past and now seek to confirm, then We will be only grateful; know that We will not go over Your head in this matter, and will gladly listen to any advice You could offer.

[...]

As for Our advice it is such: the Khan of Sarai is weak and unsupported, his enemies are many and his lands are constantly ravaged. If You march against him in a year, You will surely succeed in stopping that serpent from rearing its head again, and if God wills it might even seize Sarai, to which You are entitled; and in such a worthy cause, We will be obliged to assist You, and so assist You We shall, not for profit or out of interest, but because You are Our friend and brother.

To: Ioann Vasilyevich, Grand Prince of Moscow
From: Meñli I Giray, Khan of Crimea

Your correspondence is pleasing to us. The Khan of Sarai is a weak dog and we will support your efforts in crushing him. An alliance of mutual support would serve our purposes and that of the Sublime Porte. In the season in which we hear of Muscovy's advance against the Horde, we too shall advance to dismember the bloody corpse of Sarai. We shall take the southern lands of that soon to be gone realm and leave it's northern reaches to your gracious majesty.

 

[Nordstream]

TO : The Chancellor of the Secretariat of the Empire of the Great Ming.
FROM : The Palace of the Shogun of Japan.

Within the coming year, these, pirates shall be dealt with, harshly. However, We can only control what they do within Japanese Ports, and Japanese waters, outside of which our jurisdiction ends. If action needs to be taken in Ming waters, then so be it, and Japan shall see to it that within our jurisdiction, they will be punished.

The possibility also arises, that individuals independant from the Governance of the Empire may also be supporting the wokou in their raids, however, we are not implicating the Empire in conspiring with such individuals. But know also that these wokou operate independant of the commands of the Shogun.

We hope you understand our position, and know that action will be taken swiftly, when they enter Japanese Waters.

Signed

The High Chancellor of the Shogun of Japan

Then the Secretariat will expect tangible results in the coming years. If Japan is successful in cracking down on wokou activity within its domain then the Secretariat is prepared to reward Japan by increasing the frequency of Japanese tribute missions. Furthermore should great results be noted then an additional port will be opened to Japanese tribute.


Signed,
Chancellor of the Secretariat
Loyal Servant to the Son of Heaven Emperor Hongzhi

 

[germanicus12]

To Venice
From Milan

We are truly sorry you feel that way, I sincerely hope that you don't get attacked soon.

To Il Papa Innocentus VIII
From Ludovico Sforza of Milan

Of course your Holiness, Naples is now on our non Christian list. Though I am pleased to announce that Genoa, Milan and Rome now share the MPP and you will have our support against Naples should you need it.

 

[Angst]

Woa, this got kicked off during my week in Spain. Kalmar-ish stuff coming up possibly during the next week, before the deadline.