News heard on the docks of Bangka Island and in other less familiar areas of the region:
BirdNES 3: When Worlds Collide
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Abaddon
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Foolish noise to make, Banka Island must be almost 100% Chinese, with several thousand soldiers there to boot?
Agent 89
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To: His Holiness, Gregorious XIII
From: Maximilian von Hapsburg
Your Holiness, I fear I must echo the sentiments of my brothers in Spain and Milan. For His Holiness, the Lord's representative on earth, to sell the whole of the Italian peninsula to the rule of King Charles of France is such a misfortune, and so unfitting of your Holiness that I could scare believe my ears when word was brought to me. The Holy Bible itself tells us not to covet that of our neighbor, yet you openly approve of Charles attempting to rule over his neighbor's kingdoms, which are not rightfully his.
Imperial soldiers have died on the field of battle, driving back the heathen Turks from Europe for God's greater glory, and yet you disrespect their memory by allowing the King of France to bribe you so. We fear that his Holiness may not have understood the implications of his actions when he promised these lands to Charles, and perhaps you were blinded in your excitement for the upcoming Ecumenical Council and the glory that it has brought to the Church. Whatever the case, we beg your Holiness to repeal this false recognition of Charles' rule over Italy, tainted as it is by bribery and the blood of good Christian soldiers.
From: Maximilian von Hapsburg
Your Holiness, I fear I must echo the sentiments of my brothers in Spain and Milan. For His Holiness, the Lord's representative on earth, to sell the whole of the Italian peninsula to the rule of King Charles of France is such a misfortune, and so unfitting of your Holiness that I could scare believe my ears when word was brought to me. The Holy Bible itself tells us not to covet that of our neighbor, yet you openly approve of Charles attempting to rule over his neighbor's kingdoms, which are not rightfully his.
Imperial soldiers have died on the field of battle, driving back the heathen Turks from Europe for God's greater glory, and yet you disrespect their memory by allowing the King of France to bribe you so. We fear that his Holiness may not have understood the implications of his actions when he promised these lands to Charles, and perhaps you were blinded in your excitement for the upcoming Ecumenical Council and the glory that it has brought to the Church. Whatever the case, we beg your Holiness to repeal this false recognition of Charles' rule over Italy, tainted as it is by bribery and the blood of good Christian soldiers.
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To Pope Gregorius XIII, his utmost holiness, the representative of God on Earth
From the humble Janos Corvinus
If you may excuse me for saying so your Holiness, I happen to agree with the illustrious Juan I of Spain, and with the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Gifting the Italian peninsula to any one monarch of Europe would be an unreasonable act. But when said monarch also has been shown to openly aid pagans in their slaughter of God-fearing men, to engage in intrigue throughout Europe, seeking to kidnap by kind mother from her summer home, de facto annexing the Kingdom of Naples, and many other things which I need not list here, well, it is rather obvious what kind of a person he is, no matter how pious he claims to be.
Thus, I have to join my Christian brothers is protesting the recent privileges you have given Charles of France. I hope that in your great wisdom, your Piety will arrive at a satisfactory solution to this issue.
From the humble Janos Corvinus
If you may excuse me for saying so your Holiness, I happen to agree with the illustrious Juan I of Spain, and with the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Gifting the Italian peninsula to any one monarch of Europe would be an unreasonable act. But when said monarch also has been shown to openly aid pagans in their slaughter of God-fearing men, to engage in intrigue throughout Europe, seeking to kidnap by kind mother from her summer home, de facto annexing the Kingdom of Naples, and many other things which I need not list here, well, it is rather obvious what kind of a person he is, no matter how pious he claims to be.
Thus, I have to join my Christian brothers is protesting the recent privileges you have given Charles of France. I hope that in your great wisdom, your Piety will arrive at a satisfactory solution to this issue.
germanicus12
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Bird@ Seeing as I am in "control" of Genoa, do I issue orders for them in my orders or are they NPC and thus I must either influence or advise them to do a certain thing and hope they follow through? I wanted to know for spending purposes, since I have a few ideas for Genoa to spend her money on and would like to help them do this.
You can include Genoa orders/spending as a separate part of Milan's, but there might well be other influences at work too. 
skeptikalz!
The Truth and the Lie
I may consider picking up the Teutonic Order. Can anyone enlighten me on their current situation (war or otherwise)?
das
Regeneration In Process
Hah, I (Muscovy) was about to do some diplomacy with the Teutonic Order.
As I understand it, you've been having a somewhat low-key on-again-off-again war with Poland-Lithuania as of late. More off than on this turn, but maybe we can change that?
As I understand it, you've been having a somewhat low-key on-again-off-again war with Poland-Lithuania as of late. More off than on this turn, but maybe we can change that?
You may join as teh Teutonic Knights. Current stats are posted. das' description is correct.
Orders in before I go to bed Sunday night get 1000 gold added to their next stats. I will begin updating stats as orders come in and then proceed with the narrative.
skeptikalz! are you joining?
Karalysia are you changing?
skeptikalz! are you joining?
Karalysia are you changing?
skeptikalz!
The Truth and the Lie
I'll wait and seriously consider after this next update. A lot of stuff for me to read and take in concerning rules, etc.
LittleBoots
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TO: His Imperial Majesty, Maximilian von Hapsburg, Emperor of Austria, Most Catholic King
FROM: Gregory, Servant of the Servants of God
Your pious generosity sings to the heavens and sounds forth the pure faith in your heart, and your intended gift warms our heart; yet, we pray that your majestic gift be borne back to you, that you may instead put it to good works among the heathens, that they might witness the goodness of our God and Church, and find themselves blessed by God through his Church and through his servant, Maximilian.
For the piety of Maximilian is now known to us, but, yea, even in a good man there resides an evil tongue, for the tongue is indeed a little member, and boasteth great things. We see even now that out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing; these things ought not so to be. In a moment's rage, we are led by the devil, who holds special power over the tongues of men, to say things rashly, to speak out on those things about which we have no understanding. How much the more when we find our vision narrowed to the purposes of state, and the conduct of war! So it is with Maximilian, beloved child of God and rightful Emperor, who speaks out nobly, seeking to chastise wrongs and correct God's Church, though perhaps without the most charitable of tones, nor most humble of audiences. Seeing what he believes to be iniquity, Maximilian finds himself so filled with indignation before the Lord that he forgets himself, so fervent is his desire that justice be done! And thus far is he to be commended for his zeal for what is right and just, if not for his moderation.
We are overjoyed, however, that Maximilian may be assuaged once the facts are understood, once it is understood that justice has indeed been served. For the Church has granted Charles only those prerogatives which already existed in those domains which are his by right, namely some delegated prerogatives of appointment with regard to local clergymen. This right has Charles had for nearly a century now, and yet no complaint was raised by the Imperial Throne in all those years. If perhaps the Emperor perceives some irregularity or question with regard to the realms which Charles claims, we urge you, bring forth your evidence with all haste, that Charles may be made aware of the injustice (for he and you are as brothers, both honorable, pious Kings) and your differences may be resolved. (As for your hasty and immoderate (we hope that you will accept a gentle rebuke from your spiritual father) accusations, the Church has received no funds from Charles, nor does the Holy See lay claim to the lands of Italy, and so your charge that the Church has "sold" Italy is groundless: there is no competence in the Church no sale and no transaction took place.)
As for your charges of bribery, we will forgive you your rashness and boldness of tongue, but we are not pleased with your lack of humility in this matter; and yet we know that a monarch so wise and just as Maximilian would only take leave of himself in such a way if greatly moved in the cause of justice, however misunderstood the circumstances may be. Again, we say to you, if you believe that Charles' claims overstep his right, produce the evidence. As for the Holy See, we have granted nothing that did not already exist.
Let us put this unhappy moment behind us, for you are known to us and, as a man loves his own son, so too do we bear you all love. We pray for you constantly, and know that nothing is further from your heart than the division against which Christ warns us, and which is known to be inimical to the Body of Christ. You are a wise and pious king, this we know well.
TO: Juan I, King of Spain and Navarre
FROM: His Holiness, Gregorious XIII, Bishop of Rome, Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church, Servus Servorum Dei, Vicar of Christ
We are thrown into consternation regarding your most recent letter, for we are certain a forgery of the Royal Seal has been made, for surely, no King of Spain so pious, judicious, and wise as Juan, the First of that Name, would speak as one uninformed. Juan, we know, knows well that the Holy See neither forsakes nor abandons her children, nor does the Church sell what is not hers. If Juan has a complain against the lands claimed by Charles, only produce evidence that his claims are false and he shall deal with you as one deals with a brother, for you and he are brothers, children of God both, and Most Catholic Kings. Therefore, I pray you, work out your differences with charity and thanksgiving; slander not the Church, but remember that are preeminent among kings, and the evil of your tongue can unleash a greater evil. Behold how small a fire kindleth a great wood.
TO:Janos Corvinus
FROM: Gregory, Servant of the Servants of God
We pray God's blessings on you, for we have found a good man in Jersualem! Janos Corvinus is an example to his brothers of how to seek guidance on troubling matters gently, with Charity, and in the spirit of Christian humility. Bless you, Janos, favored child of God, and know that your fears are without foundation. We have granted the King of France no privileges more than he has had these past hundred years; only that he has the prerogative of appointment with regard to local clergy within his domain. If you believe some claim or other of his to be invalid, only step forward with proof, and entreat Charles in the name of Christian brotherhood, and it shall be resolved.
We pray constantly for you and your kingdom, and we rest well knowing the heights of your virtue.
Luckymoose
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TO: Il Papa Gregorious XIII
FROM: Juan I, King of Spain and Navarre, Protector of Italy
Father it is not my intention to upset you, but your own visions for Italy cannot come before God's chosen kings. Has my kingdom not been pious enough? Has my family caused a rift with the See? I am the king of a Christian realm, first and foremost I must live with my decisions and how they affect my people. We are very faithful to our Lord, and to Roma, however these times cause for doubt. Doubt in the decisions of Roma in regards to the Italian states. Our heavenly father would not allow such control over his subjects by one king, one man such as Carlos, who has repeatedly been aggressive against his brothers. Carlos has no right to the kingdoms of Italy, nor the princes or dukes, nor the clergy. Naples is mine by way of my father, the most pious of kings in this age, and as his son and a true believer I must protect my lands. No matter their current dissociation from my own. If his majesty Carlos makes pressing claims on Milan or Naples my own righteous kingdom will protect them. In the name of our Lord I know my stance to be true and just.
Agent 89
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To: His Holiness, Gregorious XIII
From: Emperor Maximilian I
Father, I apoligize if my words have upset you. The truth is, I was so grieved when I heard of your recent actions that in my grief I may have been hasty in my words. For it is true that I am greatly upset at recent events. His Holiness may have been swept away in his excitement for the Ecumenical Council, and passion for God, but I fear that your actions do not bode well. For is it truly wise for His Holiness, God's representative on earth, to deal in the politics of kings, and thus besmirch his heavenly hands. Father, while you may have believed you were only allowing Charles the right to appoint local clergymen, the truth is much different. For by your actions, you have acknowledged Charles as ruler of many Italian domains to which he has no right.
While I believe my brother Juan, King of Spain, in his claims towards Naples, my main concern is Charles' claim towards Milan and Genoa, domains rightfully ruled by the House of Sforza, the family of my new wife. While I do not deny that Charles has a distant relation to the extinct House of Visconti, but surely no one can pretend that Ludovico Sforza, direct descendant of Francesco I Sforza, is not the rightful ruler of Milan. Thus, we believe that to recognize Charles as Duke of Milan is both unwise of His Holiness.
The Hapsburgs will continue to support Milan in their war to stave off conquest by the French and reclaim their rightful domains. However, we have no wish to prematurely end our war against the heathen Turks in order to help defend Milan against French aggression. Therefore, we beg that your Holiness withdrawal his recognition of Charles as ruler of Milan and other domains which are not his by right.
HMS Vanguard
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We assume, England, that, due to your silence, you accept this deal, and that you agree to withdraw your troops, with a peaceful resolution.
The Strategos
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Alfonso II, King of Naples
From: Charles VIII, Emperor of France, Brittany, Burgundy, Genoa, and All Those Lands Which We Hold By Right
Truly it is said that a man with an orderly house is most blessed among all men. For your filial obedience has lifted many a great burden from me as it is written, our inward affection is more abundant toward you, whilst we remembereth the obedience of you all. But as a child growing no longer is dependent upon the mother's milk, but desires solid food, so too is it time for you to be weaned from our abundance. Therefore we acknowledge your right to the throne of Naples, independent of our own glorious dominions. So too do we henceforth acknowledge your right, and the right of your heirs, to choose one to reign after them according to the laws of Naples, having no need to be crowned by our hand. But know that though our realms are apart, you are ever first in our heart in love and we will thus undertake to guard and safe-keep you, not as a father protecting his feeble child but as an older brother seeking the good of the younger. But we know that no man will trouble you, for, since we set aside our Angevin claim, you alone hold claims and titles to Naples, doing so by both law and by blood.
We, Charles, write this with our own hand as an expression of the love and esteem we hold towards you. If you have any need, speak and we will fill it, not out of duty, but from our overflowing love towards you. Our wife greets you, as does all the nobles of our realm. We also greet you and send with them our prayers. Pray also for us, for the power of kings is nothing beside the King of Kings.
Farewell.
To His Holiness, Gregory, Vicarius Christi
From: Your Most Devoted Child, Charles, Emperor
We write to you to inform you that were return to you the powers of clerical appointment in Naples. For it is unseemly for us to hold those powers now that Naples is separate from us, as if we have any powers beyond our lands save the esteem our piety and love for God has earned us. But it grieves our heart most sorely that where love should abound we hear rumours only of jealousy and hatred, even from those who have the most cause to embrace us as brothers. But our heart is not shaken, for we know that truth and justice are on our side, for which we fight and for which we are hated. For which of our many good deeds provoke malicious rumors? Is it for the many funds and great effort we have expended to ensure that the church grows in purity, unity and love? Is it for seeking to restore the ancient rights and privileges of Genoa, which had been stamped out by a tyrants boot? Or is it for coming to the aide of Gian Sforza, Duke of Milan, when he besought our help against the tyrant Ludovico?
For truly men could understand if we ourselves sought to rule as Duke of Milan, on account of being the last of the line of the Visconti. And truly men could understand if Gian Sforza ruled as Duke of Milan, for he holds rights by birth of the Sforza line. But who is this Ludovico, and what are his merits, that he seeks to rule as Duke of Milan? For just as Satan sought to usurp God, and rule the earth in tyranny, so this man Ludovico seeks to usurp men better than him, and rule Milan in tyranny.
But we have wasted enough time responding to rumors which fly with the unlucky Eurus. Let any man who seeks to know the truth speak to us and we will expose the lies for all to see, just as the light of a candle is seen as so little of a thing once a man steps into the light of the sun. But we hope that these rumors are shunned by all God-fearing men, so that next time we speak we might give our time to matters of God and His Church, for truly those are subjects of which it is worthy to speak, being matters close to our heart, even as they are to you. Until that day we will continue to offer up our most unworthy prayers on your behalf. Pray also for us, that we might rule as Solomon by the power of the One Greater than Solomon, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Farewell.
From: Charles VIII, Emperor of France, Brittany, Burgundy, Genoa, and All Those Lands Which We Hold By Right
Truly it is said that a man with an orderly house is most blessed among all men. For your filial obedience has lifted many a great burden from me as it is written, our inward affection is more abundant toward you, whilst we remembereth the obedience of you all. But as a child growing no longer is dependent upon the mother's milk, but desires solid food, so too is it time for you to be weaned from our abundance. Therefore we acknowledge your right to the throne of Naples, independent of our own glorious dominions. So too do we henceforth acknowledge your right, and the right of your heirs, to choose one to reign after them according to the laws of Naples, having no need to be crowned by our hand. But know that though our realms are apart, you are ever first in our heart in love and we will thus undertake to guard and safe-keep you, not as a father protecting his feeble child but as an older brother seeking the good of the younger. But we know that no man will trouble you, for, since we set aside our Angevin claim, you alone hold claims and titles to Naples, doing so by both law and by blood.
We, Charles, write this with our own hand as an expression of the love and esteem we hold towards you. If you have any need, speak and we will fill it, not out of duty, but from our overflowing love towards you. Our wife greets you, as does all the nobles of our realm. We also greet you and send with them our prayers. Pray also for us, for the power of kings is nothing beside the King of Kings.
Farewell.
To His Holiness, Gregory, Vicarius Christi
From: Your Most Devoted Child, Charles, Emperor
We write to you to inform you that were return to you the powers of clerical appointment in Naples. For it is unseemly for us to hold those powers now that Naples is separate from us, as if we have any powers beyond our lands save the esteem our piety and love for God has earned us. But it grieves our heart most sorely that where love should abound we hear rumours only of jealousy and hatred, even from those who have the most cause to embrace us as brothers. But our heart is not shaken, for we know that truth and justice are on our side, for which we fight and for which we are hated. For which of our many good deeds provoke malicious rumors? Is it for the many funds and great effort we have expended to ensure that the church grows in purity, unity and love? Is it for seeking to restore the ancient rights and privileges of Genoa, which had been stamped out by a tyrants boot? Or is it for coming to the aide of Gian Sforza, Duke of Milan, when he besought our help against the tyrant Ludovico?
For truly men could understand if we ourselves sought to rule as Duke of Milan, on account of being the last of the line of the Visconti. And truly men could understand if Gian Sforza ruled as Duke of Milan, for he holds rights by birth of the Sforza line. But who is this Ludovico, and what are his merits, that he seeks to rule as Duke of Milan? For just as Satan sought to usurp God, and rule the earth in tyranny, so this man Ludovico seeks to usurp men better than him, and rule Milan in tyranny.
But we have wasted enough time responding to rumors which fly with the unlucky Eurus. Let any man who seeks to know the truth speak to us and we will expose the lies for all to see, just as the light of a candle is seen as so little of a thing once a man steps into the light of the sun. But we hope that these rumors are shunned by all God-fearing men, so that next time we speak we might give our time to matters of God and His Church, for truly those are subjects of which it is worthy to speak, being matters close to our heart, even as they are to you. Until that day we will continue to offer up our most unworthy prayers on your behalf. Pray also for us, that we might rule as Solomon by the power of the One Greater than Solomon, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Farewell.
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Luckymoose
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