I don't understand your toughts... You are saying native americans don't have a capital city? a code of laws?
They didn't have these things until introduced to them by Europeans/US-ians and becoming part of
our civilization.
Taking the example of Iroquois (modern day at the state of New York), the Iroquois are composed of 5 states, but one Onondaga was the most important (and have the privilege to be the last to vote in the councills) so we can understand the Iroquois with a capital: Onondaga.
The Onondaga are a tribe, not a state or a city.
the only difference to US code of laws is it isn't write down, since Iroquois don't have a write language, but that don't mean they don't have laws.
(1) A constitution is not the same thing as a code of laws.
(2) The Iroquois "Constitution" was more of a story than a set of rules for how their government was supposed to work; the rules that did exist mostly dictated rituals and ceremonies rather than legislative procedures.
US just exist for +-300 years in a world who have more then 5000 years of civilization.
And in those <300 years, we led the Industrial Revolution, fought the first-ever naval battle between two metal warships, split the atom, landed on the moon, developed entirely new communication media including film and the Internet (though not the Web, which was invented by a British guy working in Switzerland), and started a political revolution that spread to almost every country on Earth.
I would think Sumerians had way more impact globally then US. Since you are writing in a forum using latters who was just possible being invented because the Sumerians.
Actually, the Latin alphabet is derived from Greek, which is derived from Phoenician.
The Sumerians used cuneiform, which is no longer used.
Capital City: Does this mean in order for something to be a "civilization" it mustn't be a city state and must have had more than one city so as to proclaim a particular one as it's capital center?
No, that is not what it means. Work on your reading comprehension.
-Greece wouldn't be a civilization I guess.
Greece has been unified, or otherwise featured a capital city, at several times in its history. Remember the Athenian League, of which Athens was the capital? Remember Alexander the Great? Remember the country called Greece
that currently exists?
Code of Laws: Every single civ game has had code of laws as a technology that you have to research, implying from the very first game that civilization can be something that comes into being before a single codified set of laws is established.
That's one of the mistakes in the game series that I wish they'd get around to fixing.
Well-Defined National Borders: Oh so you mean the nation state? You do realize the nation state is historically a fairly new concept and that no such thing existed before the Westphalian Peace at the conclusion of the 30 Years War?
I would realize it, if it was true. It isn't.
Huge Impact On Worlds History: You don't consider these other cultures to have had a significant impact on history?
The Celts and Native American tribes didn't. Sumerians are debatable; we know they were the first civ to have certain technologies but we don't know if those techs spread elsewhere from Sumer or were invented independently in several places around the world.
The Sumerians are by scholarly definition considered to be the absolute FIRST CIVILIZATION in world history...
FYI what defines a civilization in the scholarly sense is that the culture in question has organized themselves around permanent cities and who's people are no longer nomadic but sedentary, has a stratified and hierarchical division of labour and class, and yeah that's basically it. So the Sumerians fit the definition.
Nobody is disputing any of that. Work on your reading comprehension.
I’d very much be alienated (as would be clear from the fact I already said I wouldn’t play a game with your civ list)
I never presented any civ list. Work on your reading comprehension.
and it’s rather plain from the other reactions to your posts here that I wouldn’t be alone.
The only thing that's plain is that multiple people in this thread need to learn how to read... or how to stop committing strawman fallacies. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you're doing this unintentionally.
Moderator Action: Please be civil in your discussions here. Stop trolling other site members. leif