Brave New World's 9 new Civs

[AessaSH]

What about the female leaders??
In vanilla we got 3 female leaders from the total of 18 leaders and from GnK and DLC we got 5 female leaders from the total of 16 new leaders..
So maybe we still get some female leader in this expansion too..

List of queens regnant..

Maybe they will include Maria I of Portugal, Tribhuwana of Majapahit, and Nzingha a Mbande of Ndongo/Angola in this expansion..

 

[Liex]

Australia and Canada are both part of the British Commonwealth, and they have the same queen that the UK does. Canada and Australia don't really have independence and are really just a part of the British Empire.

I'm not defending Australia or Canada inclusion, but that's just too extreme...

Maybe they will include Maria I of Portuga

I hope they don't. Portugal had some great kings, it'd be disappointing to see Maria the Mad instead of them.

 

[cybrxkhan]

I hope they don't. Portugal had some great kings, it'd be disappointing to see Maria the Mad instead of them.

They put in Wu Zeitian for China, even though there's 1304130581305981305 other Emperors/Presidents/Chairmen/Kings/Generals/Warlords/etc. from China that were equally or more qualified than her.


Still I do wonder what the female leaders would be. Jadwiga would have been a decent choice for Poland, I think, but we'll have to see what the new civs are, since at this point other than Poland, the only ones that seem to have some likelihood would be Assyria (based on the siege engine unit), as well as Zululand and Portugal (given they've been in other Civ games).

Now, if they add in Vietnam, which I think is still a long-shot and unlikely (but would be cool), they can have the Trung Sisters for a female leader, as your only two-headed two person "leader". Pretty marketable, I'd say - much more than Wu Zeitian.

 

[JFD]

Australia, maybe. And the only reason why I say that is because that part of the world is underrepresented, and there is not really anything else in that area that would be better than Australia.

Australia and Canada are both part of the British Commonwealth, and they have the same queen that the UK does. Canada and Australia don't really have independence and are really just a part of the British Empire.

Not true. The Queen is sovereign of Australia, Canada and New Zealand as the independent Monarch of those respective countries and her Queen-ship of the UK is irrelevant; therefore, whilst these countries share the same Queen, they do not share the same Monarch. That being said, none of these countries make for prominent inclusions; or at least over what could still yet be done.

My anticipations:

1. Portugal
2. Zulu
3. Belgium
4. Kongo
5. Indonesia/Majapahet
6. Italy? (although perfect for the Scramble for Africa scenario, this would remove a lot of important city-states from the game)
7. HRE? (could have a UA which encourages being the host of the world congress)

My hopes:

Venice
Lubeck as a City-State

 

[CivCube]

If Australia's in the game I'd much rather have Aborigines represented.

 

[Aloha]

I would like to see Inuit in BNW.

 

[AessaSH]

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I hope they don't. Portugal had some great kings, it'd be disappointing to see Maria the Mad instead of them.

Well.., including a madness queen in the game can make the game more colorful right??
Yeah, they can use another leader such as Joao II, their leader in Civ IV.. But, Firaxis seem like to choose unrelevant female leaders for the sake of aesthetics and market appeals..
So.., who know..

...the only ones that seem to have some likelihood would be Assyria (based on the siege engine unit), as well as Zululand and Portugal (given they've been in other Civ games).

Now, if they add in Vietnam, which I think is still a long-shot and unlikely (but would be cool), they can have the Trung Sisters for a female leader, as your only two-headed two person "leader". Pretty marketable, I'd say - much more than Wu Zeitian.

Apparently, Assyria have Semiramis as a female leader..

I love to see Trung Sister with the personality of Catherine in Civ IV.. Imagine if you was slapped by both of them..

 

[Kwami]

If we were to get another British territory added, I'd much rather have a Scottish civ.

I think "The Celts" are meant to represent Ireland, Scotland, and Whales.

 

[Liex]

Well.., including a madness queen in the game can make the game more colorful right??
Yeah, they can use another leader such as Joao II, their leader in Civ IV.. But, Firaxis seem like to choose unrelevant female leaders for the sake of aesthetics and market appeals..
So.., who know..

Now that you mention it, her Leaderscreen would be great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j_Ggxy88ZJs#t=2008s

 

[dagriggstar]

Given
- Poland

Scramble for Africa
- Portugal
- South Africa (Encompasses the Zulu, Boer states and modern South Africa)
- Kongo
- Ashanti empire or Kanem Bornu empire
- Italy

American civil war
- Sioux/Comanche/Apache

Wonder
- Sri Vijaya/Majapahit (hopefully not named Indonesia)

Wild card
- Timurids (trade connection)

 

[Menzies]

Australia, maybe. And the only reason why I say that is because that part of the world is underrepresented, and there is not really anything else in that area that would be better than Australia.

There are enough civs in North America, that I really don't have any interest in seeing Canada. Canada is pretty irrelevant on the global stage as far as civs go.

Australia and Canada are both part of the British Commonwealth, and they have the same queen that the UK does. Canada and Australia don't really have independence and are really just a part of the British Empire.

The Commonwealth isn't the British Empire, Australia and Canada have been independent for a long time, and whilst we still recognise the Queen as a monarch, it is only as a figurehead. Other Commonwealth nations include India, Ghana, South Africa, Pakistan etc. In modern terms it's just a collection of nations with historical connections to the Empire, it doesn't represent nations that are controlled by the British Empire.

That said, I don't like the idea of Canada or Australia, but with things like the Olympics within the World Congress, I get the impression that Australia might just be a wild card Civilization for it's sporting nature, history and achievements, not to mention covering a huge geographic area as well as it's modern influence within it's region and Economically on the World Stage, where Australia is the 12th largest Economy in the World, despite having only the 52nd highest population.

 

[sukritact]

Given
- Poland

Scramble for Africa
- Portugal
- South Africa (Encompasses the Zulu, Boer states and modern South Africa)
- Kongo
- Ashanti empire or Kanem Bornu empire
- Italy

American civil war
- Sioux/Comanche/Apache

Wonder
- Sri Vijaya/Majapahit (hopefully not named Indonesia)

Wild card
- Timurids (trade connection)

I'd agree with this list, but at least one of those civs will have to be changed to Assyria. Given that siege tower, it might as well be confirmed.

 

[dagriggstar]

I'd agree with this list, but at least one of those civs will have to be changed to Assyria. Given that siege tower, it might as well be confirmed.

Yeah, that slipped my mind, probably in for the Timurids then

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Here's my thoughts:

01. Poland...obviously!
02. Assyria, based on the siege tower in the screenshot
03. Portugal - scramble for Africa scenario; more or less expecting this one
04. Zulus - scramble for Africa scenario - plus, they are a staple civ in the series
05. Belgium - again, scramble for Africa scenario and the modern-day political importance of Brussels
06. Brazil - a much hoped-for civilization in past threads; a good possibility I think!
07. Khmer - I believe this expansion will see their re-introduction

I'm not sure about the last two. Whilst I'd love another Native American civ, I think that the Civil War scenario will use the city-state systems for Native American tribes; however, the reintroduction to the series of the popular Sioux would be welcomed, at least, by me. It would boost the chance of a Colonization-type scenario (possibly by a modder rather than Firaxis).

In my dreams, the last two would be Biblical Israel and Etrusca - but we know that's not going to happen! In reality, I think it would be another African civ and possibly another ancient civ (so that we ancient world civvers will have another reason to buy - not that I won't be first in line to pre-purchase when the chance comes around.)

 

[Dragonflow]

Given
- Poland

Scramble for Africa
- Portugal
- South Africa (Encompasses the Zulu, Boer states and modern South Africa)
- Kongo
- Ashanti empire or Kanem Bornu empire
- Italy

American civil war
- Sioux/Comanche/Apache

Wonder
- Sri Vijaya/Majapahit (hopefully not named Indonesia)

Wild card
- Timurids (trade connection)

I like that list. Very well picked civs imho.
I really hope that the Zulus will just be part of a bigger South African civ, because on their own they don't warrant inclusion other then being in-game since civ1.
It seems that even gameplay speaks against them as Assyria will most likely be the early game warmonger of this expansion, making the Zulus one trait already represented in game.

 

[Civciv5]

I'm hoping for:
-Indonesia
-Assyria
-Some Native American civ
-Khmer
-Tibet
-Kongo
-Morocco
-Portugal
As for female leaders, Tribhuwana was one of the greatest leaders Indonesia ever had, I could see her as thei leader. Ana Nzinga is controversial because she never actually ruled the Kingdom of Kongo,but a neighbouring country. Khri ma lod is possible for Tibet, but extremely unlikely as virtually nobody knows of her existence.
Portugal has a chance of a female leader, but a don't know any decent queen of them.
Semiramis is possible for Assyria, if they really want to add some female leaders.

 

[King William I]

I like that list. Very well picked civs imho.
I really hope that the Zulus will just be part of a bigger South African civ, because on their own they don't warrant inclusion other then being in-game since civ1.
It seems that even gameplay speaks against them as Assyria will most likely be the early game warmonger of this expansion, making the Zulus one trait already represented in game.

Unless Assyria is a culture civ. That still leaves the door wide open for The Zulu

 

[sukritact]

I see no way the Khmer can make it in unless it's our first 2UB or first UB+UI civ. The "Battle Elephant" UU has been way overdone! On the other hand, perhaps a unique civilian unit?

Still, I think they'll consider it well covered by Siam. I'd rather see Vietnam myself. The reintroduction of the Khmer would still be cool though!

 

[Pascal Nouma]

Sumerians; i just hope they won't forget about Sumerians just because they added Assyrians.

 

[Dragonflow]

Unless Assyria is a culture civ. That still leaves the door wide open for The Zulu

That is certainly possible, but the siege-tower UU seems to be pointing towards the Assyrians being a warfare civ.
Although a culture civ with an offensive UU could be an interesting thing.