C-IV Warlords SGOTM 04 Maintenance Thread
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the score could be enough
Gosha190
King
Not necessarily. For lurkers the information is available by visiting the team threads. The teams may prefer to keep such details away from the other teams. We don't publish *all* the stats for a game until it's over.
I'd need to hear from a few teams to know whether the players want this information to be available to the rest of the teams.
Big Pig
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Is it really any more spoiler-ish than seeing other teams scores? Ideally we should only be able to see other team's scores (and Gandhi scores) up to the point of our latest save - otherwise there is an advantage to slower playing teams.
(EDIT: although I appreciate that arranging this would not be easy....)
(EDIT: although I appreciate that arranging this would not be easy....)
pigswill
fly (one day)
What about displaying Gandhi's score instead of Ragnar's? (Don't know how much work this would entail for the moderators).
Information about teams' score/power/culture is vaguely spoilerish except that you don't have any idea how these were achieved until you've lost convincingly and can read other teams' threads.
Information about teams' score/power/culture is vaguely spoilerish except that you don't have any idea how these were achieved until you've lost convincingly and can read other teams' threads.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
I think we have two different concepts here. Strictly speaking, spoiler information would be some knowledge about the game you are playing that you should not have available yet ... location of a resource, what is hiding in the fog of war, who your opponents are that you have not met yet, etc.
But what we are talking about here is knowledge of more generic performance information from a game in a "parallel universe" ... score, culture and power of teams playing your position in another game. A somewhat different animal.
So the question is does this performance information from a parallel universe provide some unfair advantage to some teams? Does knowing what Ragnar's or Gandhi's score is really tell me where to move that caravel? Or whether to build that library or that axeman?
I think that the performance information does not really spoil the game, and to me part of the fun of the SGOTM is to watch the score graphs progress. I don't see adding Gandhi's score as any more spoiling than showing Ragnar's score, but then if most are bothered by that, I can live without it just as well.
dV
But what we are talking about here is knowledge of more generic performance information from a game in a "parallel universe" ... score, culture and power of teams playing your position in another game. A somewhat different animal.
So the question is does this performance information from a parallel universe provide some unfair advantage to some teams? Does knowing what Ragnar's or Gandhi's score is really tell me where to move that caravel? Or whether to build that library or that axeman?
I think that the performance information does not really spoil the game, and to me part of the fun of the SGOTM is to watch the score graphs progress. I don't see adding Gandhi's score as any more spoiling than showing Ragnar's score, but then if most are bothered by that, I can live without it just as well.
dV
Well could not have said that with better words
I do not really care, but I do not see that as spoiler as well. From my side this adds to the burden (did I already thank you for this one AlanH/Gyathaar ? Now it's done, and that's a huge "applause") of the organizer, but adds to the fun of the competition... Ok could be helpful for slow teams but I tend to think it is not (how do you know if Gandhi is on track for SPACE RACE anyway ???)
Harbourboy
Deity
I agree that we do not want to put any additional burden on our administrators who already do such a great job of running this whole thing for us anyway.
Gosha190
King
- The sacred truth! When we are paying conventional games, we can see score's of any other teams. And nobody names this fact as a spoiler!
Gosha190
King
Ralph_Jackson
Emperor
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Is there a spoiler thread opening for this game?
I love the spoiler threads from the previous games...but we definitely need a larger number of teams to submit them...the last SGOTM had a dismal number of spoilers.
I know it takes time, Geezers didn't submit one cause our designated writer ended up with other unexpected things taking up his time, but maybe it should start being required if you want to get a laurel, you need to submit a spoiler of some kind? Even if its not very good it'd be easier to read than going through a 400-1500 post thread after the fact to learn about the game.
I know it takes time, Geezers didn't submit one cause our designated writer ended up with other unexpected things taking up his time, but maybe it should start being required if you want to get a laurel, you need to submit a spoiler of some kind? Even if its not very good it'd be easier to read than going through a 400-1500 post thread after the fact to learn about the game.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
Unlike GOTM where folks share opening strategy freely, no one does for SGOTM. I think that the same philosophy makes posting a mid-game spoiler less popular. So end game spoilers would be the rule, except that now the overlapping SGOTMs create a time pinch.
Might need to write a short summary paragraph intended for the spoiler with each turnset ... then just stick em together for the spoiler (edit out the excess).
Then, some players are time pinched enough to play or post, much less write ...
dV
Speaking of which, as well as discussing the spoiler options we have also been reconsidering whether overlapping the SGOTMs is really a good idea. When this game started, several teams deferred discussing it or playing it until they had finished SGOTM 3. But the overlap was only a couple of weeks.
How do players feel about this now? Would it be better to let this game finish - albeit with a reasonably tight deadline - and then start a vanilla one? Or should we start the vanilla SGOTM 5 within the next week or three, and have it overlap the current game?
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