C-IV Warlords SGOTM 04 Maintenance Thread

[bobrath]

I guess it in large part depends on how many teams/players intend to take part in both vanilla and warlords. If there is very little overlap in personnel then overlapping the games may not be an issue.

 

[unkle]

From my perspective, overlapping is tough to handle. I am still in SGOTM3 and not yet in the mood for SGOTM4. But it is doable... I'd rather have tighter deadlines (well... not too tight ).

 

[Sam_Yeager]

Looking at the last three SGOTMs several teams have finished within two and a half months and the vast majority within three months. Personally I think two months is too short a timescale whereas three months is realistic.

If a new SGOTM starts in the next two or three weeks then I would be inclined to give it a miss. Either our team would have to start playing two SGOTMs or else delay until we finish the current game. However if we do that then we have even less time to finish the next game before yet another one starts and so it would go on.

I know some teams would not find it a problem and wonder what all the fuss is about, but I don't think that is the case for the majority of teams.

 

[Harbourboy]

I think I could happily start a new SGOTM in the next few weeks as I find it does not take up that much time given that you only play 10 turns every week or so - plus any time you can devote to discussion and tactics.

But if a new one did not start for a while, then that's fine because with GOTM, WOTM, and HoF - there is plenty of other stuff to keep me busy.

The big question is really how much overlap there is between vanilla and warlords. Whilst I would play both, I would find it easier to just concentrate on Warlords.

 

[Thrallia]

I would personally find little problem with an overlap, but as I'd want to play both games on Geezers, it could be a team problem.

Perhaps, since many teams finish within 2 months, and the general deadline seems to be 3 months, perhaps have them just overlap by a month. I don't think we want zero overlap, but having an overlap of more than that might cause some teams that would otherwise play both to pass on one of them

 

[Niklas]

Those of us who are sadly WL-deprived don't want to wait too long for another playable game... (although my work situation says it's probably a good thing if there's a delay )

 

[civ_steve]

I think holding separate contests for Warlords and Vanilla practically requires an overlap, otherwise each type will have no competition going while the other type finishes. It would be hard to keep a team together that was playing only Warlords, if each Warlords SG had a 2 or 3 month down time while the Vanilla SG finished.

 

[BLubmuz]

My opinion is that a game every 2 month can be good, and a player can play with 2 different teams, if the team doesn't want be too busy.
For SG4 we was finishing SG3, and no pre-game discussions about SG4, we was too concentrated on our rush.

Also many people doesn't play (or own) Warlords, and more than 4 months between the games is too much.

 

[pigswill]

Would it be worth considering repeating sgotm3 and running the same game with different game versions. When Beyond theSword comes out that will complicate things further.

To a large extent it depends on the amount of work the mods can sustain. I'd rather play a well planned and well run game every three months than a lower quality game every month.

 

[AlanH]

I notice some players use the Search facility occasionally to find posts by other players. I recommend you avoid doing this for players from other SGOTM teams, in case you see parts of their SGOTM thread posts in the search results.

 

[DaviddesJ]

I notice some players use the Search facility occasionally to find posts by other players. I recommend you avoid doing this for players from other SGOTM teams, in case you see parts of their SGOTM thread posts in the search results.

This happens sometimes, whatever I search for. I just don't look at those snippets, when they come up. It seems a bit much to say that SGOTM players should never use the forum search facilities. I'm not sure why a search for a player would be any more or less likely to cause this problem, than any other kind of search.

 

[Sam_Yeager]

I've found that the best thing is to use the advanced search where I can select which forums to search in. That way I avoid searching in the SGOTM forums and inadvertently seeing posts from current games.

 

[cabert]

I've found that the best thing is to use the advanced search where I can select which forums to search in. That way I avoid searching in the SGOTM forums and inadvertently seeing posts from current games.

that's what I do too
not only is it a sure way to avoid the not wanted tripping in a competitive thread, but the results are also a lot nearer to what you're looking for

 

[AlanH]

It seems a bit much to say that SGOTM players should never use the forum search facilities.

I'm not barring SGOTM players from using Search. It was meant as a "recommendation" to think about what you are searching for and where, based on my monitoring of forum activity. Restricting searches to non-SGOTM forums as suggested above will eliminate the problem.

I'm not sure why a search for a player would be any more or less likely to cause this problem, than any other kind of search.

A search for posts by a specific competing player is almost certain to bring up SGOTM threads. Probability close to 100% of finding quite a few posts you shouldn't be reading unless you restrict the forums you search.

A search on a specific key word set *may* bring up SGOTM threads. If you only get one or two hits on SGOTM threads then they are fairly easy to ignore. Sure, if the topic you are researching is a hot one in your team it may also be hot in other teams, bringing the probability up to a high level.

 

[Ozbenno]

I think holding separate contests for Warlords and Vanilla practically requires an overlap, otherwise each type will have no competition going while the other type finishes. It would be hard to keep a team together that was playing only Warlords, if each Warlords SG had a 2 or 3 month down time while the Vanilla SG finished.

I agree with this for the teams that are purely warlords/vanilla. If the time frames are beng tight with two overlapping games on for other teams, then the time frame for a game may be able to increase to 4 months, with a game starting every 2 months.

 

[da_Vinci]

I've found that the best thing is to use the advanced search where I can select which forums to search in. That way I avoid searching in the SGOTM forums and inadvertently seeing posts from current games.

Is there a way to use advance search to search the game of the month forum but not the two succession subforums? I was using advanced search to look in GOTM to see whats been discussed about using Vista for GOTM, but it pulled up SGOTM posts as well.

dV

 

[AlanH]

You may be able to achieve that by unchecking "Also search child forums". But I haven't tested it.

Note that I've not seen anything concerning Vista in the GOTM forums

 

[eldar]

The latest WOTM requires HOF Mod 2.08.004. Will we be able to use the new version of the mod for this game's saves?

 

[Ozbenno]

You will have to keep using 2.08.003 for the SGOTM and 2.08.004 for the WOTM. HoF mod game saves are only able to be used in the version they are created in.

You can have both versions installed at the same time (in fact currently I have all 4).

 

[eldar]

I know I can have >1 installed at once, it's just I'm lazy and I don't much like the thought of having to swap between mods depending on the game I'm playing My default start up is always with an HOF Mod for this very reason.