Captain2 and Canuck3 present: Conquest

[Symphony D.]

lurker's comment: Uh... how is that going to work at all? A Roman Legion isn't going to stand up well against, say, a WWII-era Soviet Army. Or a 21st century American strike group. What's to stop everyone from just picking the most advanced weapons possible?

 

[Captain2]

the rules, everythings the same in strength, its just for customation that you can pick any time period

for example, you want to be the romans legion, they can still tie with a Soviet soldier, its just a way of getting your favorite units

 

[Toteone]

My United States of America isn't stronger then Canada??

 

[Captain2]

no, if we went for real millitary size, china and Russia would beat everyone, so everyone starts out the same

 

[Toteone]

I must inform you that regretteably I am leaving this NES since it's not what I thought it was.

PS. Imho US forces would smoke China and Russia and force them to the negotiations table if it ever came to a conventional slug-out.

 

[Captain2]

meh you dont regret it or you wouldnt be doing it, BTW china alone could give US trouble, add russia, Red Washington

btw this will be closed because canuck and I found something we'd rather do, namely www.nationstates.net, so really this thing will be closed and i'll go back to writing my fourth reich story for the stories section

 

[Toteone]

*miffed* -_-
I was sorry that I had to leave your NES. That's what I meant by 'regretteably'. I'm experimenting with language.
+++ the fact that I did actually still want to play the game. I simply wouldn't be able to enjoy the game with Canada posing a major military challenge for the US to overcome. It's too unrealistic for my taste to use a real world map and set the strength levels to 0-1.

You seem to have a little problem with players talking back at you.

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Red Washington? How would the Chinese attack the USA? Their Ming submarines are hardly capable of defeating the US navy and airforce. The decrepid Russian navy wouldn't be able to cross the Atlantic before sinking to it's watery depths. And how would they ferry their troops? I am assuming that they do not have allies in Americas, but even so: nothing in the Americas can challenge the US on their home ground and the Russian and Chinese navies are laughable compared to the US. The USA would not be able to win a conventional war against Russia and China on their home ground but there is absolutely no chance modern Russia and China would be able to invade the US. Was isn't just about how many zillion men you can conscript.

If China, Russia and the US were nations bordering each other on the same continent with only flat plains in between then I'd agree with you that a Chinese-Russian victory may be realistic.

The only way to make Washington red is to win a nuke-out and station troops there in the unlikely event that Earth survives the war and the core elements of Russia and China are spared. Not that anyone would care much by then.
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PS. You'll disappoint your players if you just drop the game suddenly like a dead lemming. Less people will want to join any future attempt.
PPS. In my experience, the closed games at Nationstates are best and the funny ones of course, the ones with humor.

 

[Captain2]

Canada posing a major military challenge for the US to overcome

well its a game to make everything fair, and i'm not going to bend over for someone just because they want something their way, Canada and USA start out equal, so who cares, i'm going to end this because canada is a human player and you cant just walk over him, besides if you think canada beating US is impossible, check out 1812, and after this i doubt i'll see a point to make a new NES

 

[Toteone]

But I'm leaving so you won't have anyone wanting to walk over Canada or fighting her to the death. If a US players is a major loss I'm willing to PM around for a bit.
PS. Sorry for leaving if that's what made you kill this NES. Thanks for offering a NES'ing alternative, it was looking like a good mix of board and reg. NESes.

1812 would be possible, I guess I just assumed we were in the modern age.

 

[Toteone]

Did I kill this NES with a poorly timed bailout?
*thinks*
Nah... they flaked off and left.

OK, so saying he had a problem with talking back was going too far, but they did have problems with handling constructive criticism as evidenced with Xen's comments.

I think I've got NESers survival guilt... Lol
*end*

 

[Captain2]

uh huh, nah we just dont handle people who want us to change big parts of the game for no reason, and then people who leave because I refuse to give advantages, this died because I frankly dont give a ****, I have other things to do. all you did was cause me something to delay the game from starting sooner and if it had started, might still exist

 

[Toteone]

'Annoying sing-song girly voice' Oh no, those players are complaining at faults in my game! Stupid, stupid person; he doesn't even want to join. *sniff* Whaa-at? A player quit the game because he thinks... it's unrealistic! No it is NOT! He wants advantages! *sniff* *sniff* *sniffle* I don't want to play anymore! I'm not Modding, so noone else gets a game either now. Oh... it's it is his FAULT! And his! Yeaah, they complained!

Actually I can understand the part about not wanting to spend time on Mod'ing a NES if you're not happy about it.

Don't take it personal (I wanted to use the italisk for something like that for some time now.), I think it's rather cool you wanted to make a NES in the first place, it's just a bit trashy to quit and blame it on someone else.

 

[Captain2]

I quit because it fell apart, do you see anyone else even talking in here?

 

[Toteone]

No, noone at all, kind of noticed it a few posts ago. I'm stringing it along because I like the rules and the maps and I felt a bit guilty.

 

[Canuck3]

lol you stupid american you still think your the world power. well sorry to say china is now however they shure dont act like it. anyways they might not be able to destroy the US navy however they have the factory's and the people to build it up to beat the US no porb. As well your soldier's are poorly trained and the american people can never match up to the Candain's smarts.

meh all america now's is how to break thing's with there heads. Your country is responsable for world destruction and dont say you are rebuilding it. Canadain force's was glad to fight side by side with the americains however when the fight was over there was rebuilding to be done and america only's knows how to destroy and not rebuild so they went off to fight another war in Iraq and left Canada to rebuild the afganistan. when Canada said they will not rebuild Iraq for them america thought they could....well there is a big mistake now in most parts of Iraq it teeters on the brink of civil war..and i guess america know's all about civil war

LOL after america lost to Canada and britain in 1812 they had no one else to fight so they desided to fight eachother...maybe instead of us Canadain's puting up with you americains we should just close the trade boarder's...and we will watch the american ecomomy crumble...shure we will lose some but nothing like are strong relactionships with china cant fix.

America will lose soft wood hard wood all are oils that other countrys im shoure would be glad to take off our hands. are fishing and wheat well whach your bread price's rise...and eroupe's country's are asking for our wheat so no lose there

o and by they way it is properly spelled coulor not your silly american way color...lol to lazy to put the u in

so i just have to say to america

go manifest this destiny ===0000===)----

 

[Toteone]

You have erred. I am a Norwegian-Chinese (Hong Kong) person. Not that I count nationality as a part of my identity.

:Lol:
Nice try at 'wounding' me 'personally' though, just too bad you didn't even hit the broad side of a barn.

oh and I write colour sometimes but I like using different accents, too bad you're just too closeminded about it
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Once again my point is that in pure terms of military strength Russia and China would not be able to defeat the USA and Canada would most certainly not prove victorious in a military conflict.
Of course you had to go and construe the ability to launch a naval assault and the comparison of the population base of the USA and Canada as a political argument and an attack on your values... go figure.

PS. You're a doodoo-head.
PPS. I am willing to continue a flame-war.
Don't take it personally if you come off the worse and don't worry about me; your aim is so off I'm not worried about exposing myself to your attempts to stab at my nationality and opinions with a candlestick.

 

[Canuck3]

i dont care if you are from the moon. the point is that china has a bigger military better trained soilder and more factory's that are right nowm producing crappy little plastice toy's but can be turned into a war factory china alone can defeat america.

i will give you russia, america can destroy them but with resistence of course...its not like taking a little third world peace of crap in the middle of no wear. however the americans had trouble fighting the north vietnamese...like comon there...well them nomads...its not like the chinese havent deffeted americains before like at keria they sent 100,000 soldiers over the boarder and that was to them just like sending one divsion and they wooped the americains ass.

 

[Toteone]

PPPS: You're an american too, pity you didn't notice that.

I guess Canadians (excluding outside company) are just too stupid to figure out a proper acronym to name their southern neighbors by.
Any big movie busters from the north? Any great writers? Oh, I could name a few good artists and webcomic writers but I would rather leave the challenge to you.

Is it true that you are an inbred society? I hear you do terrible things to first-world children there (thanks Goober).
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Captain said China and Russia would mean a red Washington not a minor victory in an Asian battle. *deflects argument*

The whole argument was over the issue of the USA being nearly equal with Canada. Good gamebalancing, not consistant with reality.

(I'm going offline.)

Note: If you don't care what nationality I am then why did you write two paragraphs just to insult it?
I guess Canadians simply have an inferiority complex... not too much colour in their society...

 

[Toteone]

Oh sure! Run from a fight! That's all you Canadians are good at!
...except maybe at Caen...

 

[Captain2]

we dont run, WW1 and WW2 were both wars that proved canadians were the storm troopers of the allied forces, the germans would try to avoid canadian divisions as much as possible, and dont belittle to accomplishments of the canadian forces they died just as much at D-day as any american

btw unlike canuck i'm not anti-american just anti-republican