Check Your Privilege

Well, the pedophilia is happening for many reasons, but it's continuing to happen because the church was and probably still is in the habit of sweeping allegations under the carpet, instead of going after priests who are sexual predators. Nope, they just move them around to another parish and "problem solved".

The church allows it to happen, and so it happens.
 
Owen Glyndwr said:
You can travel to another state, but depending on where you live that just might not be viable. The US is huge and the most restrictive states are also among the largest geographically. If you live in Tupelo, MS, the nearest clinic is in Memphis, TN which is a 2 hour drive, or Jackson, MS which is a 3 hour drive. Both have mandatory waiting periods - Tennessee's is for 48 hours. The nearest state that doesn't have a mandatory waiting period is Florida, which has clinics in Gainesville, or Jacksonville, both 9-hour drives, or Illinois, which has a clinic in Granite city which is a 6-hour drive.
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As restrictive as that all sounds, it doesn't sound insurmountable. If this was something someone had to do once a month to get their latest supply of medication or something then I would agree that it was terrible, but for a (presumably) once or twice in a lifetime procedure... doesn't sound TOO bad. It doesn't sound a million miles away from the kind of bureaucracy I've had to go through for service on the NHS over here, only with the added expense and long distances that I'd kind of assume were standard in the US anyway.
 
warpus said:
Well, the pedophilia is happening for many reasons, but it's continuing to happen because the church was and probably still is in the habit of sweeping allegations under the carpet, instead of going after priests who are sexual predators. Nope, they just move them around to another parish and "problem solved".

The church allows it to happen, and so it happens.
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Individuals allow it to happen. Church doctrine doesn't justify it.

As for what is happening now ... I hope it's stopped.
 
Owen Glyndwr said:
You can travel to another state, but
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Can mandatory waiting period be exceeded? Like you come on Friday, and there is a 72 hrs waiting period, so you gotta go back home, and you schedule next visit for Wednesday next week, which is convenient for you?

Besides, I spend about 1 to 1.5 hours driving to/from work (so it's up to 3 hrs there and back), which is some 10 miles away, and that time is just taken by heavy traffic. A 5 hrs ride where you actually drive, not wait for the car in front of you move another 10 ft., is in fact a pleasant thing, no?

Finally, even it the lady in question doesn't drive, that's what men are for she might have friends, or relatives, or acquaintances who will give her a lift. After all, it's not an every day thing...

I mean, that's if there's no public transport at all. Like buses or trains or something... I don't know... stagecoach?

Edit: crosspost with Manfred Belheim
 
abradley said:
Everything.

The church doesn't have rules and doctrines that say massacres are good, or that pedophilia is ok, and on and on. These thing happen in spite of church's teachings because the church is made up of humans, with our flaws.
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You're right. Hitchens does seem to fail in that department also. Sorry for being dense.
 
Farm Boy said:
You just described as the principal road blocks the crap people go through to be employed, or do anything, outside our munificent metropolises. No crap you have to have a car to do anything. No crap you can't get significant treatment for any condition or an abortion while you work a normal person job. This is not news. This is why the plan B pills exist. Because people outside where nearly all the damned services are can't effectively use those services. And it's not getting easier. The more regulations we toss onto say, new cars for example, drives up the complexity and ownership of transportation. It makes them age worse. It inhibits people so that the people who need personal transport the least feel better about one of the options for transport that they have.
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We have this in the UK (though no doubt on a smaller scale; 'remote' means something different when you can fit your country into Texas and still make change), though people often forget. I remember living in rural Gloucestershire along with an old and less than eco-friendly Land Rover, and being accosted in town by one of those people standing around handing out leaflets about saving the planet. She was talking about how fantastic public transport (a bus every ten minutes in Gloucester!) was for the environment, and reacted with distate when I said that I drove my (again, large and fuel-hungry) car to get around. Where I lived at the time, two buses a day stopped within half a mile, and you then had to walk another couple of miles through the town in which they stopped in order to get to the train station that would take you into the city. A few months later, there was some quite serious flooding in our area, and I was using the car to get through blocked roads (you can't get a Smart Car through two feet of standing water!) and drop off food and water at the neighbours'. As a rule, things work in cities, and nature generally stays under control. People who get too used to that sometimes forget that it doesn't always happen elsewhere.
 
Manfred Belheim said:
As restrictive as that all sounds, it doesn't sound insurmountable. If this was something someone had to do once a month to get their latest supply of medication or something then I would agree that it was terrible, but for a (presumably) once or twice in a lifetime procedure... doesn't sound TOO bad. It doesn't sound a million miles away from the kind of bureaucracy I've had to go through for service on the NHS over here, only with the added expense and long distances that I'd kind of assume were standard in the US anyway.
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When you are the one who has to go through the ordeal of an abortion, then you can be the one who decides whether access is "too bad" or not.

To be honest, abortions should be treated as routine medical procedures that are performed in any doctor's office or hospital (depending on the method of abortion). It should be as easy as getting a vaccination or a prescription drug, and it should be paid for by the state like all medical procedures should be. This is a matter of women's health; their lives, their livelihoods are on the line here. We can do no less.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
To be honest, abortions should be treated as routine medical procedures that are performed in any doctor's office or hospital (depending on the method of abortion). It should be as easy as getting a vaccination or a prescription drug, and it should be paid for by the state like all medical procedures should be. This is a matter of women's health; their lives, their livelihoods are on the line here. We can do no less.
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Well, I think exactly the same*, but it is what it is so far, and it does not seem nightmarish.
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*And, in order to reduce the number of unnecessary abortions, there should be a) easily available (if not mandatory) parental training programs, b) a massive comprehensive maternity support system, and c) well designed parentless youth upbringing institutions.
 
Daw said:
Well, I think exactly the same*, but it is what it is so far, and it does not seem nightmarish.
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*And, in order to reduce the number of unnecessary abortions, there should be a) easily available (if not mandatory) parental training programs, b) a massive comprehensive maternity support system, and c) well designed parentless youth upbringing institutions.
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They're literally sending women to prison for "feticide," including miscarriages. Some states, like Texas, have only a couple abortion clinics in the entire state, with each being responsible for providing health services to millions of women. Congress is perpetually trying to defund Planned Parenthood, and both harassment and terrorist attacks against PP and abortion clinics are common enough to warrant special guards at their doors.

That's the very definition of nightmarish if you're a woman.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
They're literally sending women to prison for "feticide," including miscarriages. Some states, like Texas, have only a couple abortion clinics in the entire state, with each being responsible for providing health services to millions of women. Congress is perpetually trying to defund Planned Parenthood, and both harassment and terrorist attacks against PP and abortion clinics are common enough to warrant special guards at their doors.

That's the very definition of nightmarish if you're a woman.
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The federal government is trying to defund planned parenthood even though BY LAW none of the money they receive from the federal government is allowed to be associated in any way whatsoever with abortion.

Also the states are trying to take away what money they are getting which isn't the state's to take away in the first place.
 
Shock as men tell women that their gender specific issues and problems don't matter/don't impact upon them
 
Can men get abortions, Daw?
 
No, men can't get abortions. But men can find themselves with women who have got abortions and were traumatized (psychologically more often than physically) in the process and so men have to deal with the side effects and post effects thereof.

So, although women take the main damage, of course, which is unfair enough, it is also unfair to say that they are the only ones who take the blow.

I mean, the fact that men and women are impacted differently by different aspects of the problem does not reduce the problem itself to being one gender specific only. It's broader than that.

Edit: Unwanted kids of both genders who are being raised by mothers who hate them and think the kids ruined their lives by mere existence is yet another part of the same problem.
 
Ryika said:
"Not believing in something that has no evidence is the very definition of superstitious nonsense!" - nice
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you're playing there.
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You missed the point. Snipping a partial sentence will do that. It isn't "not believing in something that has no evidence" It is their belief that atheism means they are smart for which there is no evidence...but which they wholeheartedly believe.

Ultimately, the atheist is often far more aggressive about pushing their beliefs and demanding agreement, and far more annoying. Then when people respond negatively they cry "oppression."
 
Indeed, I misinterpreted that statement. I apologize for the snarky comment then.
 
Ryika said:
Indeed, I misinterpreted that statement. I apologize for the snarky comment then.
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No prob...as snarky comments go I thought the use of the game card was really clever.
 
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