Christian priest defends gay people

[Peri]

Will you also show Christian charity by not ramming your views on homosexuality down everyone's throat?

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

You don't have to engage in sexual acts with members of the opposite sex to pertain to a certain sexuality. One can be gay without ever once having sex with a member of the same sex. Even if you never have sex with a man again (I thought you were a virgin?), you cannot change your bisexuality. That is, you claimed you were once a bisexual.

One cannot change one's sexuality, one can only suppress it. Perhaps forever, perhaps not. Suppression, however, leads to frustration, and frustration leads to anger, which we are seeing on display here today.

 

[GenMarshall]

Will you also show Christian charity by not ramming your views on homosexuality down everyone's throat?

Sorry, I have as much of right to say my views on homosexuality as much as you do.

 

[Turner]

Sorry, I am not the one advocating for abortions, murders, unethical bio research, and other things which are seen as a sin in the Bible.

Really? Where does it say that?

Still waiting for an answer.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Unfortunately, no.

Then that means that allthough you might loathe homosexual behaviour you cannot deny them the right to act gay in public. You can try by voting for candidates who supprt your view to get it outlawed but untill it is, you have to tolerate it

Well I thought you already answered your own question. But you don't have the right to deny me the freedom of speech.

Disco! In the same way, you don't have the right to deny the right homosexuals have to display their sexuality.

I get the feeling you understand all this but that sometimes your emotions get the best of you.

 

[Peri]

Well CG, you cant complain when your views are refuted, ridiculed and rubbished can you?

 

[Turner]

Well I thought you already answered your own question. But you don't have the right to deny me the freedom of speech.

*sigh* Another thing you don't understand.

 

[GenMarshall]

Ziggy Stardust - Sorry, I cannot tolerate homosexuals showing public displays of affection and I cannot tolerate homosexuals displaying their imoral sexuality in my face.

One cannot change one's sexuality, one can only suppress it. Perhaps forever, perhaps not. Suppression, however, leads to frustration, and frustration leads to anger, which we are seeing on display here today.

Realy, cause I did changed my sexuality. Thanks to Jesus and good old self discipline. All I simply did was renounced bisexualiy and said bye to it and return to heterosexualiy. I will still be a heterosexual and will always be a heterosexual.

Really? Where does it say that?

Its in there. Abortions, murders, and ESCR goes against the "Thou shall not kill commandment"

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

Well, to be fair to CG, I'm not comfortable with public displays of affection period, that is outside established places (disco, bedroom, etc) but maybe I've spent too much time in a buddhist culture.

 

[Turner]

Its in there. Abortions, murders, and ESCR goes against the "Thou shall not kill commandment"

Right. Old testament. Where in the new testament does it say to do that?

 

[GenMarshall]

Right. Old testament. Where in the new testament does it say to do that?

Please see my related post in the "What if you were in a Islamic country?". I do not like repeating myself in two separate threads.

 

[Peri]

Realy, cause I did changed my sexuality. Thanks to Jesus and good old self discipline. All I simply did was renounced bisexualiy and said bye to it and return to heterosexualiy. I will still be a heterosexual and will always be a heterosexual.


Its in there. Abortions, murders, and ESCR goes against the "Thou shall not kill commandment"

Well changing sexuality through external means rarely ends well.
But you said you dont go with the OT didnt you?

 

[Peri]

Please see my related post in the "What if you were in a Islamic country?". I do not like repeating myself in two separate threads.

It would be polite to provide a link.

 

[Trajan12]

It would be polite to provide a link.

Second one down on the OT main page.

 

[GenMarshall]

It would be polite to provide a link.

This one here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4795730&postcount=87

 

[Turner]

Please see my related post in the "What if you were in a Islamic country?". I do not like repeating myself in two separate threads.

Hey, you're the one who jumped into that thread and started going about there the same way you are here.

 

[Peri]

Ive found it. I just didnt recognise the tile CG gave it.

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

Realy, cause I did changed my sexuality. Thanks to Jesus and good old self discipline. All I simply did was renounced bisexualiy and said bye to it and return to heterosexualiy. I will still be a heterosexual and will always be a heterosexual.

Like I said, you don't have to have sex with men anymore to be a bisexual. Unless you have completely wiped the thought of homosexual relations from your mind, stopped looking at men attractively, and ceased all *private* activities you will still have bisexual tendencies. Even if you manage to do all of that, which is not likely regardless of the stance you've made here, you'll still be a bisexual because no one can change their sexuality, only they can repress it.

Sweeping something under the carpet doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[GenMarshall]

Unless you have completely wiped the thought of homosexual relations from your mind, stopped looking at men attractively, and ceased all *private* activities you will still have bisexual tendencies.

Sorry, but I explicitly said that I find the attraction of men repulsive and disgusting. And I have whiped every shread of homosexual relations and ceaced all private activities that is related to bisexual tendencies.

Even if you manage to do all of that, which is not likely regardless of the stance you've made here, you'll still be a bisexual because no one can change their sexuality, only they can repress it.

Sorry, I will have to disagree with you on that one. I will never be a bisexual. I am a heterosexual and I will always identify myself as a heterosexual whether you like it or not. I changed my sexuality through the help of Jesus Christ and self-discipline!

Sweeping something under the carpet doesn't mean it isn't there.

Sorry, I shreaded and burnt it forever. I did not swept anything under the carpet. Now quit trying to falsely out me. I am happy as a heterosexual so get used to it.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Ziggy Stardust - Sorry, I cannot tolerate homosexuals showing public displays of affection and I cannot tolerate homosexuals displaying their imoral sexuality in my face.

Then I'm afraid it's you who better either stay indoors or simply ignore it, because as it is, you can't forbid them to show public displays of affection either.

Ultimately those are the options you are giving yourself, and they are limiting.