CIV Gold BTS - Technical Support

[Wyz_sub10]

As noted by JEELEN, it should be 'Seleucus' not 'Seleukia'.

 

[Agent327]

As noted by JEELEN, it should be 'Seleucus' not 'Seleukia'.

Ermm... sorry, but Seleucus is a guy (one of Alexander's generals, actually, Seleukos in Greek), after which were named the Seleucids.

EDIT: And disregard post # 18.

 

[Wyz_sub10]

Ermm... sorry, but Seleucus is a guy (one of Alexander's generals, actually, Seleukos in Greek), after which were named the Seleucids were named.

EDIT: And disregard post # 18.

I realize that. But the area was also known as the "Kingdom of Seleucus" for that reason, so it seems like an appropriate short form.

Please feel free to suggest an alternative.

 

[Fierabras]

I disagree. I'm aware that the folder name is misspelled as Seleukia, but I have consciously chosen to keep the in-game names Seleukeia and Seleukid Empire which was used by Aranor, who made this civ in the first place and who based it on the names that are being used in http://www.europabarbarorum.com/

See http://www.europabarbarorum.com/factions_arche-seleukeia.html for this case specifically.

Edit: just read JEELEN's argument about Seleucia being a city. You could say the same about Babylon and likewise for the Babylonian Empire the short description is Babylon.

 

[Agent327]

The comparison is faulty: Babylon-Babylonia OK, but Seleucids is as short as its gonna get. (The derivation is the same as with the Ptolemees or the lesser known Antigonids. Also, not many people even know Seleukeia was a Seleucid city; Antioch is much better known. I'd agree Seleukeia was the old capital, but then you could also shorten Macedonia to Pella, etc.
Anyway, I just mentioned Seleukeia was a city, not a civ - as opposed to Babylon or Rome. I have no objection to the name, just thought I'd point it out.)

PS: Seleukia is misspelled indeed: the Greek name is Seleukeia, the Roman name Seleucia.

 

[Fierabras]

Ok, I'll try again. For the Babylonian Empire in BTS:

TXT_KEY_CIV_BABYLON_DESC = Babylonian Empire
TXT_KEY_CIV_BABYLON_SHORT_DESC = Babylon
TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_BABYLON = Babylon

I followed the same guideline for Seleukeia. Seleukia as a city was at the heart of the Seleucid Empire. Like other city states I adhered to the naming convention Firaxis uses. I don't think your example about Macedonia is very accurate because Pella never had the same kind of city state status. Furthermore, I prefer to refrain from using the plural adjective (Seleucids), unless no good alternative is available.

 

[Mohatma]

There are a few text bugs in 4.0 that I noticed:
In Sviatoslav's page:

He shaved his head and his beard or possibly just had a wispy beard ) but wore a bushy mustache...

In Tamoio's page they are mistyped as Tamoio in the description, and priest king's page doesn't say which civ he belongs to.

 

[Agent327]

Ok, I'll try again. For the Babylonian Empire in BTS:

TXT_KEY_CIV_BABYLON_DESC = Babylonian Empire
TXT_KEY_CIV_BABYLON_SHORT_DESC = Babylon
TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_BABYLON = Babylon

I followed the same guideline for Seleukeia. Seleukia as a city was at the heart of the Seleucid Empire. Like other city states I adhered to the naming convention Firaxis uses. I don't think your example about Macedonia is very accurate because Pella never had the same kind of city state status. Furthermore, I prefer to refrain from using the plural adjective (Seleucids), unless no good alternative is available.

Aaargh!!! I told you: Seleukeia is named after Seleukos, founder of the Seleucids. There never was a city state named Seleukeia; Seleukos/Seleucus just grabbed the biggest piece of Alexander's empire, that is Persia + Mesopotamia + Syria + part of Asia Minor. To celebrate his greatness a city was founded afterwards that bore his name (just like: Ptolemaios/Ptolemaeus-Ptolemaïs and Antiochos/Antiochus-Antiocheia). Anyway, I give up: I said I don't object to the name, just get your facts right 's all.

BTW, not everything Firaxis is good. (Otherwise, what would modders have left to do?)

@Mohatma: Congrats! (Don't have a clue what CFC means, but hey...) Priest king? That'd be the Harappans, right Fierabras? (Damn, another civ named after a city!)

 

[taketounwanted]

@GEELEN, if you are trying to correct a mod for it's history accuracy, this is definatly the wrong way. You more show your arrogancy then to achieve improvements on mods released at CFC! The path you have chosen, is the path of arrogance, high nose, and pretending something you aren't:"mr. know it all"

Destruction, what you are trying todo, is not the way to construct something, unless your goal is the construction of chaos! For that you'd just have to wait a few hundred billion years, that'll happen eventually anyway, also without your bad karma!

 

[Fierabras]

Ok then, "city state" might not be the right term. I should have used "successor state" and maybe compared it to Carthage instead of Babylon for example. I only was trying to explain how the naming was chosen and I intend to stick with it.

On the Priest king: No, not the Harappans, but Harappa
Oh, and CFC is where you hang out a lot, posting and publishing and all (Civilization Fanatics Center)

 

[Fierabras]

There are a few text bugs in 4.0 that I noticed:
In Sviatoslav's page:

In Tamoio's page they are mistyped as Tamoio in the description, and priest king's page doesn't say which civ he belongs to.

Wow, close reading
I have already fixed it for an eventual patch or next version.

 

[Agent327]

Good for you!

@taketounwanted: What part of "I have no objection" didn't you get?

PS: I suggest we stick to Technical Support matters henceforth.

 

[taketounwanted]

@jeelen, ROFLMAO )))) You're so funny!!! ))

 

[Wyz_sub10]

I think I may have found the problem re: Poland. There was a similar error in each of the Leaders XML for Casimir and Sobieski.

I've committed the changes to the repository and will test tonight. As it's a non-shader error, however, it may not be picked up by me. Hopefully Fierabras can review it as well in the morning.

 

[Hiram]

There is a problem with the Ainu city names. The city 'Hamamasu' comes out as CITYNAME_TXT_HAMAMASU or something close to that.

~Hiram.

 

[Wyz_sub10]

There is a problem with the Ainu city names. The city 'Hamamasu' comes out as CITYNAME_TXT_HAMAMASU or something close to that.

~Hiram.

Fixed.

I had mis-typed the tag in the Text XML.

Thanks.

 

[Fierabras]

I think I may have found the problem re: Poland. There was a similar error in each of the Leaders XML for Casimir and Sobieski.

I've committed the changes to the repository and will test tonight. As it's a non-shader error, however, it may not be picked up by me. Hopefully Fierabras can review it as well in the morning.

Thanks, Wyz, I see now what I've done wrong with the XML artdefines. (Not sure what I was thinking!). I guess this also aplies to the Hiram (the LH, not the CFC user) issue? I think Darius_noshader.nif should be Hiram_noshader.nif. Maybe JEELEN can test this for his scenario...

The problem was that all of these LH's are working on my computer, so it did not pop up as a bug during development. I'll test these changes tonight as well.

 

[Hiram]

How do I fix the city names in my own copy? I don't want to go through the whole 4 hour download again.

~Hiram.

EDIT: Don't worry, worked it out. It was just the incorrect spelling of Hammasu in CivInfos and the un-capitalisation of Sobetsu in the text one, right?

 

[Edward The Big]

If it is a simple XML error, could you post what it is so we can edit it ourselves? I don't mind going in and editing it.

 

[Hiram]

By the way, the Totlec cultural borders are invisible.

~Hiram.