Civ-specific ranks collection thread

[Pavel Chichikov]

Lenins reign is too brief compared to Stalins, so the latter got in. Both were inhuman monsters so arguing which was "better" is a mute points. Stalin gets in for WW2 (dubious, but popular perception trumps it, plus he brilliantly trumped the other Allies in his nasty underhanded way in gobbling up all of Eastern Europe afterwards) and industrialization. I was thinking Trotski near the bottom but again to many 20th century leaders.
I actually totally agree about Gorbachev, in fact in Russia itself popular perception generally is pretty negative. Russia is probably one of the hardest because all their leaders nearly bar none were terrible. Everything they have achieved has been in spite of it's Governments, actually.

Anyone up for Poland?

 

[Zaduzai]

I maybe have time to make today Mughal and Thai list. But I would need comments or I can comment if someone has time to do those.

 

[Tigranes]

Krushchev arguably led Russia at their peak power (around the time of the Cuban missile crisis during the Cold War) though. Which Stalin and Gorbachev did not.

All the achievements of Krushchev can be attributed to his time, not to his leadership. He almost brought famine to the most fertile land on the planet by introducing corn instead of traditional wheat after visiting America. Shoe-banging leader became a laughing-stock not just in UN, but also in his own Party, who forced him into resignation while he was enjoying his vocation. He is respected mostly for his effort to discontinue the cult of Stalin, but he was Stalin's loyalist during all the years of purges. Of his contemporaries Marshal Zhukov or Academician Kurchatov remembered with more reverence...

 

[Pavel Chichikov]

Haha, I forgot about his crazy Corn ideas, Robert Conquest has some good stories on that man.
The main reason I considered him was in his words (something along this lines) "nobody would ever have asked Stalin to peacefully step-down. That is my legacy"

 

[Pavel Chichikov]

Farsi/Persians, aglified spellings:

1. Cyrus
2. Darioush I
3. Abbas I
4. Xerxes I
5. Shapur I
6. Ishmael I
7. Cambysses II
8. Darioush III
9. Reza Shah
10. Ayatollah Khomeini
11. Yazdegird III
12. Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

Not counting the Parthava or any of the Sunni/Arab dynasties for obvious reasons.
Thoughts?

 

[Oregon Lee]

Still need this laddy?

 

[InsanelyApple]

America:
1) Franklin D. Roosevelt (Great Depression, WWII)
2) Abraham Lincoln (Civil War, Ended slavery)
3) George Washington (Father of country)
4) Theodore Roosevelt (National Park, Trust busting)
5) Thomas Jefferson (Declaration of Independence)
6) Dwight Eisenhower (WWII, United Nations)
7) Bill Clinton (Popular Centrist policies, large economic boom, highest end-of-office approval rating of any president since WWII.)
8) John F Kennedy (Supporter of Civil Rights, died soon after taking office)
9) Lyndon Johnson (Civil Rights Act, Vietnam War)
10) Jimmy Carter (Supported alternative energy, many tragedies near end of presidency)
11) William Harrison (Died 32 days into office)
12) John Tyler (Lost support of his party, supported South seceding from Union)
13) George W Bush (Iraq and Afghanstan Wars, Reccession)
14) Richard Nixon (Watergate)
15) James Buchanan (Civil War)
16) Herbet Hoover (Great Depression)

(I was using just presidents, so no Dan on this list. I also included my reasoning.)

EDIT: Just saw this thread was necro'ed.

 

[Oregon Lee]

Leoreth, you still need this? Want me to make a new one? Gonna give up on this concept?

 

[DC123456789]

No American list is right without George W. Bush right at the bottom.

 

[Leoreth]

Leoreth, you still need this? Want me to make a new one? Gonna give up on this concept?

Completely forgot about this, and don't expect it to arrive at the top of my priority list before I forget about it again.

 

[Oregon Lee]

Not that important of an idea anyways.

 

[civ_king]

No American list is right without George W. Bush right at the bottom.

Actually Warren G. Harding deserves that dubious honour

 

[DC123456789]

Well, I suppose he was at least as bad, but the fact that I had to Google him to find out what he did wrong still makes me think that George W. Bush should be at the bottom. Don't forget, people's perception matters as well.

 

[teriaky]

I have learned a lot about moorish history recently, so here is an updated list.

Spoiler :

Here is my revised list for the moors. i would like to thank Lennon for some ideas.
Almanzor
Abd ar-Rahman III
Yaqub al-Mansur
Ahmad al-Mansur

Abu Zakariya
Al Hakam II
Youssef Ibn Tachfin
Abu Yusuf Yaqub

Abd el-Kader
Bologhine ibn Ziri
Mansur ibn Nasir
Muhammad al-Nasir

Hisham II al-Hakam
Al-Mu'izz ibn Badis
Hisham III
Muhammad XII Boabdil

Abd ar-Rahman III
Yaqub al-Mansur
Youssef Ibn Tachfin
Almanzor

Ahmad al-Mansur
Abu Zakariya
Al Hakam II
Abu Yusuf Yaqub

Abd el-Kader
Bologhine ibn Ziri
Mansur ibn Nasir
Muhammad al-Nasir

Hisham II al-Hakam
Hisham III
Al-Mu'izz ibn Badis
Muhammad XII Boabdi

 

[Atlantic Pacf.]

No American list is right without George W. Bush right at the bottom.

And if that proves too controversial we can always replace him with Millard Fillmore!

(Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan...Notice a pattern?)

 

[trexeric]

Nope, Dan Quayle always has to be at the bottom for the U.S.

 

[Civciv5]

Abd ar-Rahman III
Yaqub al-Mansur
Youssef Ibn Tachfin
Almanzor

Ahmad al-Mansur
Abu Zakariya
Al Hakam II
Abu Yusuf Yaqub

Abd el-Kader
Bologhine ibn Ziri
Mansur ibn Nasir
Muhammad al-Nasir

Hisham II al-Hakam
Hisham III
Al-Mu'izz ibn Badis
Muhammad XII Boabdil

I would add at least one female leader, Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyah
Abd ar-Rahman III
Yaqub al-Mansur
Youssef Ibn Tachfin
Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyah

Ahmad al-Mansur
Abu Zakariya
Al Hakam II
Abu Yusuf Yaqub

Abd el-Kader
Bologhine ibn Ziri
Mansur ibn Nasir
Muhammad al-Nasir

Hisham II al-Hakam
Hisham III
Al-Mu'izz ibn Badis
Muhammad XII Boabdil

 

[Caesar of Bread]

For Rome/Byzantines - combined (sorry, its just that i couldn't think a lot)
1. Augustus
2. Justinian I
3. Trajan
4. Basil II

5. John II Komnenos
6. Hadrian
7. Alexios Komnenos
8. Marcus Aurelius

9. Constantine
10. Zoe
11. Julius Caesar
12. Septimus Severus
13. Caligula
14. Phocas

15. Romulus Augustus
16. Nero
17. Caligula's Horse
18. Dan Quayle of Rome

 

[Gahan]

I don't think this thread is still valid, but I wanna write this anyway.
And I can't agree with the list of Korean leaders at page 1, so I wrote this again.
(★: Not a formal leader, but had influential enough and had a sufficient impact on his country's history)

1. Sejong the Great
2. Gwanggaeto the Great
3. Taejo Wang Geon
4. King Munmu

5. King Geunchogo
6. Jeongjo of Joseon
7. Hyeonjong of Goryeo
8. Dae Jo-yeong (In other words, King Go of Balhae. But his real name 'Dae Jo-yeong' is more popular with Koreans.)

9. Kim Gu★ (He was not a leader of a formal country or dynasty, but he led Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea during under Japanese Rule.)
10. Park Chung-hee
11. Heungseon Daewongun ★
12. King Gongmin

13. Seonjo of Joseon
14. Choe Chung-heon ★
15. Kim Jong-il
16. Gung Ye (He was a tyrant of Later Goguryeo, but also popular in Korean Internet community by memes, based on famous TV drama Taejo Wang Geon.)

 

[Enyavar]

You people necro'ed a 10 year old thread and made me think for a moment I needed to do research on who the best Babylonian leaders in their history were.
Boooooooo!