Civ3 and real-life

[Tomoyo]

Wonders at most give 8cpt. Five temples will give you 10 cpt, and China had a lot of temples.

 

[klopolov]

I think a GREAT WALL OF CHINA is a dead give away that they had wonders...

 

[Tomoyo]

That came too late to give that much culture...

 

[Tearor]

ya but it made a great target for the WWII bombers, kinda gives away a countries boundries from the air and the land. and the romans would have had a victory bonus with their military and their land mass along with their economy and gold(shinies).

 

[Tomoyo]

What is a "victory bonus"?

 

[Tearor]

sorry, victory points. you know the kind you get from stratigic points that you garison and for taking cities and killing units.

 

[Captain Carnage]

the american were founded by the british empire and it used to expand all over the world so the sun never set on the british empire. or at least that is what it said on the back of the cup with a spot of british tea in it. and another thing...... i forgot but i know this, the british were origanlly taken over by the romans way back when so the romans would have won a conquest victory over the known world in their time.

The entire British Empire was built on cups of tea

 

[klopolov]

the american were founded by the british empire and it used to expand all over the world so the sun never set on the british empire. or at least that is what it said on the back of the cup with a spot of british tea in it. and another thing...... i forgot but i know this, the british were origanlly taken over by the romans way back when so the romans would have won a conquest victory over the known world in their time.

Known world? Known by Romans? Rome fell, but the rest of the world seemed to go on just fine without it. I'll bet my left leg that the people in Americas did not give a damn about Rome when it fell! Has Rome conquered China? I'll use a Civ3 analogy: If you start a game on an island with one other civ and conquer them, do you then achieve a conquest victory, or do you then go and find 20 more civs that were not part of the "known" world?

 

[Babbler]

I'll use a Civ3 analogy

OMG, the article is right! RL and civ are becoming one for us!

 

[AA-battery]

No, the Americans have UN and the Brits don't have enough land to qualify for a vote.

In civ Canada pretty much counts as part of the British land claim. There is no civ for Canada and it used to belong to the British empire. But lots of the civs in civ3 are now today made up of many countries. (Like the Aztecs are split into Peru and Equador and possibly more south american countries) Therefore civs aren't neccesarily nations, they are basically groups of people who strive for the same cause and are very closely related. I can say that in a civ situation that Canada would be part of the English civ. However I do not believe that any of the civs own enough land here to get a spot for the UN for that will solely remain on the population standing.

 

[tR1cKy]

@AA-battery: Canada part of England? Tu as oublié les Quebecois?

 

[DragonRunner]

AA- I thought The INCA had those areas. Also, I've found that after playing a long session of civ, I find myself thinking "How many squares to my bedroom, and how many turns will it take me to get there?

 

[Alexnm]

(Like the Aztecs are split into Peru and Equador and possibly more south american countries)

Actually, these were the Inca. The Aztecs established their civilization in Mexico and some areas of Central America.

 

[Drakan]

Huh, are you guys nuts ? Spain won by Domination in 1550 A.D.

 

[Tearor]

spain wouldnt have won, rome own spain long before the spanish arose from the romans. I still think that the romans would of won in their time hands down.

 

[Drakan]

(yeah, I was only kidding). Rome would've been the winner by either domination or culture. I wouldn't say it was China.

 

[budweiser]

Bah, nobody has won yet. Wouldn't it be fun to try and go back and calculate some culture values from Egypt, China, Rome, Greece, and India, and try and factor in when they built their wonders and temples etc to calculate a reletive culture score forthem all.

 

[Whomp]

I woke up this morning in a sweat wondering why I mined that hill in a corrupt city in a despot!! Problem is my current game is already a republic in the MA's....SICK!

Another tidbit regarding video(pc) games and tv.
On NPR yesterday I heard that "echo boomers" (in the USA I assume) will have experienced (or produced) something like 50,000 murders and 200,000 maimings before they reach high school.
Obviously these kids have never seen a stack of raging barbarian horsemen!!

I vote the Chinese #1 by 2050 AD.....they've stood the test of time.
#1 Pop. today, pottery in 1300 BC, dyes 1000 BC, Books 900 BC, Confucius 600 BC, their production and histograph is getting strong again (the first capitalists),Great Wall, Confucius, if you can count the Tibetans more culture, silks, tea was mentioned in writings in 300 AD (Portugese traders show up and they bring tea back to the English around 1517), printing to Egyptians around 1100 AD, paper, compass and iron plough to Europe 1122 AD....and most important they have lots of rivers!!!

The Romans a close #2...tough call with wines, food, beautiful terrain, the Colleseum, Sistine, Forum, aqueducts, republic and the art but their histograph has been running awfully slow since Leonardo!!!! WWII not so pretty...

 

[Tearor]

but the romans had their funny looking ear reefs. That must be good for something.

Ear reefs! Ear reefs! you cant ignore thw ear reeeefs!

 

[Whomp]

Ear reefs? What are they?