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So, what is your answer to the awkward situation ?


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A great amount of water has flowed to the sea during this discussion, and even more will flow to it before this situation is resolved. I have read every single post in this discussion, and have been swayed this way and that. At one point I was sure I'd click Tri, at another I was closer to voting Flex.

In the end I asked myself: "What is this poll about?" and I realised that the discussion included many topics that extended far beyond the reach of the question posed. IMHO the question asked here is: do we continue with the Tri government as is FOR NOW or not?

I do see the point of the many Flex supporters that as has come out, it was the initial favoured government, and that it should get a fair chance. But to be completely fair: another government is in place at this very moment, and it cannot simply cease to be. Therefore I encourage the Flex supporters to polish up to bring up a more final version of the Flex government, while we carry on using the Tri model for now. By the time the Flex draft is ready, we can compare it to the Tri model, THEN decide what our government should be and amend our way to it, or have it remain as is.

Right here right now I vote for Tri, not because I believe Flex is a worse kind of government, not because I think Tri has more legality, but simply because it is the government IN PLACE and we have to work with it as best we can. You can't leave a nation without a government, can you? And no, I don't want to hear about anarchy... :P
 
i voted triumverate mainly due to donovan zoi's arguments, we are a democracy so we must adapt and change things from within and not let the mods do it.
 
I agree with Gloriana. I would love to see a fleshed out version of the Flex government, so I can compare them side by side. This is my first Demo game, and I don't know offhand what the difference is. I just know that right now one is already written out and approved, while the other one is still just a basic idea. I'm so anxious to get this game underway.
 
GeorgeOP said:
I agree with Gloriana. I would love to see a fleshed out version of the Flex government, so I can compare them side by side. This is my first Demo game, and I don't know offhand what the difference is. I just know that right now one is already written out and approved, while the other one is still just a basic idea. I'm so anxious to get this game underway.

Link to Flex thread

Page 2 has 2 versions, page 3 has another. All of those are about 95% fleshed out and detailed.

I assure you, a Flex ruleset is not just a basic idea.

-- Ravensfire
 
ravensfire said:
I assure you, a Flex ruleset is not just a basic idea.

I agree. There would be some work required for a final tuneup, but it's not anything like we'd be starting from a blank page.
 
Impressive how many people have voted. We only has so many votes in your elections, which were watered up by 10+ DL.

DS, are you ever going to vote? Just give your vote to Abstain :D if you can't decide or don't want to - this poll will close before the JR1 ruling for sure.
 
Thus the people speak, and the government stands.
 
After being a tight run almost all the way, the final decision is surprisingly clear: almost 3:2 in favour of going alone with Tri.
 
I think this result just shows that most people want to get the game started. I know that I voted for continuing with the Tri gov with the full knowledge that we should have the ability in the future to modify the CoL as we go along.

There are a lot of things that I like about the Flex style, but I still think it needs some work and more discussion. We can be doing that while we start the game under the Tri gov framework.
 
Blkbird said:
After being a tight run almost all the way, the final decision is surprisingly clear: Almost 2:1 in favour of going alone with Tri.

How is 23:17 almost 2:1? It's only about 1.3:1...

Anyway, I'm fine with the result, at least it will get the show on the road! :hammer:
 
Ginger_Ale said:
How is 23:17 almost 2:1? It's only about 1.3:1...

It is "almost" 2:1 because it would have been 2:1 had a single person (you) not changed your vote.
 
Blkbird, the vote change is reflected in the # of votes for each (though my name stays under Tri). You can check for yourself - count up Tri, and you'll get 24 names, but only 23 votes. Flex will have 16 names, yet 17 votes.

And sorry, but I don't think even 24:16 would be 2:1...that'd be 3:2.
 
The people have spoken, and i couldn't agree more with your statement Bengeance! :D
 
Even I was undecided on this. I was leaning towards flexible, but we already shot ourselves in the foot so to speak with this one. No need to shoot the other foot. :)
 
Ugh! Dang college starting early. If the poll was to remain a bit longer, I would have voted for Flexable :-p
 
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