Civilization elimination thread

[ense7en]

Arabia 2
Babylon 13
China 9
Inca 23
Korea 25
Maya 4
Persia 4

Getting really tough to have to downvote any civ!

Love the Inca; they are my favorite civ. Already posted many times about why, but i like their ability to play for any victory condition.

Not really a fan of REX city-spam, and it seems that is the best way to utilize the Mayans.
Not really a fan of not-really-free great people either, though it definitely forces you to mix it up a bit, which i do like.
Atlatlist is a terrible UU.


edit: fixed as Tabarnak just posted.

 

[Beethovania]

Arabia 3 - Should be in the top 5 with their amazing UU.
Babylon 13
China 9
Inca 23
Korea 25
Maya 2 - Most boring one left, should be next to go. Can't find anything i like about them.
Persia 4

 

[Awsome Sause]

Arabia 1
Babylon 13
China 9
Inca 23
Korea 25
Maya 3
Persia 4

Maya : This Civ is great for going wide and almost assures you an early religion!

Arabia: A great UU but the UB losses its luster in the late game when trades are rarer and is kinda useless in multiplayer. Its UA is a bit lackluster to.

 

[Mesix]

Experienced with the game, but not necessarily with the Inca - I've played them once, Mesix appears only to play Babylon except when experimenting with other civs to establish that they aren't as strong as Babylon...

Actually I rarely play Babylon. I played them a few times and discovered how much faster they were to tech (on account of having essentially double the of any other civ in the early game when it is the most crucial). I played my first G&K Babylon game just last week when I started to compare if Korea could indeed keep up with them (they can't, and no one has really demonstrated that they can except with empty hyperbole). I have also been experimenting with some different strategies with them (like a OCC game and delaying expansion until the Renaissance Era, both of which were fun).

Since G&K came out, I have mostly been playing the scenarios and the new civs which came with the expansion (trying to unlock all the achievements). I really like the Into the Renaissance scenario. Before G&K, China and Egypt (until I was able to kick my wonder addiction) were the civs I played the most often. I used to rush the AI Babylon in games to capture their capital with the Academy early in the game, but they don't seem to favor planting the Academy any more (perhaps patched in the expansion?).

The one thing that has come out of all this discussion is that I played around with Maya and Korea more. I am trying to find the magic that makes everyone love Korea so much, but it just isn't there for me (which is strange because I love to play a specialist economy game). Despite the fact that I win most games by domination and quite enjoy being a warmonger, I consider myself to be more of a builder and prefer to play civs which have UB instead of two UU or (even worse) a UI.

While testing the Maya, I have found that the downside of increase the cost of future great people really does stop them from being overpowered. Sure, you can't game the system to get 2 great people on 1 turn, and the GS won't come as early, but Maya generates quite a lot of great people and can also get religion easy enough. Here is a list of the great people which I got in the first 175 turns playing as Maya: GS (72, UA), GE (86, UA), GS (89, Liberty), GP (89, ) GP (101, UA), GA (117, UA), Adm (133, UA), GM (152, UA). That is eight great people in the preindustrial era, and I know that with practice I can probably get a couple more. The one thing I would mention is that the great prophet from the Long Count increases the cost of future great people generated in cities and also future Great Prophets generated with . When playing Maya, I would recommend generating a Great Prophet with to start the religion and then taking the "free" Great Prophet from the next Long Count to enhance the religion.

 

[Gucumatz]

Arabia 1
Babylon 13
China 9
Inca 23
Korea 25
Maya 4 (+1)
Persia 2 (-2)

Not sure how either Persia or China have survived. Or why Arabia is practically dead either considering it is one of the most all around civs out there (Desert for religion, either desert pantheon to be the dominator of religy in your game or messenger of teh gods synergy, prime Petra bias, Bazaars early on for extra gold to build empire, trade route gold for maintenance and growth, Camel Archers which are like keshiks and work perfectly fine all the way to artillery without a need for an upgrade, double Oil for the late game, extra gold from oases, what more can you want. There is nothing lackluster about them).

 

[SammyKhalifa]

impressive tiles!

It was fun. Obviously that's a really good map for Inca, but I've found it's not hard to go tall with them.

What I found interesting is that it's going to let me work the mountain tiles if I want for 1F 1H 1G, from Petra I'm assuming. The game must think there are deserts under those mountains.

 

[Crafty Bison]

Arabia 1
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 25
Maya 4
Persia 3

Admittedly Persia isn't a civ that does everthing for you, and if you can't see the best use for immortals or time your hapiness, SP's, WW's and GP for stringing massive GA's, it might seem a little underwhelming, but with good play this civ is just plain awesome.

Reliance on 1 VC mean fewer setups they're great at, and lack of lasting (paper maker is great early but tails off a little) economic bonus for a domination civ give China my downvote. I quite like them, but I quite like all the civs that are left.

 

[Algeroth]

Arabia 1
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 23
Maya 5
Persia 3

Korea's good, but it isn't the best civ on the list.

Maya - as I stated before, have great and flavourful UB and UA. I know that people here doesn't appreciate their UU, but it fits my playstyle. Some civs here should go before it.

 

[Furycrab]

Arabia 1
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 24 (+1)
Maya 5
Persia 1 (-2)

Out of what's left, Persia is the only one that has me scratching my head. An unpredictable UA, a UU that goes out of style a bit fast and a UB that's a Bank... Which I barely ever build.
Hoping someone agrees and Arabia which is better in my books get ranked 1 higher .

Korea... Said this before, but the UA is gamestyle changing, quite open in terms of applications, and damn strong.

 

[crawf0rd]

Arabia 2 (+1)
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 24
Maya 5

Goodbye Persia, I never really liked you. Your UA never fit my playstyle, and I've never had a knack for using Immortals well.

On the other hand, Arabia is just great. Even though their UA is one of the worst in their game, their UB is essentially the Netherland's UAx2. Their UU is a mini-keshik, and their start bias lets use get Desert Folklore effectively, so Arabia really fits any playstyle.

 

[Yzman]

Arabia 2
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 22
Maya 6

I love the Maya for their unique playstyle compared to many of the other civs.
I don't dislike any of the civs left....so I just downed korea because they were doing well still so it wouldn't effect too much.

 

[theguy8882]

Arabia 3
Babylon 13
China 5
Inca 23
Korea 22
Maya 6

 

[Awsome Sause]

theguy8882 you already voted today at 09:34 AM ET( post #1148) plus you didn't give a reason either time.

Arabia 2
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 22
Maya 6

 

[maurcus]

Arabia 0 (-2) never trade away resources
Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 23
Korea 22
Maya 7 (+1) solid early to mid gamer

 

[DeathFace]

Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 24
Korea 20
Maya 7

I love terrace farms and the UA a lot due to the extra cash and making early exploration a lot quicker.

Korea never really appealed to me. The UUs seem to act the absolute opposite way the normal versions do. Plus their colors can be a bit of an eyesore imo. After reading some of these posts, I think some time in the near future I probably will give Korea another shot, but right now I like the remaining civs on this list far better.

 

[kamikazees]

Well, folks, we have our top 5! Although I must admit I hope Inca loses some ground. Not sure it will, though

 

[Buccaneer]

It is somewhat peculiar that one of the very strongest civs in the game (Arabia) gets eliminated by someone who doesn't trade away resources.

 

[Yzman]

never trade away resources
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Why would you not want to trade away resources? They are extras!

 

[crawf0rd]

imo

 

[Lord Kid]

Babylon 13
China 7
Inca 25
Korea 20
Maya 5

Inca all the way. Best, most well rounded civ.

Of the civs left, Maya are my least favorite. They're not bad per se, but Incas are better than them hands down, Babs and Korea own them for Science, and China is my go to for Dom.