pre-release info Civilization VII - Gameplay Trailer/Showcase - Wonders & Buildings

[notNamed]

Considering pyramids were characteristic of the Old Kingdom, I wouldn't consider them particularly salient. I'd mark the end of Ancient Egypt as the end of the Late Period in the mid fourth century, after which Egypt was ruled by a succession of foreign conquerors (the Persians, the Ptolemies, and Rome), although the last few dynasties were ruling a rump state with few accomplishments and little power--but I'd say that's a pretty good example of the crisis system in action (as are all the Egyptian intermediary periods). (We already know the Bronze Age Collapse is referenced in the Antiquity crisis so some anachronism there is fine...)

I went with 1000BCE to cover the start of foreign rule that Egypt never really got out of. Cutting that off at Persians just seems like a convention borne of Greek histories starting around that time?

Either way, the gap is still massive as long as Egyptian "progression" in the game is concerned. It's just one of the facts of life with the 3-age system.

 

[Zaarin]

I went with 1000BCE to cover the start of foreign rule that Egypt never really got out of. Cutting that off at Persians just seems like a convention borne of Greek histories starting around that time?

Either way, the gap is still massive as long as Egyptian "progression" in the game is concerned. It's just one of the facts of life with the 3-age system.

Fair, and I did say the Late Period dynasties were rump states (and technically the 31st dynasty, i.e., the Satrapy of Egypt, is generally classified as part of the Late Period, though I left it out). On the other hand, Egyptian civilization lived on under foreign rule pretty much up through the Islamic conquest, where it was slowly integrated into broader Arab civilization.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

The issue with Tang is that they existed side-by-side with... the Abbasids, a 2nd Age civ

the shawnee fought with the us

the normans fought with england

there’s prob more i can’t think of them tho

 

[JNR13]

I agree that the staircase and the bridges point towards Weiyang Palace! In that case, then, it seems like Terracotta Army won't be a wonder as hypothesized by other people on the thread - otherwise there'd be two Qin~Han Dynasty wonders.

I guess the proposed Terracotta Army screenshot is just a Stables or something

Terracotta Army definitely is a wonder. Weiyang Palace probably, too. There is no ussue with having two ancient Chinese wonders. We got two Greek wonders and two Assyrian wonders already. Haven't seen the Great Library yet, would love if anyone who thinks they spotted it to provide a screenshot. But then we'd have two Egyptian wonders, too. And as mentioned previously, we also spotted two Mughal wonders.

 

[notNamed]

And as mentioned previously, we also spotted two Mughal wonders.

Well we've also seen 2 French wonders. Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty.

 

[Henrique3d]

Well we've also seen 2 French wonders. Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty.

For a moment, I tought you were talking about Notre Dame, lol

 

[notNamed]

For a moment, I tought you were talking about Notre Dame, lol

Well Notre Dame is purely medieval, so it's gonna go to the Franks or some sort of equivalent of that.

 

[Zaarin]

two Assyrian wonders

I had to pause for a moment because outside of Civ I know that the Hanging Gardens were probably in Nineveh if they existed, but Civ perennially associates them with Babylon.

 

[JNR13]

Funny thing is, I thought Dur-Sharrukin was yet another name for the Ziggurat complex of Babylon, so I did think Babylon was in and possibly Assyria because of the Hanging Gardens, but was sceptical because I never saw any other Assyrian unique buildings in the pictures. When I looked it up earlier and found out that it's actually an Assyrian city, I realized I had never seen Babylonian UBs anywhere, either.

 

[Zaarin]

Getting Assyria first would be refreshing. I hope they're depicted as a builder/militaristic civ instead of all conquest like they have been in the past; the Assyrians were some of the most remarkable builders of wonders and infrastructure in the ancient world. (And I'm very excited to see the palace complex at Dur-Sharrukin as a wonder.)

 

[Josephias]

Well Notre Dame is purely medieval

Viollet-le-Duc objects

It’s medieval at its core, that I would agree.

 

[Guandao]

I'm such a fan of making every civ have their own palace. This is one of my pet peeves about Civ6, that too many civs share a single palace style.

Some time ago I designed alternative palaces for every civ that shared a palace in Civ6, like Rome, Greece and Macedonia. I really like to see different architectural styles!

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Can I see your designs for Scythia, Persia, Arabia and India? They all shared that same Mughal like palace.

Yep, the St. Thomas Christians. I believe they've entered into communion with the Syriac Orthodox Church but maintained their Nestorian practices and East Syriac rites.

Plenty of those in my area. They have surnames like Thomas, Varughese, and Chacko.

 

[Henrique3d]

Can I see your designs for Scythia, Persia, Arabia and India? They all shared that same Mughal like palace.

Plenty of those in my area. They have surnames like Thomas, Varughese, and Chacko.

Here, the other ones I made. I also made a palace for Russians and Georgians too. I tried to make something for the Khmer and Indonesian, but I never finished those, lol

 

[JNR13]

I think I found the Bagdad House of Wisdom, Abbasid wonder. This is from the Abbasid city in the gameplay reveal trailer at 1:12 (also has the Madrasa UB). The walls don't look quite perpendicular to the gate, so I think it could be an octagon.

 

[8housesofelixir]

I think I found the Bagdad House of Wisdom, Abbasid wonder. This is from the Abbasid city in the gameplay reveal trailer at 1:12 (also has the Madrasa UB). The walls don't look quite perpendicular to the gate, so I think it could be an octagon.

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We don't really know what the House of Wisdom looked like, and since we don't have a good view of this building, it may very well be any famous building complex dating from the Abbasid period or later.

 

[JNR13]

Yes true, it could be anything. It's just a guess based on exclusion. I'm guessing it's the House of Wisdom *because* we don't know what it looks like - the structure doesn't seem to match anything known. My expectation for the Abbasid wonder would've been the spiral minaret, but that doesn't seem to be it and the compound next to it is square. The Mustansiriya Madrasa is already the reference for the regular Madrasa building. Non-square polygonal buildings possible would be the Dome of the Rock and a couple of other mausoleums, for all of which this building seems too big.

 

[Henrique3d]

I think I found the Bagdad House of Wisdom, Abbasid wonder. This is from the Abbasid city in the gameplay reveal trailer at 1:12 (also has the Madrasa UB). The walls don't look quite perpendicular to the gate, so I think it could be an octagon.

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That building is the same that is being built in this blurry picture. To me, it looks like a rounded fortress of some sort, with a tall domed building in the middle. Reminds me of the Rounded City of Baghdad and the House of Wisdom in the middle (scaled down, of course)

 

[Henrique3d]

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I can't recall if we have discussed this one. It looks like a Chinese wonder.

Looks like our buddy Confucius is standing in front of a very similar building...

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

A new short. I think some of this footage is new.

Amphitheater (that's not Amphi-, as per typical Firaxis)
Looks like a Mayan art style

Factory (from the Twitter version of the video)

 

[JNR13]

A new short. I think some of this footage is new.
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Amphitheater (that's not Amphi-, as per typical Firaxis)
Looks like a Mayan art style
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Factory (from the Twitter version of the video)

The short is just a section from the 20 min showcase, from 12:14 to 13:03. Here's another look at the second building, I think it could be a power plant or refinery or so. Lots of fuel tanks around.

Either way though, we're getting at least seven (!) different industry buildings this time. Some of them could be updated visuals for older buildings, which is a bit hard to identify because sometimes you see the ancient Granary model in a modern city, which might either be a bug or just unfinished art... Also, looks like we have three industrial styles again: blue/green/orange (by roof color), analogue to the utilitarian/rowhouse/colonial styles of VI, respectively.

I believe this is the factory (they share the billboard and the same shape of chimney).

Further, we have Steelworks / High Furnace. Two separate buildings, they can be seen together in the same city in one shot.

This seems to be some sort of toolmaker or so? It seems to have a hammer on the side as a logo.

This could also be an early power plant, or a Spinning Mill or so.

And finally this, no idea what this is supposed to be but it looks industrial.