Civilizations Reborn

[1SDANi]

Funny, I wanted just to generate a game with Mamluks to check something, so I updated my branch after a few days, started game, looked at a world map and saw a weird civ. Checked civilopedia first, found Khazars flag there, then I wrote git log in bash and then I've read this thread . Thanks.

That's amazing

 

[Rodnok]

Even then, I still have my concerns about how strong the UP is. Just build food improvements everywhere and you have a huge surpluss of food, allowing you to grow fast and have a huge production bonus. The production bonus translates into faster building construction, which translates into more commerce and yield output. This makes it too easy to get superdeveloped cities early.

Actually, I might be totally wrong here, but I do not see the UP as a big advantage. To add to it, the Kievan starts with Tributaries. It means the cities will use food for production when building both military units and buildings and they won't grow. Only exception are wonders and some civilian units. Solution might be to switch to Conquest and grow cities when building military units. It is still a bit contradictory to what we are used to: build a building when our city grows (and that's why I got a problem with it probably .

I understand this is for UHVs: Kiev will grow when building that wonder and other smaller cities will use the food to build temples... later units.

 

[Publicola]

UB: Saltovo - Replaces Smokehouse. Sheep and Cows attract the Silk Road

Do sheep and cows contribute to the Silk Road corporation, or does it just attract Silk Road to cities that may not benefit from them?

UU: Khagan - Replaces Settler. Trained when a Great General is Born. Cities start with an Armoury

Are you still able to build settlers/khagans, or are you limited to the ones you get for free?

 

[1SDANi]

Do sheep and cows contribute to the Silk Road corporation, or does it just attract Silk Road to cities that may not benefit from them?


Are you still able to build settlers/khagans, or are you limited to the ones you get for free?

They contribute and give benefit, and yes you can still build Khagans.

I wanted the Saltovo to both represent the Khazars' history as a prominent alternate route along the silk road and the Saltovo culture economy that they were known for, while with Khagans I wanted to represent the Bek/Khagan setup of the Khaganate. While neither are particularly unique to the Khazars, they were large parts of their nation, properly assists them towards their UHVs and helps give them a unique gameplay experience.

Actually, I might be totally wrong here, but I do not see the UP as a big advantage. To add to it, the Kievan starts with Tributaries. It means the cities will use food for production when building both military units and buildings and they won't grow. Only exception are wonders and some civilian units. Solution might be to switch to Conquest and grow cities when building military units. It is still a bit contradictory to what we are used to: build a building when our city grows (and that's why I got a problem with it probably .

I understand this is for UHVs: Kiev will grow when building that wonder and other smaller cities will use the food to build temples... later units.

Here's a small tip for the Kievan Rus: Even with Tributaries, you still grow while constructing wonders, commerce, and non-military units (missionaries, work boats, etc)

 

[star15389]

We have a few cases of relocations in DoC still. Vijayanagara -> Bangalore, Coyuca -> Guadalajara, for example

 

[1SDANi]

We have a few cases of relocations in DoC still. Vijayanagara -> Bangalore, Coyuca -> Guadalajara, for example

I'm sorry but could you explain what you mean by "cases of relocations"?

 

[ozqar]

I think they meant to post in the city name manager thread. Relocations: multiple cities sharing the same tile and appearing under different circumstances.

 

[1SDANi]

New update: Merged latest DoC, adopted DoC's Relations Stability system once again.

I think they meant to post in the city name manager thread. Relocations: multiple cities sharing the same tile and appearing under different circumstances.

Oh. That makes sense.

 

[1SDANi]

It seems I forgot to document that Monasteries give a flat 2 science, a feature that's been in since day 1. The OP now reflects that.

 

[Publicola]

I'd suggest that it should be a bit more (3 or 4?) to make them more worthwhile, especially as civilizations develop. (In Europe, it was the most developed regions that built monasteries). One possibility might be to start out giving +2 flat science, but then add 1 or 2 extra science once a civilization discovers a related medieval tech like theology.

 

[Rodnok]

Might be the bottom part of the tree, with Theology, Scholarship (both suit well with monasteries) or the following technologies. For Western European civilizations there isn't much interesting currently and even for orthodox ones there is just some wonder or two.
I'd suggest start with 2 (or even with 1) and give +1 here and there.
Total monasteries output shouldn't be higher than 4 though. It could be abused with more religions similar to current 10 % in the main branch and their second bonus are the missionaries which are often the main reason to build them.
That's just my opinion, what do you think?

 

[1SDANi]

It's a very good idea, though it'd require adding a new XML tag to do so. I'll look into it and alternate methods of achieving similar results.

 

[1SDANi]

Hotfix: Readded Worst Enemy Penalties

 

[merijn_v1]

Religious cathedrals only provide happiness when it is the one of your state religion. Your getReligionHappiness() function counts all cathedral happiness, even if it is not of your state religion.

Also, the long list of every temple and cathedral is a bit quirky. You could use something like this:

Spoiler :

def getReligionHappiness(iPlayer):
    iStateReligion = gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getStateReligion()
    iHappiness = 0
    
    for iReligion in range(iNumReligions):
        iTemple = iJewishTemple + 4*iReligion
        iCathedral = iJewishCathedral + 4*iReligion
        
        iHappiness += getNumBuildings(iPlayer, iTemple)
        if iReligion == iStateReligion:
            iHappiness += 2*getNumBuildings(iPlayer, iCathedral)
            
    bTolerant = gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getCivics(iCivicsReligion) in [iTolerance, iSecularism]
    for city in utils.getCityList(iPlayer):
        if bTolerant:
            iHappiness += city.getReligionCount()
        elif iStateReligion != -1 and city.isHasReligion(iStateReligion):
            iHappiness += 1
            
    return iHappiness

 

[1SDANi]

Religious cathedrals only provide happiness when it is the one of your state religion. Your getReligionHappiness() function counts all cathedral happiness, even if it is not of your state religion.

Also, the long list of every temple and cathedral is a bit quirky. You could use something like this:

Spoiler :

def getReligionHappiness(iPlayer):
    iStateReligion = gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getStateReligion()
    iHappiness = 0
  
    for iReligion in range(iNumReligions):
        iTemple = iJewishTemple + 4*iReligion
        iCathedral = iJewishCathedral + 4*iReligion
      
        iHappiness += getNumBuildings(iPlayer, iTemple)
        if iReligion == iStateReligion:
            iHappiness += 2*getNumBuildings(iPlayer, iCathedral)
          
    bTolerant = gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getCivics(iCivicsReligion) in [iTolerance, iSecularism]
    for city in utils.getCityList(iPlayer):
        if bTolerant:
            iHappiness += city.getReligionCount()
        elif iStateReligion != -1 and city.isHasReligion(iStateReligion):
            iHappiness += 1
          
    return iHappiness

Thank you so much. That coding wizardry makes perfect sense in hindsight.

It seems I forgot that the happiness bonus is tied to the state religion.

New update: Cleaned up getReligionHappiness code

 

[1SDANi]

Merged latest DoC

 

[1SDANi]

Merged latest DoC

 

[Crimean Lord]

I've decided to make YouTube's Episodes based on Dawn of Civilization (Reborn)
Of course: Russia-the-Mother have priority for me - because I make that Episodes for the russian-speaking fans of Civ

 

[1SDANi]

I've decided to make YouTube's Episodes based on Dawn of Civilization (Reborn)
Of course: Russia-the-Mother have priority for me - because I make that Episodes for the russian-speaking fans of Civ

I am honoured you made a video on the mod. Thank you so much.

Also I noticed towards the end Python reported an error, do you happen to still have the PythonErr log file?

 

[1SDANi]

I've decided to make YouTube's Episodes based on Dawn of Civilization (Reborn)
Of course: Russia-the-Mother have priority for me - because I make that Episodes for the russian-speaking fans of Civ

Also, the vassal glitch seen in the video is purely visual. If you have chipotle enabled and press Ctrl+Z you will see that you're not shown as a vassal there but rather some other nation you've not met. I'm not sure why this happens and have yet to reproduce it, I am very sorry for the confusion.