Civilizations

Hope you like it. ;) Now to get started on the dwarves.

Do you have any more city names for those civs which are coming up short? The online Tolkien-geek world has thrown up lots of far Eastern & Southern Middle-Earth maps (enough for the extra dwarf civs, I'm sure) - but strangely enough, no new detail on Beleriand - which I need for the Falathrim & Edain lists.
 
Not that Im part of this mod thing or anything, but I have another Arda mod for civ2 (called 'tolkien', I think it came from cfc) that has dwarve cities.


Khazad-dum
Nogrod
Belegost
Nulukizdin
Ered Mithrim
Erebor
Iron Hills
Ered Luin
Azunalbizar
Barazinbar
Bundushathur
Zirak-Zigal
Hithaeglir
Aglarond
Methedras
Ered Lithui
Ephel Duath
Orocarni
Ered Ormal
Barl Syrnac

I think they're all from tolkien. But some of them have nothing to do with dwarves, like 'Ephel Duath'(mordor mts., where Frodo crossed) and 'Ered Lithui"(again, in mordor mts., but in north.)
 
Yes. Will incorporate them - are they all supposed to reflect both ArtStyle and UnitArtStyle?

Another thought: let's transfer the last 4 city names from the Arnor list (Bree, Staddle, Archet, Combe) to the Halethrim list. After all, the Men of Bree claimed to be descended directly from the Edain of the 1st Age.
Arnor will still have 20 city names, and Halethrim will be up to 12.
 
Good idea.

It's unit art style, at least until i figure out how to do the artstyle. :p

Thanks alot. please send me the civs when you're done.
 
Not that Im part of this mod thing or anything, but I have another Arda mod for civ2 (called 'tolkien', I think it came from cfc) that has dwarve cities.....

I think they're all from tolkien.

That's MY Civ2 Tolkien mod :cool:
The single Dwarf civ has all-original Tolkien place names, except the last 2. Ered Ormal and Barl Syrnac came from Tolkien Enterprises' larger Middle-Earth map.

Oh - and you're welcome to be part of this mod endeavour, I'm sure. I just butted in one day, and the others seem to have accepted me. Any help is appreciated. (Modding Civ 2 was a lot simpler!)
 
Dang.
Well done! That's AWESOME!
 
Great work, loved them! Just a few things: lets keep the three Noldor Houses; maybe the Avari should also become the "goody huts", as the Drúedain, or part of the Nandor; the Northmen could be called Rhovanion (it was the name of Vidugavia's kingdom); put Mardil as leader for Gondor. Some names are spelled wrong: Valmar, Eglarest.
I'd like to put a note somewhere about the names wich we (or others) invented, so it would be good if you marked the "unnoficial" names on posting. I could - and probably will, anyway - list them, but there's allways the possibility I don't know/find one.
Thomas, could you edit the first post to include the updated list of civs? Keep the ones that remain unchanged, update those that changed, and add the new ones.
I use notepad++
I still prefer XMLSpy, proper for this, including may useful options like diferentiating files or such, but it's your choice. Oh, and be sure to remove the diacritics on the text file, they mess up horribly ingame.
Bob, if you want to be in the team, you are. Or, if you prefer, simply come by eventually and give sugestions/comments. No formalities here, anyone may help (thought not all sugestions are implemented).

Here are the city lists for the 3 Noldor Houses (it's from the older version of the mod, the crashed one, so it's in the XML format):
House of Fëanor
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_HIMRING</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MARCH_OF_MAEDHROS</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LOTHLANN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_THARGELION</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_AGLON_PASS</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_HIMLAD</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MAGLOR_GAP</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_HELEVORN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_EASTERN_BELERIAND</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_OST_IN_EDHIL</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_EREGION</City>
House of Fingolfin
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MITHRIM</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DRENGIST</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DOR_LOMIN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_HITHLUM</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_VINYAMAR</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_NEVRAST</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GONDOLIN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_EITHEL_SIRION</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ARVENIEN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_FORLOND</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_HARLOND</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LINDON</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_IMLADRIS</City>
House of Finarfin
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_NARGOTHROND</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MINAS_TIRITH</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DORTHONION</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ARD_GALEN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TALATH_DIRNEN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_BARAD_NIMRAS</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_NAN_TATHREN</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TAR_EN_FAUROTH</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_AMON_RUDH</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_WESTERN_BELERIAND</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_CARAS_GALADHON</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LAURELINDORENAN</City>

And, to end everything, some more elven names (invented, but from actual elvish words) to be assigned to the various civs: Nimphlond (White Harbor), Gaerwing (Seasplash), Helklad (Plain of Ice), Losdor (Snowland), Mirgrod (Jewelmine), Sirost (River Fortress), Esgalien (Land of the Veil), Dunar (Nighthome), Amon Celeb (Silver Hill), Eryn Laureglin (Goldlight Forest), Seregion (Bloodland).
 
Thankyou everybody for the comments! :D

After poring throught The Book of Lost Tales and Narn I Hin Hurin, I managed to complete those short city lists. Done 4 Dwarf civs (assuming the non-Durin houses come in pairs), the Shadow, and the Minor/Nature civ in the last 2 hours.

Here's the balance of it:

*TELERI

Adjective: TELERIN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_BLUE
ArtStyleType: HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyle: HIGH_ELVISH

Cities:
ALQUALONDË
AVALLÓNË
TOL ERESSËA
ELDAMAR
ELENDË
ARAMAN
AVATHAR
KORTIRION
ALAMINÓRË
TARUITHORN
TAVROBEL
KOROMAS
ENEADUR
MAR VANWA TYALIÉVA
GRUIR
AFROS
ÍVERIN

Leader: OLWË (Seafaring, Creative).


*FALATHRIM

Adjective: FALATHRIM
PlayerColour: LIGHT_PURPLE
ArtStyleType: HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType: LOW_ELVISH

Cities:
BRITHOMBAR
EGLARAST
TOL BALAR
ARVENIEN
NIMBRETHIL
BARAD NIMRAS
NENNING
LINAEWEN
NAN-TATHREN
DRENGIST
FORLINDON
HARLINDON
MINAS HYARRÓMENAR
CARAS CELAIRNEN
CERIN BALGRIST
GALATHIVEL
MISTALONDË
NADIOR

Leader: CÍRDAN (Seafaring, Financial).


*BËORIAN

Adjective: BËORIAN
PlayerColour: DARK_CYAN
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: EDAIN

Cities:
ESTOLAD
LADROS
NIBIN-NOGRIM
BRITHON
GLITHUI
RINGWIL
SNOWTHORN
TALATH DIRNEN
RIVIL
ARROSIACH
AELUIN
ANDRAM
DIMROST
NAROG VALE
RILDOLACH
NIRMOLIAN
ATHILIN
TOL MORWEN

Leader: BËOR (Wise, Philosophical)
BARAHIR (Protective, Organised).


*HADORIAN

Adjective: HADORIAN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_CYAN
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: EDAIN

Cities:
DOR-LÓMIN
CIRITH NINIATH
LAMMOTH
EITHEL SIRION
SERECH FEN
GALENROS
CIRITH CELEGORM
ENEDMOS
CILUMË
CELEBROS
NEN LALAITH
AMON DARTHIR
HAUDH-EN-NIRNAETH
CABED-EN-ARAS
BAURUIN
ALLIMIR
CITHRENOR
ANNON BARAN
ANNITHIR
BREGNAS

Leader: HADOR LÓRINDOL (Aggressive, Protective)
HÚRIN (Aggressive, Organised).


*HALETHRIM

Adjective: HALETHRIM
PlayerColour: PEACH
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: EDAIN

Cities:
BRETHIL
EPHEL BRANDIR
TEIGLIN VALE
AMON OBEL
BRITHIACH
AELIN-UIAL
IANT IAUR
MALDUIN
AMON RUDH
AMON ETHIR
HAUDH-EN-ELLETH
NEN GIRITH
NELVORIN
ANGLOR
GWAELIN
BREE
ARCHET
COMBE
STADDLE

Leader: HALETH (Protective, Creative)
BRANDIR (Protective, Wise).


*LONGBEARD DWARF

Adjective: LONGBEARD
PlayerColour: YELLOW
ArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES
UnitArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES

Cities:
KHAZAD-DÛM
GUNDABAD
EREBOR
ERED MIRHRIM
IRON HILLS
ERED LUIN
AZUNALBIZAR
KHELED-ZÂRAM
BARAZINBAR
ZIRAK-ZIGAL
BUNDUSHATHÛR
AGLAROND
HITHAEGLIR
ERED LITHU
ERED NIMRAIS
WITHERED HEATH
BARL SYRNAC

Leader: DÚRIN (Industrious, Financial)
DÁIN (Protective, Financial).


*FIREBEARD DWARF

Adjective: FIREBEARD
PlayerColour: DARK_RED
ArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES
UnitArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES

Cities:
NOGROD
BELEGOST
NULUKKIZDÎN
NAN-I-NAUGRIM
SARN ATHRAD
ERED LINDON
NÚMERIADOR
TALATH MUIL
LHÚN VALLEY
RERIR
DOLMED
HELEVORN
PITKÄRANTA
TUMNOGOTH IAUR
EGENYAR
LANTHIR LAMATH
LOTHLANN
BARNAS
LITASH

Leader: AZAGHÂL (Industrious, Creative)
TELCHAR (Industrious, Expansive).


*BLACKLOCK DWARF

Adjective: BLACKLOCK
PlayerColour: DARK_PEACH
ArtStyleType: EAST_DWARVES
UnitArtStyleType: EAST_DWARVES

Cities:
DRÚHAR-SHATHÛR
MURTHÛNIN
UAX
ÚRCHELDOR
UUL
ANGCLAX
FUSTIR-GOST
OROCARNI
LYNAHAR
ÔM
UKAL SÊJ
AZJAN
ANGIKYAK
AIGVALG
JENDIAR
RÚBOR
ISKAHÚ
BUIRSKADEKAR

Leader: DRÚHAR (Aggressive, Protective)


*IRONFIST DWARF

Adjective: IRONFIST
PlayerColour: CYAN
ArtStyleType: EAST_DWARVES
UnitArtStyleType: EAST_DWARVES

Cities:
RUURIIK
SHAY
IRIAGI
DURVÎD
GAATHGYKARKAN
ZURGHÔR
SAKAL-AN-KHÂR
VULM SHRYAC
E-SORUL SÂRE
HALTHOR
ERED LARAMOR
ZIMRATHÂNI
DREL
MAG
PEL
AIKYEN
WAARWUGAN
MAAKEN
HAEN
URTLAGGA

Leader: G'VOLIN (Wise, Financial)


*THE SHADOW

Adjective: SHADOW
PlayerColour: BLACK
ArtStyleType: SHADOW
UnitArtStyleType: SHADOW

Cities:
UTUMNO
ANGBAND
BARAD-DÛR
THANGORODRIM
DOL GULDUR
MINAS MORGUL
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
CARN DÛM
ERED GORGOROTH
ERED ENGRIN
NAN DUNGORTHEB
CIRITH UNGOL
MORIA
DOR-DAEDELOTH
DAGORLAD
NÚRNEN
EMYN MUIL
CIRITH GORGOR
LITHLAD
MORGAI
DURTHANG
TORECH UNGOL
NARCHOST
CARCHOST
UDÛN

Leader: MELKOR (Aggressive, Destructive)
SAURON (Protective, Destructive).


*MINOR (Unplayable)

Adjective: NATURE
PlayerColour: DARK_GREEN
ArtStyleType: ENTISH
UnitArtStyleType: ENTISH

Cities:
FANGORN
OLD FOREST
GREENWOOD
NELDORETH
REGION
NAN-TASARION
OROD-NA-THÔN
TAUR-NA-NELDOR
OSSIR WOODS
LAURELINDÓRENAN
CHETWOOD
AMBARÓNA
AEARERYN
ANARIKÊ
AEGAN
ZANJATAK
BALKULÔNI
DYR
FELAYJA
FAELAAN
GAN
TAURFALAS

Leader: TREEBEARD (Wise, Philosophical)


*BARBARIAN

Adjective: BARBARIAN
PlayerColour: DARK_GREY
ArtStyleType: SHADOW
UnitArtStyleType: SHADOW

Cities: N/A

Leader: N/A


ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

Extra city names courtesy of:

Guild Companion Gazeteer of Endor
Tolkien Enterprises
Sampsa Rydman.

I guess that my city lists conflict slightly with Elda King's Noldorin civs; some adjustments may be needed.
 
Good job, Pariah. Is that it, then? (or are we missing something)

I'll try to finish linking techs to appropriate stuff tomorrow, but i doubt i'll finish. i'm going to the beach tomorrow, and i've some school work to finish before school starts :sad:

I'll get it done this weekend, promise :)
 
Good job, Pariah. Is that it, then? (or are we missing something)

The Longbeards are the race of Durin, yes. The other 3 Dwarf civs are meant to represent 2 fathers each.

I think that should be enough - unless we decide, after all, that we want a Hobbit civ...
 
Great, really great. About the names, don't bother about it, in my older version many places were used twice, or even more times (there were the cities of Laurelindórinan, Lórien, Lothlórien...). Now it's only do it. :mischief:

where do you find XMLspy?
They are releasing a new version now, so there isn't a Home Edition available for download. But you can download the trial for the new version, or I can send you the older version I have.
 
What I meant was, let's not use the exact same name twice! OK for dwarves to have a city of Khazad-Dum and the Shadow to have one called Moria (did that in my Civ2 mod); but we don't want both the House of Finarfin and the Nature civ to have "Nan-Tathren" as a city. Call it "Willow Valley" for the latter civ, perhaps...

Oh - and I just realised that I used the names Araman & Avathar twice in the same city list (Teleri). Apologies, I've amended it.
 
Are you sure you don't want Mithlond as a Falathrim city? I don't remember its history much, but I thought Cirdan lived there in the Third Age.
(Same with Imladris - except to Sindar)
 
Mithlond was founded by the remnant of the Noldor after the War of Wrath. It was ruled by Gil-Galad (grandson of Fingolfin) throughgout the 2nd Age.
 
Here's a (hopefully!) final ammendment. Sorry to mess you around, Thomas. :( I've integrated Elda King's Noldorin city lists with my own, using his wonderful new Elvish names, and eliminated any direct name duplications - this required changing 7 other lists.

*HOUSE OF FËANOR
Adjective: FËANOREAN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_ORANGE
ArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH

Cities:
FORMENOS
HIMRING
MARCH_OF_MAEDHROS
LOTHLANN
THARGELION
AGLON_PASS
HIMLAD
MAGLOR'S_GAP
HELEVORN
EAST_BELERIAND
OST-IN-EDHIL
EREGION
HELKLAD
MIRGROD
ESGALIEN
SEREGION

Leader: FËANOR (Creative, Aggressive)
MAEDHROS: (wise, Industrious).


*HOUSE OF FINGOLFIN
Adjective: NOLDO
PlayColour: LIGHT_YELLOW
ArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH

Cities:
MITHRIM
DRENGIST
HITHLUM
VINYAMAR
NEVRAST
GONDOLIN
ERED LÓMIN
EITHEL_SIRION
ARVENIEN
MITHLOND
FORLOND
HARLOND
LINDON
IMLADRIS
LOSDOR
AMON CELEB
ERYN LAUREGLIN

Leader: FINGOLFIN (Protective, Expansive)
FINGON: (organised, Wise).


*HOUSE OF FINARFIN
Adjective: NOLDORIN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_RED
ArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType HIGH_ELVISH

Cities:
TIRION
NARGOTHROND
MINAS_TIRITH
DORTHONION
ERED WETHRIN
ARD_GALEN
TALATH_DIRNEN
BARAD_NIMRAS
TAR-EN-FAUROTH
AMON_RUDH
WEST_BELERIAND
CARAS_GALADHON
LAURELINDÓRENAN
NIMPHLOND
GAERWING
SIROST
DUNAR

Leader: FINROD (Protective, Wise)
GALADRIEL (Philosphical, Wise).


*SINDAR
Adjective: SINDARIN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_GREY
ArtStyleType: HIGH_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType: HIGH_ELVISH

Cities:
MENEGROTH
DORIATH
NELDORETH
EGLADOR
REGION
SIRION VALE
NAN ELMOTH
DIMBAR
EITHEL IVRIN
ANACH
ARD-GALEN
LOTHLÓRIEN
CERIN AMROTH
ERYN LASGALEN
CELEBRANT FIELD
EAST LÓRIEN
ITHILIEN

Leader: ELU_THINGOL (Protective, Philosophical)
MELIAN (Creative, Protective).

*FALATHRIM
Adjective: FALATHRIM
PlayerColour: LIGHT_PURPLE
ArtStyleType: LOW_ELVISH
UnitArtStyleType: LOW_ELVISH

Cities:
BRITHOMBAR
EGLARAST
TOL BALAR
NIMBRETHIL
NENNING
CELOS
LINAEWEN
NAN-TATHREN
FORLINDON
HARLINDON
TOL FUIN
MINAS HYARRÓMENAR
CARAS CELAIRNEN
CERIN BALGRIST
GALATHIVEL
MISTALONDË
NADIOR
TOL UIALGAER

Leader: CÍRDAN (Seafaring, Financial).


*BËORIAN
Adjective: BËORIAN
PlayerColour: DARK_CYAN
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH

Cities:
ESTOLAD
LADROS
NIBIN-NOGRIM
BRITHON
GLITHUI
RINGWIL
SNOWTHORN
RIVIL
ARROSIACH
AELUIN
ANDRAM
DIMROST
NAROG VALE
RILDOLACH
NIRMOLIAN
ATHILIN
TOL MORWEN

Leader: BËOR (Wise, Philosophical)
BARAHIR (Protective, Organised).


*HADORIAN
Adjective: HADORIAN
PlayerColour: LIGHT_CYAN
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH

Cities:
DOR-LÓMIN
CIRITH NINIATH
EITHEL SIRION
SERECH FEN
GALENROS
CIRITH CELEGORM
ENEDMOS
CILUMË
CELEBROS
NEN LALAITH
AMON DARTHIR
HAUDH-EN-NIRNAETH
CABED-EN-ARAS
BAURUIN
ALLIMIR
CITHRENOR
ANNON BARAN
ANNITHIR
BREGNAS

Leader: HADOR LÓRINDOL (Aggressive, Protective)
HÚRIN (Aggressive, Organised).


*HALETHRIM
Adjective: HALETHRIM
PlayerColour: PEACH
ArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH
UnitArtStyleType: MIDDLE-MANNISH

Cities:
BRETHIL
EPHEL BRANDIR
TEIGLIN VALE
AMON OBEL
BRITHIACH
AELIN-UIAL
IANT IAUR
MALDUIN
AMON ETHIR
HAUDH-EN-ELLETH
NEN GIRITH
NELVORIN
ANGLOR
GWAELIN
BREE
ARCHET
COMBE
STADDLE

Leader: HALETH (Protective, Creative)
BRANDIR (Protective, Wise).


*FIREBEARD DWARF
Adjective: FIREBEARD
PlayerColour: DARK_RED
ArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES
UnitArtStyleType: WEST_DWARVES

Cities:
NOGROD
BELEGOST
NULUKKIZDÎN
NAN-I-NAUGRIM
SARN ATHRAD
ERED LINDON
NÚMERIADOR
TALATH MUIL
LHÚN VALLEY
RERIR
DOLMED
PITKÄRANTA
TUMNOGOTH IAUR
EGENYAR
LANTHIR LAMATH
BARNAS
LITASH

Leader: AZAGHÂL (Industrious, Creative)
TELCHAR (Industrious, Expansive).


*MINOR (Unplayable)
Adjective: NATURE
PlayerColour: DARK_GREEN
ArtStyleType: ENTISH
UnitArtStyleType: ENTISH

Cities:
FANGORN
OLD FOREST
GREENWOOD
NAN-TASARION
OROD-NA-THÔN
TAUR-NA-NELDOR
OSSIR WOODS
CHETWOOD
AMBARÓNA
AEARERYN
ANARIKÊ
AEGAN
ZANJATAK
BALKULÔNI
DYR
FELAYJA
FAELAAN
GAN
TAURFALAS

Leader: TREEBEARD (Wise, Philosophical)


We now have 26 playable civs, plus the Nature civ - still well below the total for normal BTS. No need to get rid of the Avari!:p I reckon 2 or 3 separate Shadow-type civs might be be possible (Orcs and Goblins? Utumno, Mordor and Angmar?)
 
We've already said no Isengard, so that won't work. I think Utumno/Angband, Mordor and Angmar would work, I don't think there are any other 'evil empires' that aren't run by Men.
 
We've already said no Isengard, so that won't work.

I've used Isengard as the capital of the Dunland civ.

Let's see if Elda King & Thomas approve of multiple Shadow civs. 2 of 3 city lists wouldn't be difficult to fill!
 
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