Clues you've been playing too much FFH

[rocklikeafool]

LOL!



And for the logical argumentative side of me:
I think it's like the God of the Hebrews and Christians. In Hebrew, his name is Yavweh (pronounced YOW--[long 'A' sound]). But in English, that's translated to Jahoveh. Similarly, the Jews write God as G_d, to show respect, and never speak the word 'God' casually. And the Christians always write God.

My point bein that a difference in names is prolly due to languages.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

In general, I would tend to agree with rlaf about the differences being linguistic. With species as different as humans and lizardmen it would make sense for them to be unable to pronounce the same names. I'm not sure I agree with his example though.


Its not Yavweh, its YHWH, the Tetragrammaton (Yahweh is our best guess though). There is no way to know if there is a long A sound. No one knows the vowels. Hebrew did not have vowel points at the time the scriptures were written, and since the Jews were so careful not to take the name in vain, the proper pronunciation has long been lost. (This may be in part because when the commandment not to blaspheme the name was translated to Aramaic the word used also meant pronounce.) (Samaritans preserved the pronuciation as Yahwe or Yahwa.) The misreading "Jehovah" comes from putting the vowel points of of Adonai (the title, "lord") in between the consonants of the tetragrammaton to remind readers to use the title instead of the name. (Sometimes Elohim was used instead of Adonai.)

There are some Christians who emulate Jewish practice and avoid saying God directly. Circumlocutions in references to the divine were quire common among Christians a couple centuries ago.

 

[KillerClowns]

473. See previous three (EDIT: and next two) posts.

 

[rocklikeafool]

In general, I would tend to agree with rlaf about the differences being linguistic. With species as different as humans and lizardmen it would make sense for them to be unable to pronounce the same names. I'm not sure I agree with his example though.


Its not Yavweh, its YHWH, the Tetragrammaton (Yahweh is our best guess though). There is no way to know if there is a long A sound. No one knows the vowels. Hebrew did not have vowel points at the time the scriptures were written, and since the Jews were so careful not to take the name in vain, the proper pronunciation has long been lost. (This may be in part because when the commandment not to blaspheme the name was translated to Aramaic the word used also meant pronounce.) (Samaritans preserved the pronuciation as Yahwe or Yahwa.) The misreading "Jehovah" comes from putting the vowel points of of Adonai (the title, "lord") in between the consonants of the tetragrammaton to remind readers to use the title instead of the name. (Sometimes Elohim was used instead of Adonai.)

There are some Christians who emulate Jewish practice and avoid saying God directly. Circumlocutions in references to the divine were quire common among Christians a couple centuries ago.

Hey, man. I was jus goin off of wat I've heard Jews say, how they pronounce it. I know the Jewish alphabet caused some problems for the other languages (when translated) cuz of the fact that it is, as you said, Tetragrammaton.

And, yes, some Christians do emulate the practice of not sayin God directly. But in general, many don't. Even goin so far as to break one of the 10 Commandments, "Don't take the name of Lord in vain", by sayin "Oh my God". Anyway, nough religious/linguistic debate. We're stealin the thread.

474. You've often noticed that Elohim, the Jewish word meanin "Fullness of the Gentiles", doesn't describe the Elohim civ well cuz they are no Jews in dark fantasy mods. It's also an Easter Egg; see the thread on "Easter Eggs".

 

[MagisterCultuum]

"Fullness of the Gentiles"? I don't think so. Fullness of the Gentiles would be "melo ha goyim." Elohim means God. Its from "El," which means "strong one" or god (in the generic sense, referring to any deity). Elohim is plural in form, but it was a "plural of majesty" (not unlike "the royal we") and was used with singular verbs. (It was also used by Canaanites to refer to the entire pantheon, the sons of El, the original god, who were ruled by Hadad/Baal.)


There may be no Jews in FfH per se, but Tolkien based his Dwarves on Jews and our Dwarves are rather Tolkienesque.

 

[rocklikeafool]

"Fullness of the Gentiles"? I don't think so. Fullness of the Gentiles would be "melo ha goyim."

Oh, duh! I knew that. Sorry. I was tired when I wrote that. Why am I always tired when I post on the forum? ::sigh:: And, yes, Elohim means strong god. Sorry, like I said, was tired.

 

[abculatter2]

473. you argue over what words in FfH mean.

474. you argue over these in a thread about clues you've played too much FfH

 

[[NWO]_Valis]

475. You wonder why you are so tired when you write something on the forum.

 

[rocklikeafool]

476. On a regular basis, you consume a large amount of caffeine to support your FfH addiction.

 

[Ekolite]

477. You can pronounce and spell all of the Cualli and Maztyl (Fall Further) city names and recall the exact order in which they are founded.

478. You have renamed all of the Dural cities to better suit the Dark fantasy theme. Sorry vehem but they really suck .

479. You have learned modding just to add yourself as a leader for your favourite civ. (hmmm that's a good idea actually)

450. You have joined the FFH Facebook group.

 

[wig]

451. Whenever you're in unfamiliar territory, like on a business trip or vacation, you make sure to stick close to a wooded hill.

452. You're thinking about getting a hawk to replace your home security system.

 

[Aoleleb]

479. You have learned modding just to add yourself as a leader for your favourite civ. (hmmm that's a good idea actually)

Pfft. 483. You've added a whole new civilization for you to be the leader of

 

[rocklikeafool]

484. You're glad that Kael has joined the FfH Facebook group. LOL!

 

[Kael]

484. You're glad that Kael has joined the FfH Facebook group. LOL!

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[Thimblyjoe]

485. You think there should be a facebook NETWORK for FfH
486. You find it annoying how everyone keeps on making up new clues about how they post on the goddamn clues and are now going to go kill yourself for participating in this horrible incestuous circlejerk.
487. You no longer consider someone your hero because they aren't gaining 1 xp per turn and are still below 100 xp.

 

[rocklikeafool]

488. You're wonderin if this thread will really get to 1,000.
489. Every time you see a torch, you wonder if it was lit usin Fire I or Fire II.

 

[Thimblyjoe]

488. You're wonderin if this thread will really get to 1,000.

486. You find it annoying how everyone keeps on making up new clues about how they post on the goddamn clues and are now going to go kill yourself for participating in this horrible incestuous circlejerk.

see what I mean?

 

[rocklikeafool]

see what I mean?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I'll stop now.

 

[Thimblyjoe]

I was fine with the first one or two... either way, on to happier thoughts.

490. You've seriously considered feasting on your family's blood to pad your resumé...
edit: 492. You find feasting on your family's blood a happier thought...

 

[xienwolf]

491: You have never posted on this thread, because you actually DO play too much FfH, rather than just going to the FfH forums too often (which is what half of these are about recently)

EDIT: BTW, one of the biggest signs you post on the forums too much would be making 5 or 6 completely useless/redundant "signs of" items just so you can claim the position of #500... with another useless/redundant "sign of"