Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
The models changed a bit since that preview...
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Stormrage
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Well give us another preview then!
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Your gonna have to wait till the unit is finished..
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I thought the Ancient Egyptians could use a what-if unit representing the 18th and 19th century.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
You think so? I'll try your suggestion. Seems about right since only Pharoahs woar that war crown, and even though this unit is fictional, I'd say this ancient egyptian civilization we are going with, still heavyly steeped in tradition, would keep that rule..
Bjornlo
Deity
This guy looks more like a 17-18th century French cavalry officer than an Egyptian infantry man. The rifle looks newer still, like 19th to 20th century.
Suggestions:
Make his headgear a plain white turban. What he is wearing would be civ colored. As I understand it the color of the headdress has some significance to them. Also lose the jewelry on the head dress.
The boots are very high. Is he supposed to be a cavalry guy? Perhaps not quite so high?
Those old guns are terrifically heavy. He would seldom (if ever) hold it with one hand.
Delete the eplauts. They were almost always just for officers.
The weird mixture of Egyptian loincloth from the BC era and the cavalry pants from the 17th century doesn't work.
There were actual rifle/musket men in Egypt in this era and they looked nothing like this.
I suggest you at least loosely pattern the unit after those units that did exist there during this time.
For example:
The Mamluks (also spelled Mamelukes). They fought Napoleon and then later fought for him too. And outlasted his power in Egypt... They were basically knocked from major power in 1811.
From answers.com
During their service in Napoleon’s army, the Mamluk squadron wore the following uniform:
Before 1804: The only "uniform" part was the green cahouk (hat), white turban, and red saroual (pants), all to be worn with a loose shirt and a vest. Boots were of yellow, red or tan soft leather. Weapons consisted of an "Oriental" scimitar, a brace of pistols in a holder decorated with a brass crescent and star, and a dagger.
After 1804: The cahouk became red with a brass crescent and star and the shirt was closed and had a collar. The main change was the addition of a "regulation" chasseur-style saddle-cloth and roll, imperial green in color, piped red, with a red and white fringe. The saddle and harness remained Arabic in style. The undress uniform was as for the Chasseurs-a-Cheval of the Guard but of a dark blue cloth.
some sample uniforms that are more period and location appropriate.
another view... with his horse, as the Mamluks were typically mounted.
I think a plainer white turban like this Mamluk has on would look better in game.
Naturally there would be some variation in this attire, but unlike you French look, it would be more fitting for the region.
Also on another note. Please do not compare yourself to Kinboat, etc.
You are getting better. Your last unit was your best to date, but there is significant differences in skill between a master and an up and comer. Also, it is really tacky and an act of considerable hubris to toot your own horn. Leave that to others, trust me they will let you know when you have approached mastery in your skills.
Consider that your last unit, while more animated and with better detailing in that animation, and some nice things here and there (such as a some smoke, less stiff, etc) it was no where near Kinboat. The timing was off. Too many animation details were missing (still stiff, limited animation... didn't seem to breath the way say Kinboat’s Monk does (since you are comparing yourself to him)).
Work on adding more animation details. Keep his bits and pieces from poking through the clothing. Have all the props and such match the unit. Have him die without poking arms and legs through the ground, etc.
Suggestions:
Make his headgear a plain white turban. What he is wearing would be civ colored. As I understand it the color of the headdress has some significance to them. Also lose the jewelry on the head dress.
The boots are very high. Is he supposed to be a cavalry guy? Perhaps not quite so high?
Those old guns are terrifically heavy. He would seldom (if ever) hold it with one hand.
Delete the eplauts. They were almost always just for officers.
The weird mixture of Egyptian loincloth from the BC era and the cavalry pants from the 17th century doesn't work.
There were actual rifle/musket men in Egypt in this era and they looked nothing like this.
I suggest you at least loosely pattern the unit after those units that did exist there during this time.
For example:
The Mamluks (also spelled Mamelukes). They fought Napoleon and then later fought for him too. And outlasted his power in Egypt... They were basically knocked from major power in 1811.
From answers.com
During their service in Napoleon’s army, the Mamluk squadron wore the following uniform:
Before 1804: The only "uniform" part was the green cahouk (hat), white turban, and red saroual (pants), all to be worn with a loose shirt and a vest. Boots were of yellow, red or tan soft leather. Weapons consisted of an "Oriental" scimitar, a brace of pistols in a holder decorated with a brass crescent and star, and a dagger.
After 1804: The cahouk became red with a brass crescent and star and the shirt was closed and had a collar. The main change was the addition of a "regulation" chasseur-style saddle-cloth and roll, imperial green in color, piped red, with a red and white fringe. The saddle and harness remained Arabic in style. The undress uniform was as for the Chasseurs-a-Cheval of the Guard but of a dark blue cloth.
some sample uniforms that are more period and location appropriate.
another view... with his horse, as the Mamluks were typically mounted.
I think a plainer white turban like this Mamluk has on would look better in game.
Naturally there would be some variation in this attire, but unlike you French look, it would be more fitting for the region.
Also on another note. Please do not compare yourself to Kinboat, etc.
You are getting better. Your last unit was your best to date, but there is significant differences in skill between a master and an up and comer. Also, it is really tacky and an act of considerable hubris to toot your own horn. Leave that to others, trust me they will let you know when you have approached mastery in your skills.
Consider that your last unit, while more animated and with better detailing in that animation, and some nice things here and there (such as a some smoke, less stiff, etc) it was no where near Kinboat. The timing was off. Too many animation details were missing (still stiff, limited animation... didn't seem to breath the way say Kinboat’s Monk does (since you are comparing yourself to him)).
Work on adding more animation details. Keep his bits and pieces from poking through the clothing. Have all the props and such match the unit. Have him die without poking arms and legs through the ground, etc.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
This unit isn't supposed to be historical, its a what-if unit Bjorn..
Bjornlo
Deity
But still, it is not supposed to be french is it? It is supposed to be a certain period of Egyptian rifleman. Those men actually existed. They did not look vaguely like frenchmen with an addon skirt.Sword_Of_Geddon said:This unit isn't supposed to be historical, its a what-if unit Bjorn..
It is not quite the same as a what-if for a nation that ceased to be. For example, an Aztecan paratrooper... they never had that.
While yours is sorta a frenchman in drag.... an not dressed like the fighters of the region dressed in that time. The fact is, that you do have historical figures from the place and time in question.
This unit is just as silly as putting an american indian in a russian hat and calling it a "what-if" russian mountain scout.
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Well, thats an ANCIENT egyptian what-if unit You know, Pharaohs, Pyramids `n sh!t like that.. 
You know, Pharaohs, Pyramids `n sh!t like that..
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Stormrage said:Well, thats an ANCIENT egyptian what-if unit
Exactly! What is it about that you don't understand Bjorn?
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
He thought it was a normal 18 century egyptian
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I think he wants it to be like that. Not everyone is a fan of what-if units.
Bjornlo
Deity
I understand just fine. I just don't think a frenchman in drag makes for a good egyptian of any kind.Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Just what is the "what if" you're asking here?
You said 18-19th century egyptian. What about that figure is either of those things?
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Actually, it seems that you don`t understand.
Teh uniform looks 18 or 19 centurry, and the headdress and the loincloth looks ancient egyptian
Teh uniform looks 18 or 19 centurry, and the headdress and the loincloth looks ancient egyptian
7ronin
海軍少佐
You've got another hit there Swoggy! I agree with Plotinus though about changing the head gear. I mean what if they still have a Pharoah? The troops wouldn't be wearing his crown. Maybe a fez or an ordinary turban would work.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I changed the headgear into something like an ancient egyptian-style fez...I think it works..
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Preview please! 
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