Compulsory DNA checks at birth ?

How the hell could I have hit 20 when I've never even bleeping been there before? :mad:

Using other Murdoch empire stuff maybe?

Oh, it's not a Murdoch empire paper. Whoops.
 
Being a father and being a dad are different things. You raise 3 kids for 12, 14 and 16 years, you're their dad. You're on the hook for child support.

Agreed. But I also agree that if you for all intends and purposes were the dad of a child, you are liable for child support. If DNA/faithfulness of the woman plays a role in your decision - get a test. One you have decided to be dad - you have entered an irrevocable responsibility.

So, if your wife gets pregnant, and you reluctantly or otherwise accept the role of a father, thinking the kid is yours, you're hooked for life? The way I see it a man is responsible for his own kids and his own kids only. I say let the biological dad(s) pay for the child support. I know I would be pretty pissed if my wife committed paternity fraud and forced my to pay for someone else's kids.

Besides, paternity fraud is surprisingly common, some say 10% of us aren't fathered by the man we think we are.
 
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Wait what it says pancake as if that's the name? Must be a nick name
 
So, if your wife gets pregnant, and you reluctantly or otherwise accept the role of a father, thinking the kid is yours, you're hooked for life? The way I see it a man is responsible for his own kids and his own kids only. I say let the biological dad(s) pay for the child support. I know I would be pretty pissed if my wife committed paternity fraud and forced my to pay for someone else's kids.

Besides, paternity fraud is surprisingly common, some say 10% of us aren't fathered by the man we think we are.

Who should pay to raise adopted kids? By raising these children as his own, he's adopted them as his own.

If you found out tonight that your mom had cheated on your dad, and you were not biologically his son, would he still be your dad?
 
While I'm not crazy about having a wife who is banging other dudes ( sorry, not 1/1000th liberal enough for that even under a full moon ) I'm also not so convinced that my DNA is valuable :lol:

It sure hasn't done me too many favors.

If you found out tonight that your mom had cheated on your dad, and you were not biologically his son, would he still be your dad?

Hell yes. I would be a little shocked at my mom, but I would learn not to hold it against her. My Dad was a solid father who probably spoiled me if anything. He worked until he nearly ground his spine to nothing for us. That's far more important than squirting things into other things.

EDIT: Is that woman seriously named Pancake? Is it the idiocracy already?
 
Do you think the rate of adultery is really that much higher than it was 50 years ago?

What we are seeing is a breakdown of the family that is far greater than it has been. Adultery is part of the problem but not the whole problem. The breakdown of family ultimately means the breakdown of society, since the family is the most basic building block of society.
 
Of course the only solution is to force everyone to be religious, even if we're actively opposed to it. Perhaps especially those of us who are actively opposed to it.

Trash culture is a problem of its own. It has nothing to do with being a nonbeliever. We don't look any more fondly on Honey Boo Boo, Hoarders, or Jersey Shore than you do, but we're not buying the solution you are selling.
 
Who should pay to raise adopted kids? By raising these children as his own, he's adopted them as his own.

If you found out tonight that your mom had cheated on your dad, and you were not biologically his son, would he still be your dad?

For the father whom found out hes children was not hes own, it would be devastating. It meant that the wife has been unfaithful, dishonest and completely changes everything.

Do you love your wife anymore ? Would this also change your feeling for your child ?

Dose your wife have responsibility for this ? Is the person whom cheated with also have responsibility ?

There should not be just the one law for handling this, its just to complicated. But the biological father having unprotected sex should also have some responsibility for this.
 
Yes it would be devastating. but child support is about the kids, not the wife. Whatever evil it is to make a guy pay for kids that aren't his, it's worse of an evil to deprive those kids of a parent and the financial support of said parent.
 
Yes it would be devastating. but child support is about the kids, not the wife. Whatever evil it is to make a guy pay for kids that aren't his, it's worse of an evil to deprive those kids of a parent and the financial support of said parent.

What about if couple married, wife first child is born but husband is suspicious so a DNA test is done, which say takes 14 days, child is 14 days old and is found out not to be biological dad, Would the husband or the biological father pay for childcare ?
 
What we are seeing is a breakdown of the family that is far greater than it has been. Adultery is part of the problem but not the whole problem. The breakdown of family ultimately means the breakdown of society, since the family is the most basic building block of society.
Families are fine. It's reactionary (and not even all that old!) "nuclear family" models that are breaking down.

On topic, I agree with those who have said that once you've been a dad to your children, even though they are not biologically yours, you are responsible for them. If you only want to take care for your biological children, make a DNA test right after birth.
 
That's a rather narrow definition.

What about those without any such relatives? Beyond my parents, at one stage my next nearest relative was my mother's cousin. Who was named as guardian for my siblings and me, in the event of my parents' death.
 
That's a rather narrow definition.

What about those without any such relatives? Beyond my parents, at one stage my next nearest relative was my mother's cousin. Who was named as guardian for my siblings and me, in the event of my parents' death.

Can't rules and statements have exceptions to them :cry:
 
Sure. Of course. Naturally.

Don't cry. There, there.

But I'm really keen on the "All children are all adults' responsibility."

Isn't it true?

Don't teachers, f'r'nstance, have a role in loco parentis?

If you find a small child lost in the forest, don't you have a responsibility towards it?

Don't tax payers have a responsibility for minors?
 
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