Crossroads of the World and Right to Rule DLC - themed predictions based on what we know

[Isengardtom]

Dur - Sharrukin could mean Sargon II

 

[Zaarin]

Dur - Sharrukin could mean Sargon II

I think choosing an "oblique" choice would suit their strategy of broad representation (especially since Sumer seems less likely than Babylon and Assyria), but Assyria has no shortage of interesting leader choices (I'm still stanning for Esarhaddon).

 

[Archanist]

This is a table for the unassociated wonders (that we know of) and their respective civs in history. Let me know if there's a mistake.

Antiquity	Emille Bell	Silla
	Colossus	Greece
	Dur-Sharrukin	Assyria
	Haamonga a Maui	Tonga
	Hanging Gardens	Babylon
	Mausoleum of Theodoric	Ostrogoths
	Nalanda	Gupta
	Petra	Nabataeans
	Pyramid of the Sun	Teotihuacan
	Terracotta Army	Qin
Exploration	Norte-Dame	Francia
	Shwedagon Zedi Daw	Burma
Modern	Oxford University	England
	Red Fort	Mughal

 

[ombak]

Silla and Joseon are two of the civs I am most looking forward to, but I can't imagine them being in Crossroads of the World. Morocco is also one I look forward to.

Like most others I would guess we'll get 2 Antiquity, 1 Exploration for one of the announced DLC and 1 Modern and 1 Antiquity, 1 Exploration, 2 Modern for the other announced DLC this year.

I wonder if we won't get Britain until "Right to Rule". I feel like it fits that theme more so than Crossroads.

I would bet on a Mesopotamian civ for Antiquity and the Ottomans for Modern. Maybe two modern civs, with Britain, or maybe Britain is later in Right to Rule.

 

[Zaarin]

I wonder if we won't get Britain until "Right to Rule". I feel like it fits that theme more so than Crossroads.

It's the only modern civ that has an unclaimed wonder in the game at the moment which makes it a pretty strong candidate for Crossroads of the World, unless CotW is 3 Antiquity, 1 Exploration--which is possible.

I would bet on a Mesopotamian civ for Antiquity and the Ottomans for Modern.

I agree we'll get Ottomans for Modern in Right to Rule...unless their associated wonder is bafflingly Red Fort.

 

[lo24681]

part of me does wonder how relevant the titles of the dlc waves will be. Cause it could be not relevant at all and just them trying to come up with a decent name.

 

[Zaarin]

part of me does wonder how relevant the titles of the dlc waves will be. Cause it could be not relevant at all and just them trying to come up with a decent name.

This is my take. The theme of the DLC will be "what we couldn't cram into the base game."

 

[ombak]

part of me does wonder how relevant the titles of the dlc waves will be. Cause it could be not relevant at all and just them trying to come up with a decent name.

I agree. I think it helps with guesses to some extent, but there's no telling if the name applies to all content or if they filled the rest out after being satisfied with the name and one or two of the civs/leaders fitting the theme. Who knows. I am now curious to see what sort of info we'll get in the livestream. I'll be surprised if it's more than a detailed schedule, but it won't be too long before we're hearing about the DLC civs if the first are in March.

 

[Evie]

I dom't think they're going to leave any civ with only its Vanilla 10 after Crossroads.

So that would be most likely 2-1-1 or, if Ancient gets 3, then 3-0-1 (since Shawnee is already in Exploration).

Given that Britain is a big glaring hole, while SE Asia is not doing too badly and France already has partial exploration rep and the French Empire in modern, I'd say 3-0-1 actually feels like it really could be it to me.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

part of me does wonder how relevant the titles of the dlc waves will be. Cause it could be not relevant at all and just them trying to come up with a decent name.

I am very skeptical about this too. Past naming of things has often had little to do with civ selections.

Leader Pass - literally leaders

New Frontier Pass - Just... because season passes were new

Gathering Storm - refers to the disasters mechanic

Rise and Fall - ???, besides being similar to the famous Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire by Gibbon and the mod for Civ 4, Rhyse and Fall. Rome was not introduced in this expansion

Brave New World - references the book of the same name by Huxley, no specific civs

God and Kings - references the religion mechanic, not any specific civs

 

[Lord Lakely]

Most titles are simply chosen because they sound cool. Like "Workshop of the World" isn't a real title anyway, but it sounds cool so was given to the English to give name their new Industrial bonus.

 

[Evie]

My gut say we're probably looking at them keeping Crossroads pretty diverse geographically; I doubt we're doubling up on Europe, Middle East or any other region in this.

In which case we get Britain in modern and Europe, so France and Goth are out; if we get anyone in exploration it's Burma, which would take up SE Asia-East Asia likely meaning no Silla. Babylon or Assyria get West Asia, so Nabateans are out. Gupta, Qin and Rhodes-Greece overlap existing civs too closely, so it s down to Tonga or Teotihuacan for the last slot. Of the two, Tonga better fit currently existing civs - the Pacific need an ancient civ, but it s exploration civs Mesoamerica need.

If Burma isn't in, and we have 3-0-1 instead, then Silla seems likely to be our third.

 

[Xandinho]

If I’m not mistaken, the University of Oxford is located quite early in the modern research tree. This means anyone can unlock it early, so having it as an associated wonder wouldn’t provide much of a benefit. This makes me think the University of Oxford won’t be the British wonder. It also seems like the Red Fort is unlocked early in the tree as well.

I’d like to access the modern research tree to confirm this, but I can’t seem to find it.

 

[Bast]

To the camp that's basically saying Southeast Asia is full, I agree. However, the wonder in question which is Burma's wonder and the fact that Burma has never been in the game is a good reason to include. In fact, Siam, Khmer, Majapahit (as Indonesia) have all been in the game already. But the civilization that beat back the Qing Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Burmese_War and lasted for 1,000 years during the rise and fall of Khmer, the rise and fall of Majapahit and responsible for the vassalization of Ayutthaya (Siam) is not in the game and has never been and is argued to be too full to get in the game. Yeah that's why I can't take the history of this game seriously and that it's really just about the potential to sell with well known civs and leaders.

Not to mention Tibet also, with the weak argument of China's wrath.

The best we'll probably get is just the Shwedagon wonder and the Potala Palace. I guess if I want real history, I'll have to look to games like EUIV

 

[Oberst Kraft]

Sample ideas for the Crossroads of the World DLC theme:

Nabateans - Petra was a cosmopolitan marketplace on a crossroad of caravan routes
Burma - Shwedagon had become the most famous Buddhist pilgrimage site in Burma where were transit points between the Indian Ocean and China
Britain - The Royal Navy guarded almost all of the world's important sea crossings
Medieval France - the Champagne fairs were one of the earliest manifestations of a linked European economy

 

[uppi]

I’d like to access the modern research tree to confirm this, but I can’t seem to find it.

 

[Zaarin]

Nabateans

I hope we get them eventually, but not before we get a Mesopotamian civ and Phoenicia.

 

[Krikkit1]

Cross:
Assyria, Tonga ?Ostroths?
?Burma?
Britain

Rule:
Carthage/Phoenecians if no Ostrogoths
1 or 2 of HRE/Aztec/Edo Japan/Byzantium
Ottomans, ???

 

[Xandinho]

The University of Oxford is in Academics, right at the beginning. The British unlocking it early in their civic tree wouldn’t provide any advantage. I believe their wonder will end up being the Big Ben.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

The University of Oxford is in Academics, right at the beginning. The British unlocking it early in their civic tree wouldn’t provide any advantage. I believe their wonder will end up being the Big Ben.

Besides that, Oxford is a Civ staple. It would be in, regardless of the association of civs and wonders. Big Ben (Elizabeth Tower) or some other edifice are equally capable be Britain's wonder.