Crossroads of the World and Right to Rule DLC - themed predictions based on what we know

[bbbt]

they're really adding two more South Asian civs to the game...

glad we're seeing more MENA civs added to the game, but they're now 4-1-1 from era to era. at least they've got a modern civ now.

still just 3 Sub-Saharan Africa civs, which is disappointing.

I'm surprised they'd run with a pack of Dai Vet - Assyria - Silla - Qajar. Assyria's a big-ish name, but I don't think any of those civs will move units on the scale of, say, Ottomans, Zulu, Aztec, or Portugal

South Korea is one of the top 5 game markets in the world. I'd guess Silla will certainly move units. I fully expect both Japan and South Korea to have a full set of 3 ages of civs by the end of this.

 

[j51]

I’m worried I’m going to be bored of the game by the time we get the Aztecs, Ottomans, Byzantium, more sub Saharan civs etc.

By the time we got the NFP civs I could have cared less. Civ VI’s gameplay had felt so stale by then that when I tried to play Gaul, Ethiopia, Maya, and the Byzantines, which are some of my favorites, I couldn’t even get past the Middle Ages.

 

[untitledjuan]

More South American and European civs desperately needed...

Let's hope that they add Colombia in the future, but with a more cultural focus and based on its overall history, not just the militaristic period of "Gran Colombia".

Other Latin American civs that should be included are:
-Brazil
-Argentina
-Haiti

Native civs from Latin America that should be included:
-Carib
-Arawak/Taíno
-Aztec
-Caral
-Tupi
-Mapuche
-Muisca

Also, I wouldn't complain if Canada is included as well, to have some French-colonial representation.

 

[AriochIV]

I’m worried I’m going to be bored of the game by the time we get the Aztecs, Ottomans, Byzantium, more sub Saharan civs etc.

It's okay to take a break. I usually do for about a year after the initial new Civ releases are too busted to play for more than a few months, and Firaxis pumps out DLC instead of fixing the problems.

 

[Zaarin]

Also, I wouldn't complain if Canada is included as well, to have some French-colonial representation.

Hopefully with a French-Canadian leader to make up for our lack of French leaders so far. (More seriously, I wouldn't hate Champlain.)

 

[j51]

It's okay to take a break. I usually do for about a year after the initial new Civ releases are too busted to play for more than a few months, and Firaxis pumps out DLC instead of fixing the problems.

I’ve done that with previous versions but something about VI didn’t have the same staying power. I might be being overly optimistic, but it looks like VII is designed to avoid stagnation.

 

[untitledjuan]

Hopefully with a French-Canadian leader to make up for our lack of French leaders so far. (More seriously, I wouldn't hate Champlain.)

As long as Ben Franklin doesn't count as an English leader, a French-Canadian leader also doesn't count as French.

 

[Zaarin]

As long as Ben Franklin doesn't count as an English leader, a French-Canadian leader also doesn't count as French.

I think Champlain would have considered himself French.

 

[AriochIV]

I’ve done that with previous versions but something about VI didn’t have the same staying power. I might be being overly optimistic, but it looks like VII is designed to avoid stagnation.

It is looking encouraging so far.

 

[Xandinho]

I’m worried I’m going to be bored of the game by the time we get the Aztecs, Ottomans, Byzantium, more sub Saharan civs etc.

By the time we got the NFP civs I could have cared less. Civ VI’s gameplay had felt so stale by then that when I tried to play Gaul, Ethiopia, Maya, and the Byzantines, which are some of my favorites, I couldn’t even get past the Middle Ages.

It's perfectly normal for enthusiasm to fade over the years, but expansions with new mechanics exist precisely to reignite that lost excitement. My enthusiasm for Civ6 used to be mountains of excitement every time I got my hands on a major new release. NFP still gave me some fun. My enthusiasm only completely dies when a new game in the franchise is on the horizon—like now, I can no longer go back to Civ6 when so many of Civ7’s new mechanics fill me with excitement.

 

[j51]

It's perfectly normal for enthusiasm to fade over the years, but expansions with new mechanics exist precisely to reignite that lost excitement. My enthusiasm for Civ6 used to be mountains of excitement every time I got my hands on a major new release. NFP still gave me some fun. My enthusiasm only completely dies when a new game in the franchise is on the horizon—like now, I can no longer go back to Civ6 when so many of Civ7’s new mechanics fill me with excitement.

Yeah I think part of VI’s problem was that the expansion mechanics added almost nothing fun to the game.

 

[Black Gate]

Pretty happy to see more Persia. I do hope though, that despite the slight anachronistic pairing, that Qajar's wonder is the Chehel Sotoun. Such a beautiful palace should've been in Civ a long time ago.

 

[Xandinho]

Pretty happy to see more Persia. I do hope though, that despite the slight anachronistic pairing, that Qajar's wonder is the Chehel Sotoun. Such a beautiful palace should've been in Civ a long time ago.

It's kind of strange that they didn't go for the Safavids, though. Could they be saving that for the Age of Exploration?

 

[Ornen]

It's kind of strange that they didn't go for the Safavids, though. Could they be saving that for the Age of Exploration?

modern era "starts" in 1750 and the second row of techs dates to 1900 (planning to make a separate thread on this, as the time jump here is very strange), so I don't think we'll see too many pre-1700 civs in modern. in that light, Safavids aren't such a great fit for Modern era

South Korea is one of the top 5 game markets in the world. I'd guess Silla will certainly move units. I fully expect both Japan and South Korea to have a full set of 3 ages of civs by the end of this.

yes, I agree we'll see 3x for each of these. but I also don't think the overall enthusiasm for Silla Korea matches that of mainstay civs like Aztec & Zulu. I also think the play for specific markets works better in base game or expansion, as opposed to a civ pack like this one (and especially when you're getting 1/3 of a Korea playthrough out of it, not the whole thing)

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

biggest gaps in my view:

• Antiquity Europe, with 0 civs north of the Mediterranean…
• South America, with only 1 civ so far

Europe is still underserved in all three Ages.
Antiquity has huge holes in the form of at least one Celtic civ (I’d prefer the Britons), one Germanic tribe (Goths seem obvious, but my wildcard pick is the Burgundians), and a Nordic/Scandinavian civ.

Speaking of, we need a full Nordic/Scandinavian line. Their absence is felt more sharply than the absence of food in the stomach of a starving child.

The Levant is also lacking representation in any Age. Even if we don’t get a full line right away, it’s ridiculous (and conspicuous, and suspicious) that we still don’t have the Hebrews / Israel / Judah.

It’s odd that Modern Persia is called Qajar instead of Iran, implying that other versions of Iran will be included in the game eventually. That seems excessive.

 

[moondog385]

That’s a pretty interesting list of civs and Lakshmibai is the kind of leader I was hoping to see. I wouldn’t have expected Nepal — I’ve been really pleased with the civ roster this game. Seems nothing is really off limits. Carthage instead of Phoenicia is a shame though.

Africa and America still desperately need to be fleshed out, but I guess neither really fit the theme of these packs?

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Africa and America still desperately need to be fleshed out, but I guess neither really fit the theme of these packs?

The idea of a DLC pack with Nazca and the Aztecs and some combination of Ethiopia and Wagadu and Swahili... Firaxis might as well take the money directly from my pocket at this very moment!

 

[AriochIV]

It’s odd that Modern Persia is called Qajar instead of Iran, implying that other versions of Iran will be included in the game eventually. That seems excessive.

I don't think that implies anything of the sort. Modern Germany is called Prussia, probably because they wanted to focus on that area of the modern age, not necessarily because they plan on introducing another Germany.

Firaxis is inconsistent with their naming choices. I think it's easy to read too much into them.

 

[lo24681]

with the Civs most likely leaked, main question now is if the release date for Crossroads is still in March, or if thats gonna be changed at all.

 

[untitledjuan]

Firaxis is inconsistent with their naming choices. I think it's easy to read too much into them.

Which is a shame, considering they were pretty much fairly consistent in previous games.