ChrTh
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chriseay said:
Agreed...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try
CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
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Agreed...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try
chriseay
The Master Trader
Preturn - All looks well, Satellites in 4.
(1) 1996 - Hatty comes looking for a trade. I try without the gold, but she won't bite. Kol Uni -> Supermarket.
(2) 1997 - Eiffel Tower is built in a far away land.
(3) 1998 - Aztecs get an engineer.
(4) 1999 - Satellites comes in and I really have no idea between Plastics and Mass media. I choose MM. I also start Calcutta on SDI.
(5) 2000 - 30 turns left. I suppose that means this is my last turnset for this game....hadn't realized.
(6) 2001 - Elizabeth builds a casing, so it looks like she is in the spaceship game too.
(7) 2002 - Washington comes offering Incense for Pigs. I of course decline.
(8) 2003 - Washington comes back again, looking for us to convert. It seems a bad idea. Then Izzy for open borders. No. Our empire has 20 million citizens, and Mass Media comes in. Plastics is the last in the row.
(9) 2004 - Washington has this stack down by Alexandria. We should be careful, because you can see his stance on us in the picture too. I think he's going to attack.
(10) 2005 - Hatty offers a defensive pact. No I say, because multi turn deals don't work. Also, Washington's stack seems to have left, but watch him closely.
Final thoughts/comments: I think we have to go for score here. I don't think at this point (25 turns) even if we could get the techs, we have the industrial capability to build the ship in time. Watch Washington carefully.
(1) 1996 - Hatty comes looking for a trade. I try without the gold, but she won't bite. Kol Uni -> Supermarket.
(2) 1997 - Eiffel Tower is built in a far away land.
(3) 1998 - Aztecs get an engineer.
(4) 1999 - Satellites comes in and I really have no idea between Plastics and Mass media. I choose MM. I also start Calcutta on SDI.
(5) 2000 - 30 turns left. I suppose that means this is my last turnset for this game....hadn't realized.
(6) 2001 - Elizabeth builds a casing, so it looks like she is in the spaceship game too.
(7) 2002 - Washington comes offering Incense for Pigs. I of course decline.
(8) 2003 - Washington comes back again, looking for us to convert. It seems a bad idea. Then Izzy for open borders. No. Our empire has 20 million citizens, and Mass Media comes in. Plastics is the last in the row.
(9) 2004 - Washington has this stack down by Alexandria. We should be careful, because you can see his stance on us in the picture too. I think he's going to attack.
(10) 2005 - Hatty offers a defensive pact. No I say, because multi turn deals don't work. Also, Washington's stack seems to have left, but watch him closely.
Final thoughts/comments: I think we have to go for score here. I don't think at this point (25 turns) even if we could get the techs, we have the industrial capability to build the ship in time. Watch Washington carefully.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Roster:
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mjj55409 -- On Deck
Dreylin
Ucel
chriseay -- Just Finished
scowler
Washington's stack has been there forever. While I am concerned he'll attack with it, I'm not sure he's anymore likely to do it just because they're hanging out there (I keep waiting for Hattie to cancel Open Borders with George ... hrm, maybe if I ask her if she comes calling again?)
I got it, I think I'll play now.
ChrTh -- UP
mjj55409 -- On Deck
Dreylin
Ucel
chriseay -- Just Finished
scowler
Washington's stack has been there forever. While I am concerned he'll attack with it, I'm not sure he's anymore likely to do it just because they're hanging out there (I keep waiting for Hattie to cancel Open Borders with George ... hrm, maybe if I ask her if she comes calling again?)
I got it, I think I'll play now.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Turn 0 -- 2005 AD
My last turnset ... barring a lot of skips. Here's to Gandhi: he lived the life of Riley while Riley was away.
Ok, Plastics due in 5. The first thing I'm going to research is Genetics for the health bonus (xenu knows we need it!).
ChrTh launches CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
Turn 1 -- 2006 AD
Mansa Musa adopts Org Rel.
Turn 2 -- 2007 AD
Hattie offers a Hit Musical for a Pig ... I am forced to decline.
Calcutta: SDI > Wealth
Turn 3 -- 2008 AD
Turn 4 -- 2009 AD
Isabella wants to swipe Sugar for Wine ... sorry
Turn 5 -- 2010 AD
Isabella demands Wine. Hrm, don't want to risk this, so I cave.
Plastics is in, start Genetics. Due in 8.
I think about starting some hydro plants, but I don't think it's necessary at this point; I'd rather get the wealth.
Turn 6 -- 2011 AD
Turn 7 -- 2012 AD
Washington has completed Docking Bay (he has Robotics). He needs 4 more techs to be able to build all the techs ... 18 turns? I don't see it as being likely.
Turn 8 -- 2013 AD
Hattie wants open borders, but I decline. Still Friendly.
Turn 9 -- 2014 AD
Turn 10 -- 2015 AD
Jaipur loves the Prime Minister!
Ok, 3 turns to Genetics, 15 turns to a possible Score victory. Washington has Composites now, he needs 2 more techs to finish the spaceship. However, he also needs to build 2 thrusters and 4 other parts. He's also been catching up in score. Hrmmm ... this might be close
Roster:
ChrTh -- Just Finished
mjj55409 -- UP
Dreylin -- On Deck
Ucel
chriseay
scowler
Here's the save:
View attachment 114594
My last turnset ... barring a lot of skips. Here's to Gandhi: he lived the life of Riley while Riley was away.
Ok, Plastics due in 5. The first thing I'm going to research is Genetics for the health bonus (xenu knows we need it!).
ChrTh launches CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
Turn 1 -- 2006 AD
Mansa Musa adopts Org Rel.
Turn 2 -- 2007 AD
Hattie offers a Hit Musical for a Pig ... I am forced to decline.
Calcutta: SDI > Wealth
Turn 3 -- 2008 AD
Turn 4 -- 2009 AD
Isabella wants to swipe Sugar for Wine ... sorry
Turn 5 -- 2010 AD
Isabella demands Wine. Hrm, don't want to risk this, so I cave.
Plastics is in, start Genetics. Due in 8.
I think about starting some hydro plants, but I don't think it's necessary at this point; I'd rather get the wealth.
Turn 6 -- 2011 AD
Turn 7 -- 2012 AD
Washington has completed Docking Bay (he has Robotics). He needs 4 more techs to be able to build all the techs ... 18 turns? I don't see it as being likely.
Turn 8 -- 2013 AD
Hattie wants open borders, but I decline. Still Friendly.
Turn 9 -- 2014 AD
Turn 10 -- 2015 AD
Jaipur loves the Prime Minister!
Ok, 3 turns to Genetics, 15 turns to a possible Score victory. Washington has Composites now, he needs 2 more techs to finish the spaceship. However, he also needs to build 2 thrusters and 4 other parts. He's also been catching up in score. Hrmmm ... this might be close
Roster:
ChrTh -- Just Finished
mjj55409 -- UP
Dreylin -- On Deck
Ucel
chriseay
scowler
Here's the save:
View attachment 114594
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Did I break a rule by giving the wine to Isabella? 
Good lord, what did we decide about that?
Good lord, what did we decide about that?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Guys, I'm going to play again. Reviewing the posts, I never should've gave in for Wine. Look for the updated save shortly.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Take Two
Turn 0 -- 2005 AD
My last turnset ... barring a lot of skips. Here's to Gandhi: he lived the life of Riley while Riley was away.
Ok, Plastics due in 5. The first thing I'm going to research is Genetics for the health bonus (xenu knows we need it!).
ChrTh launches CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
I let Delhi grow again since it won't be unhappy at 18. I try to get some growth out of a couple other cities as well.
Turn 1 -- 2006 AD
MM adopts Org Rel.
Turn 2 -- 2007 AD
Hattie still wants to trade Hit Musical for Pigs. Still decline.
Calcutta: SDI > Red Cross (extra points for Wonders)
Turn 3 -- 2008 AD
Turn 4 -- 2009 AD
Hrm, history is changing already
Turn 5 -- 2010 AD
Plastics comes in, start Genetics
Turn 6 -- 2011 AD
Elizabeth finishes Casing. I didn't note this last time, but I don't recall if she was in the space race before.
Turn 7 -- 2012 AD
Washington completes Docking Bay
Turn 8 -- 2013 AD
Calcutta: Red Cross > Wealth
Turn 9 -- 2014 AD
Turn 10 -- 2015 AD
Ok, no rules violations that time! I did change a couple things from before, like building Red Cross and changing population, but since I was fully intending to have the next player do that, I don't feel like I cheated or anything. If someone disagrees, I'll do the turns yet again ...
Here's the save:
View attachment 114604
Turn 0 -- 2005 AD
My last turnset ... barring a lot of skips. Here's to Gandhi: he lived the life of Riley while Riley was away.
Ok, Plastics due in 5. The first thing I'm going to research is Genetics for the health bonus (xenu knows we need it!).
ChrTh launches CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
I let Delhi grow again since it won't be unhappy at 18. I try to get some growth out of a couple other cities as well.
Turn 1 -- 2006 AD
MM adopts Org Rel.
Turn 2 -- 2007 AD
Hattie still wants to trade Hit Musical for Pigs. Still decline.
Calcutta: SDI > Red Cross (extra points for Wonders)
Turn 3 -- 2008 AD
Turn 4 -- 2009 AD
Hrm, history is changing alreadyTurn 5 -- 2010 AD
Plastics comes in, start Genetics
Turn 6 -- 2011 AD
Elizabeth finishes Casing. I didn't note this last time, but I don't recall if she was in the space race before.
Turn 7 -- 2012 AD
Washington completes Docking Bay
Turn 8 -- 2013 AD
Calcutta: Red Cross > Wealth
Turn 9 -- 2014 AD
Turn 10 -- 2015 AD
Ok, no rules violations that time! I did change a couple things from before, like building Red Cross and changing population, but since I was fully intending to have the next player do that, I don't feel like I cheated or anything. If someone disagrees, I'll do the turns yet again ...
Here's the save:
View attachment 114604
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
Wait there just a minute!
<Dreylin pauses while drink-addled brain catches up ... it's Wednesday!?!?>
Does this mean that I'm going to be playing the last couple of turns ... with my reputation!?!?!?
<Ahem>
Sooooo, I agree that the first set was invalid, and fully support mk2!
Um, yeah ... stuff.
<Let's drink-addled brain depart....>
<Dreylin pauses while drink-addled brain catches up ... it's Wednesday!?!?>
Does this mean that I'm going to be playing the last couple of turns ... with my reputation!?!?!?
<Ahem>
Sooooo, I agree that the first set was invalid, and fully support mk2!
Um, yeah ... stuff.
<Let's drink-addled brain depart....>
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Dreylin, mjj has been MIA for a few days. Can you swap with him?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Dreylin? mjj? Anyone? 
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
Huh, Wha, Urg!?
Oh ... yeah ... Turtle.
Sorry, missed your post yesterday (prolly wouldn't have been able to play anyway). I'm going to be out most of today, but can play this evening if it's still on the cards.
Oh ... yeah ... Turtle.
Sorry, missed your post yesterday (prolly wouldn't have been able to play anyway). I'm going to be out most of today, but can play this evening if it's still on the cards.
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
Been out all day and too tired to go for it now ... will pick up tomorrow morning.
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
2016AD
Washington builds Thrusters: He's now up 2Thrusters and Docking Bay on us. I check our cities and realise that we're not building Thrusters even though we can!?
Configure production cities 2 though 4 to Thrusters (saving Calcutta for Stasis Chamber when Genetics completes)
Losing money now, but keep us at 80% to get Genetics in 2.
2017AD
Mansa Musa wants Open Borders -> Nope!
Izzy demands World Map -> don't see any harm, so I give it.
Hyderabad Laboratory->Courthouse
Great Artist born in AM ... can't get a Golden age, but notice that we've got loads of Great People stored up. We now have a spare Artist and a spare Scientist ... I'm going to use them to Speed Robotics next turn when Genetics completes.
2018AD
Genetics->Robotics
Artist accelerates research on Robotics ... but Scientist wants to help with Fiber Optics. Bah, put him back to sleep.
Calcutta starts on Stasis Chamber, and I knock Research back down to 70% so we're not haemoraging money.
2019AD
Hatty wants Open Borders; let me think about that for a mintue ... Nope!
Washington completes his last Thruster - he's 2 Spaceship techs up on us, but we're up a few techs that he'll need too.
2020AD
Zzzzzz
2021AD
Zzzzzz
2022AD
Zzzzzz
2023AD
Washington scowls at us while offering Incense for Pigs
2024AD
Zzzzzz
2025AD
Mansa Musa asks us to convert to Confucianism - not happening.
Liz, Open Borders, Nah.
And that's it. 5Turns to go; 2turns on Robotics and we're still ahead of Washington around 150pts of score.
Washington builds Thrusters: He's now up 2Thrusters and Docking Bay on us. I check our cities and realise that we're not building Thrusters even though we can!?
Configure production cities 2 though 4 to Thrusters (saving Calcutta for Stasis Chamber when Genetics completes)
Losing money now, but keep us at 80% to get Genetics in 2.
2017AD
Mansa Musa wants Open Borders -> Nope!
Izzy demands World Map -> don't see any harm, so I give it.
Hyderabad Laboratory->Courthouse
Great Artist born in AM ... can't get a Golden age, but notice that we've got loads of Great People stored up. We now have a spare Artist and a spare Scientist ... I'm going to use them to Speed Robotics next turn when Genetics completes.
2018AD
Genetics->Robotics
Artist accelerates research on Robotics ... but Scientist wants to help with Fiber Optics. Bah, put him back to sleep.
Calcutta starts on Stasis Chamber, and I knock Research back down to 70% so we're not haemoraging money.
2019AD
Hatty wants Open Borders; let me think about that for a mintue ... Nope!
Washington completes his last Thruster - he's 2 Spaceship techs up on us, but we're up a few techs that he'll need too.
2020AD
Zzzzzz
2021AD
Zzzzzz
2022AD
Zzzzzz
2023AD
Washington scowls at us while offering Incense for Pigs
2024AD
Zzzzzz
2025AD
Mansa Musa asks us to convert to Confucianism - not happening.
Liz, Open Borders, Nah.
And that's it. 5Turns to go; 2turns on Robotics and we're still ahead of Washington around 150pts of score.
chriseay
The Master Trader
Dreylin said:
I think we had stopped on the space ship parts because there was no way to finish the whole thing in time. Using that production to fund research could net us a few extra points if we get a tech we other wise wouldn't have. Anyway, starting them isn't horrible either.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Since we've had some player order breakdown, and because it's my game ... I'll take the last 5 turns ... hopefully there will be victory screens tonight.
If we finish the spaceship parts, it might get us more points; not sure if projects count towards the point total or not.
... hopefully there will be victory screens tonight.If we finish the spaceship parts, it might get us more points; not sure if projects count towards the point total or not.
chriseay
The Master Trader
ChrTh said:Since we've had some player order breakdown, and because it's my game ... I'll take the last 5 turns
If we finish the spaceship parts, it might get us more points; not sure if projects count towards the point total or not.
Hadn't thought about that, parts counting for points as well. I was thinking in terms of them being buildings.
I think as long as a launch or UN vote doesn't sneak up, we should win the time victory. Cross your fingers.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Turn 0 -- 2025 AD
5 turns to go ... will we win?!?!
I use the Great Artist to save us a turn on Robotics. I join the Great Prophet to Jaipur to help the SS Thrusters a little.
I use the Great Scientists for Fiber Optics. I'm hoping that after their contribution we'll be able to finish it in 5.
Calcutta won't finish the Stasis Chamber in 5, so I switch to wealth.
CTIV-1: 4092, GW: 3953
Turn 1 -- 2026 AD
Robotics comes in, Fiber Optics due in 4 ... here's hoping.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 3953
Turn 2 -- 2027 AD
Lahore: SS Thrusters > Research
Karachi: SS Thrusters > Research
I convert some more cities from Wealth to Research ... FO now due in 2.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 3956. Spaceship Parts do NOT increase score.
Turn 3 -- 2028 AD
Hattie wants to trade Wine for Hit Musicals. Since she only "Cats" to offer, I turn her down.
Hyderabad: Courthouse > Wealth. Celebrates We Love the Prime Minister Day.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 4003.
Turn 4 -- 2029 AD
Isabella wants to trade clams for pigs. I sadly decline.
Fiber Optics comes in. Start Ecology.
A Great Scientist is born in Delhi. I join him to Delhi as a Super Scientist.
I increase Culture to 80%
I turn off avoid growth in Ankh-Morpork. I save the game for everybody:
View attachment 115133
I find it funny that "Lovely Cruise" (J. Buffett) is now playing on my iPod. How appropriate!
CTIV-1: 4185, GW: 4000
I Press Enter ...
5 turns to go ... will we win?!?!
I use the Great Artist to save us a turn on Robotics. I join the Great Prophet to Jaipur to help the SS Thrusters a little.
I use the Great Scientists for Fiber Optics. I'm hoping that after their contribution we'll be able to finish it in 5.
Calcutta won't finish the Stasis Chamber in 5, so I switch to wealth.
CTIV-1: 4092, GW: 3953
Turn 1 -- 2026 AD
Robotics comes in, Fiber Optics due in 4 ... here's hoping.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 3953
Turn 2 -- 2027 AD
Lahore: SS Thrusters > Research
Karachi: SS Thrusters > Research
I convert some more cities from Wealth to Research ... FO now due in 2.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 3956. Spaceship Parts do NOT increase score.
Turn 3 -- 2028 AD
Hattie wants to trade Wine for Hit Musicals. Since she only "Cats" to offer, I turn her down.
Hyderabad: Courthouse > Wealth. Celebrates We Love the Prime Minister Day.
CTIV-1: 4145, GW: 4003.
Turn 4 -- 2029 AD
Isabella wants to trade clams for pigs. I sadly decline.
Fiber Optics comes in. Start Ecology.
A Great Scientist is born in Delhi. I join him to Delhi as a Super Scientist.
I increase Culture to 80%
I turn off avoid growth in Ankh-Morpork. I save the game for everybody:View attachment 115133
I find it funny that "Lovely Cruise" (J. Buffett) is now playing on my iPod. How appropriate!
CTIV-1: 4185, GW: 4000
I Press Enter ...
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
That was cool, thanks for letting me take part in it - it was fun.
