ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Blackluck said:I think that's a good plan.
Agreed.
CTIV-1: The Turtle Game
- Thread starter ChrTh
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Agreed.
(0) 1050AD
Situation mostly discussed above. Here is our new city, Karachi, with corn being worked and library in progress.
In addition, I change the production at Calcutta from a market to a missionary so that he can be sent straight to Karachi for a production bonus.
(1) 1060AD
- Hatty is back to pester us about open borders, but I’m being closed-minded.
- Literature comes in and we get cracking on Code of Laws (due in 4).
- Our worker at Bangalore is sent to build a road to Karachi; the one at Bombay is appointed to chopping duty for the library.
(2) 1070AD
- Borders expand at Bombay but the second silver resource is still out of reach. In fact, there isn’t really much change to the political landscape.
- A worker is given the task of building a road towards Green Spot.
(3) 1080AD
- Karachi is now connected.
- Kolhapur is founded at Green Spot, with a library as the initial build.
(4) 1090AD
- Borders at Lahore expand – again, there isn’t really enough difference to justify a screenshot.
- Missionary now ready at Calcutta. He is sent directly to Karachi and spreads Buddhism there on the same turn. Calcutta now resumes work on its Market.
- At Karachi, the road builder is directed to build a farm on the corn.
- Our galley near Kolhapur begins a long journey south, where it will be used to spy on enemy territory (we still don’t know anything about Hatty’s city west of Hastings).
(5) 1100AD
- Code of Laws finished; Drama started for access to theatres (ready in 2)
(6) 1110AD
- The market at A-M is completed. Now that we have Code of Laws I’m going to put both Epics into production. Delhi has more potential as a GP factory so the National Epic goes there (ready in 9); the other is allocated to A-M as cultural ammunition versus Egypt (ready in 11).
- Bangalore finishes a harbour and starts a courthouse
- Bombay finishes a monastery and also starts a courthouse.
(7) 1120AD
- Drama comes in; Feudalism started (ready in 7).
- Lahore’s aqueduct is finished on schedule, just in time for the city to grow.
- Kolhapur is now connected; the workers (3 of them) get to work on a quarry and one of the wineries.
(8) 1130AD
(9) 1140AD
- Calcutta builds a market and starts a courthouse.
- A worker begins a mine N of Karachi.
(10) 1150AD
Notes:
- Borders at Karachi are due to expand in the next couple of turns.
- At Madras, I’ve sacked our engineer and employed a merchant instead; in fact, I’ve employed a second merchant to halt growth temporarily (it’s icky there) and bolster our finances until they recover slightly from my city-building frenzy. We are currently running at -3gpt (mainly due to the fact that I switched off Wealth at Delhi to build the Epic) but I can live with that; I hope you can too.
- I didn’t bother with a missionary at Kolhapur as it was less of a priority than Karachi, but it’s certainly one option.
- As mentioned above the gallery is now in the south so that it can spy on our neighbours. It hasn’t yet reached its target.
Obligatory pretty pictures:
Note our cultural standing compared to Egypt on the Info Screen.
Situation mostly discussed above. Here is our new city, Karachi, with corn being worked and library in progress.
In addition, I change the production at Calcutta from a market to a missionary so that he can be sent straight to Karachi for a production bonus.
(1) 1060AD
- Hatty is back to pester us about open borders, but I’m being closed-minded.
- Literature comes in and we get cracking on Code of Laws (due in 4).
- Our worker at Bangalore is sent to build a road to Karachi; the one at Bombay is appointed to chopping duty for the library.
(2) 1070AD
- Borders expand at Bombay but the second silver resource is still out of reach. In fact, there isn’t really much change to the political landscape.
- A worker is given the task of building a road towards Green Spot.
(3) 1080AD
- Karachi is now connected.
- Kolhapur is founded at Green Spot, with a library as the initial build.
(4) 1090AD
- Borders at Lahore expand – again, there isn’t really enough difference to justify a screenshot.
- Missionary now ready at Calcutta. He is sent directly to Karachi and spreads Buddhism there on the same turn. Calcutta now resumes work on its Market.
- At Karachi, the road builder is directed to build a farm on the corn.
- Our galley near Kolhapur begins a long journey south, where it will be used to spy on enemy territory (we still don’t know anything about Hatty’s city west of Hastings).
(5) 1100AD
- Code of Laws finished; Drama started for access to theatres (ready in 2)
(6) 1110AD
- The market at A-M is completed. Now that we have Code of Laws I’m going to put both Epics into production. Delhi has more potential as a GP factory so the National Epic goes there (ready in 9); the other is allocated to A-M as cultural ammunition versus Egypt (ready in 11).
- Bangalore finishes a harbour and starts a courthouse
- Bombay finishes a monastery and also starts a courthouse.
(7) 1120AD
- Drama comes in; Feudalism started (ready in 7).
- Lahore’s aqueduct is finished on schedule, just in time for the city to grow.
- Kolhapur is now connected; the workers (3 of them) get to work on a quarry and one of the wineries.
(8) 1130AD
(9) 1140AD
- Calcutta builds a market and starts a courthouse.
- A worker begins a mine N of Karachi.
(10) 1150AD
Notes:
- Borders at Karachi are due to expand in the next couple of turns.
- At Madras, I’ve sacked our engineer and employed a merchant instead; in fact, I’ve employed a second merchant to halt growth temporarily (it’s icky there) and bolster our finances until they recover slightly from my city-building frenzy. We are currently running at -3gpt (mainly due to the fact that I switched off Wealth at Delhi to build the Epic) but I can live with that; I hope you can too.
- I didn’t bother with a missionary at Kolhapur as it was less of a priority than Karachi, but it’s certainly one option.
- As mentioned above the gallery is now in the south so that it can spy on our neighbours. It hasn’t yet reached its target.
Obligatory pretty pictures:
Note our cultural standing compared to Egypt on the Info Screen.
Nice job. - 3gpt is great considering the two new cities. Once the courthouses are completed, we'll get a nice boost. Looks like we'll be able to maintain the integrity of our cultural borders with Egypt, too.The one thing we'll need to worry about is our cities capping in population due to health issues born from no trading. Oddly we have absolutely no offshore resources. Perhaps we'll find some lonely islands with resources after optics ... (doubtful, but there's a shot.)
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
I got it, will play tonight (60 turns of SGs last night, only 10 tonight!)
Interesting that Heliopolis actually has some Indian culture in it
... while I doubt we can flip it, keeping the pressure on it will be good.
Glad to see Code of Laws in and the courthouses being built. FP should probably be in Bombay, unless someone has a better idea.
ROSTER:
ChrTh -- UP
BotlGnomz -- On deck? Off to check the OOP Thread ...
Ucel
mjj55409
scowler -- Just finished
blackluck
Percinho, if BotlGnomz isn't ready yet, do you want to take a turn?
Interesting that Heliopolis actually has some Indian culture in it
... while I doubt we can flip it, keeping the pressure on it will be good.Glad to see Code of Laws in and the courthouses being built. FP should probably be in Bombay, unless someone has a better idea.
ROSTER:
ChrTh -- UP
BotlGnomz -- On deck? Off to check the OOP Thread ...
Ucel
mjj55409
scowler -- Just finished
blackluck
Percinho, if BotlGnomz isn't ready yet, do you want to take a turn?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Turn 0 -- 1150 AD
Everything looks good. I like the fact that we're in the Optics tier but haven't come across any caravels from other Civs yet.
I do want the border cities to get started on Theatres asap, but I don't want to bankrupt us doing so, so I'll watch it.
Turn 1 -- 1160 AD
Karachi: Library > Theatre
Turn 2 -- 1170 AD
Lahore: Courthouse > Theatre
Turn 3 -- 1180 AD
Our galley can't get by Hastings ...
Turn 4 -- 1190 AD
...so when Feudalism comes in next turn, I start researching Optics. Due in 6.
Lahore: Theatre > Buddhist Missionary
I contemplate revolting ... but I decide to leave that for the group to discuss.
Our choices:
Vassalage: Cheaper, more experienced troops, but higher upkeep
Serfdom: Workers get faster
Caste System: Unlimited Merchants, Artists, and Scientist, but medium upkeep
We might want to switch to Vassalage at the same time we get to Theocracy.
Turn 5 -- 1200 AD
Delhi completes National Epic and starts Library.
Ptolemy has been born in Delhi! We can auto-research Philosophy or we can create a super scientist or we can save him for a Golden Age.
Ok, I'm pausing here for a few hours to get the team's input. Let me know what you think about revolting and what we should do with our great scientist.
Note: Angkor Wat has NOT been built. Doesn't mean no one else has Philosophy, though. Philosophy also allows Pacifism, but I doubt it's worth it because we'll be going to Theocracy shortly.
Everything looks good. I like the fact that we're in the Optics tier but haven't come across any caravels from other Civs yet.
I do want the border cities to get started on Theatres asap, but I don't want to bankrupt us doing so, so I'll watch it.
Turn 1 -- 1160 AD
Karachi: Library > Theatre
Turn 2 -- 1170 AD
Lahore: Courthouse > Theatre
Turn 3 -- 1180 AD
Our galley can't get by Hastings ...
Turn 4 -- 1190 AD
...so when Feudalism comes in next turn, I start researching Optics. Due in 6.
Lahore: Theatre > Buddhist Missionary
I contemplate revolting ... but I decide to leave that for the group to discuss.
Our choices:
Vassalage: Cheaper, more experienced troops, but higher upkeep
Serfdom: Workers get faster
Caste System: Unlimited Merchants, Artists, and Scientist, but medium upkeep
We might want to switch to Vassalage at the same time we get to Theocracy.
Turn 5 -- 1200 AD
Delhi completes National Epic and starts Library.
Ptolemy has been born in Delhi! We can auto-research Philosophy or we can create a super scientist or we can save him for a Golden Age.
Ok, I'm pausing here for a few hours to get the team's input. Let me know what you think about revolting and what we should do with our great scientist.
Note: Angkor Wat has NOT been built. Doesn't mean no one else has Philosophy, though. Philosophy also allows Pacifism, but I doubt it's worth it because we'll be going to Theocracy shortly.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Blackluck said:
Already built two pages ago, what was your second choice
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
I just loaded the game to check because I had no idea: you can build Academy in multiple cities! See, this is why this is a learner's game! 
If we put one in AM, it'll gain 12 beakers and 4 culture. I think this will be its best use.
If we put one in AM, it'll gain 12 beakers and 4 culture. I think this will be its best use.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Turn 5 continued
Academy in AM and no revolt makes the most sense to me, so I keep playing.
Ptolemy heads to AM, Heliopolis is about to feel a lot more pressure ...
Turn 6 -- 1210 AD
AM finishes Epic, starts Theatre
Lahore finishes Missionary (heads to Kolhapur), starts Granary
Great Library has been built in a far away land.
Liz wants to trade me Theology for Compass + Cash. I see if she'll do it for Compass alone, she says no, I say Buh-bye.
Borders of Madras expands, which can't be good news for York.
Academy is built in AM.
Turn 7 -- 1220 AD
Calcutta finishes Courthouse, starts Theatre, MM'd to start growing again. I've queued up Granary.
MM Lahore a little bit to get more commerce (and thus Optics one turn sooner).
Turn 8 -- 1230 AD
Delhi completes Theatre. Since we're running a slight surplus, I switch Delhi to Research, shaving off another turn for Optics (we're actually better off running Delhi on Research than running Delhi on Wealth and increasing Science to 80%)
Hanging Gardens have been built in a far away land.
I switch Madras from Wealth to Courthouse (they weren't giving us very much wealth as they have low production).
Turn 9 -- 1240 AD
We discover Optics and start Engineering.
AM finishes Theatre, starts Courthouse
Bombay finishes Courthouse, starts Market
Lahore finishes Granary, starts Longbowman
Buddhism has spread in Kolhapur
Turn 10 -- 1250 AD
Karachi finishes Theatre, starts Granary
All told, pretty eventless set of turns there.
Here's the save:
View attachment 108556
I'd say that the next few turns should be spent getting a caravel or two built and doing some exploring and maybe beefing up military a little bit. Make sure any cultural improvements that can be built is put in AM--I'd love to steal those crabs.
ROSTER:
ChrTh -- Just finished
BotlGnomz/Percinho -- 48 hours for one of y'all to say "Got It"
Ucel -- On deck
mjj55409
scowler
blackluck
Academy in AM and no revolt makes the most sense to me, so I keep playing.
Ptolemy heads to AM, Heliopolis is about to feel a lot more pressure ...
Turn 6 -- 1210 AD
AM finishes Epic, starts Theatre
Lahore finishes Missionary (heads to Kolhapur), starts Granary
Great Library has been built in a far away land.
Liz wants to trade me Theology for Compass + Cash. I see if she'll do it for Compass alone, she says no, I say Buh-bye.
Borders of Madras expands, which can't be good news for York.
Academy is built in AM.
Turn 7 -- 1220 AD
Calcutta finishes Courthouse, starts Theatre, MM'd to start growing again. I've queued up Granary.
MM Lahore a little bit to get more commerce (and thus Optics one turn sooner).
Turn 8 -- 1230 AD
Delhi completes Theatre. Since we're running a slight surplus, I switch Delhi to Research, shaving off another turn for Optics (we're actually better off running Delhi on Research than running Delhi on Wealth and increasing Science to 80%)
Hanging Gardens have been built in a far away land.
I switch Madras from Wealth to Courthouse (they weren't giving us very much wealth as they have low production).
Turn 9 -- 1240 AD
We discover Optics and start Engineering.
AM finishes Theatre, starts Courthouse
Bombay finishes Courthouse, starts Market
Lahore finishes Granary, starts Longbowman
Buddhism has spread in Kolhapur
Turn 10 -- 1250 AD
Karachi finishes Theatre, starts Granary
All told, pretty eventless set of turns there.
Here's the save:
View attachment 108556
I'd say that the next few turns should be spent getting a caravel or two built and doing some exploring and maybe beefing up military a little bit. Make sure any cultural improvements that can be built is put in AM--I'd love to steal those crabs.
ROSTER:
ChrTh -- Just finished
BotlGnomz/Percinho -- 48 hours for one of y'all to say "Got It"
Ucel -- On deck
mjj55409
scowler
blackluck
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Ucel, are you available to play?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Yikes, 
took a 
to this game!
ROSTER:
ChrTh
BotlGnomz
Ucel -- Skipped
mjj55409 -- UP
scowler -- On Deck
blackluck
took a to this game!ROSTER:
ChrTh
BotlGnomz
Ucel -- Skipped
mjj55409 -- UP
scowler -- On Deck
blackluck
Pre-turn
AD and Madras are unhealthy, so I use
to finish the courthouses. Switch Delhi from research to military.
1260AD
AM starts on forge. Madras starts on theatre. Worker at Kohlhapur starts mining; worker at Calcutta starts chopping.
1270AD
We have a good relationship with Hatty, but I turn down this offer. I hate paying for tech (and we are 2 techs up on Eygpt).
1280AD
1290AD
Calcutta finishes a granary and starts an aquaduct.
1300AD
AM finishes forge and starts on Globe Theater (which fits into our variant rules). AM needs as much culture as we can give it. Madras finishes its theater, and I use to produce a spear. Madras is producing a lot of food; we can be liberal with
1310AD
1320AD
Engineering is discovered. Start researching guilds (grocers!).
1330AD
Start building settler in Lahore.
1340AD
1350AD
AD and Madras are unhealthy, so I use
to finish the courthouses. Switch Delhi from research to military.1260AD
AM starts on forge. Madras starts on theatre. Worker at Kohlhapur starts mining; worker at Calcutta starts chopping.
1270AD
We have a good relationship with Hatty, but I turn down this offer. I hate paying for tech (and we are 2 techs up on Eygpt).
1280AD
1290AD
Calcutta finishes a granary and starts an aquaduct.
1300AD
AM finishes forge and starts on Globe Theater (which fits into our variant rules). AM needs as much culture as we can give it. Madras finishes its theater, and I use
to produce a spear. Madras is producing a lot of food; we can be liberal with 1310AD
1320AD
Engineering is discovered. Start researching guilds (grocers!).
1330AD
Start building settler in Lahore.
1340AD
1350AD
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Better watch all that , it'll keep you up all night!
ROSTER:
ChrTh
BotlGnomz
Ucel
mjj55409 -- Just Finished
scowler -- UP (Yep, it's the 29th, so he should be available)
blackluck -- On Deck
, it'll keep you up all night!ROSTER:
ChrTh
BotlGnomz
Ucel
mjj55409 -- Just Finished
scowler -- UP (Yep, it's the 29th, so he should be available)
blackluck -- On Deck
