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I missed the debate, but that was how the MSNBC bubbleheads were calling it in the part of the post-debate coverage that I caught. However, their viewer polls gave it to Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton. I generally don't trust the bubbleheads to be able to properly call the winners or losers, so who knows.
Hygro
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Me rankings:
Hillary Clinton definitely did the best to me, and I don't like her. Edwards came in second, not too far off. I give Biden 3rd but he seemed too statesmen-like and not presidential (he reminded me of Kerry, who was excellent in the 2004 debates). Obama and Richards tied for 4th/5th, with Richards seeming kind of dumb but capable and Obama seeming wise but not knowledgeable. Obama just isn't a great debater (watch him vs Alan Keyes on youtube), even though he's the best speaker among them.
I can't take Kucinich and Gravel seriously, though I degree agree with some elements of the moral philosophy of nonviolence. As leaders of America they don't quite cut it. And Dodd was simply the biggest loser.
Take Gephart and make him 5 times more boring.
Finally, we in the Obama camp are the most internetially organized--of course we mobilize and give our guy the winning vote in online polls.
Hillary Clinton definitely did the best to me, and I don't like her. Edwards came in second, not too far off. I give Biden 3rd but he seemed too statesmen-like and not presidential (he reminded me of Kerry, who was excellent in the 2004 debates). Obama and Richards tied for 4th/5th, with Richards seeming kind of dumb but capable and Obama seeming wise but not knowledgeable. Obama just isn't a great debater (watch him vs Alan Keyes on youtube), even though he's the best speaker among them.
I can't take Kucinich and Gravel seriously, though I degree agree with some elements of the moral philosophy of nonviolence. As leaders of America they don't quite cut it. And Dodd was simply the biggest loser.
Take Gephart and make him 5 times more boring.Finally, we in the Obama camp are the most internetially organized--of course we mobilize and give our guy the winning vote in online polls.
I didn't watch it, but people who have the same views in general are horrendously boring to watch. Kind of like 3 old men agreeing it's raining when it's pouring outside. I'm waiting until the competitors for both parties have to start separating themselves from each other. Then, the fireworks will fly.
Hygro
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it's a debate, not a convention
It got pretty insane.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gMlHv2lDqA
Mike Gravel Highlight Reel. Hes looney, but hes my kind of looney.
EDIT: Gravel has brass balls. Interview with Chris Matthews.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_fFX4V23FVo
Double Edit: My mother says Gravel was a lounge singer before he was elected. Just the man we need.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gMlHv2lDqA
Mike Gravel Highlight Reel. Hes looney, but hes my kind of looney.
EDIT: Gravel has brass balls. Interview with Chris Matthews.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_fFX4V23FVo
Double Edit: My mother says Gravel was a lounge singer before he was elected. Just the man we need.
