Democrat Donor on the lamb

Dude, I'm so with you on this. But not just here. I wish I didn't have to hear ANYTHING from any presidential candidates until, say, June '08 at the earliest.
Wouldn't that be nice.

But thats the whole point of comming here. It's not the Harvard debating society.
So calm, reasonable debate is out of the question, and we're all reduced to the verbal (Or electronic) version of clubbing each other over the head with sticks until the the "bad" people shut up?
 
A US Attorney going after a legacy, who was investigating Libby on a crime that he had already ascertained, wasn't even committed.
Still not a Democrat going after Libby, which was your original screed that I was replying to.
So... who goes to MSNBC.com?
It's the 3rd largest cable news station and affilated with one of the big 3 networks. Plus, I assume you read the rest of my post which indicated that NBC, CNN, Fox, and the Wall Street Journal have covered the story.
And again, EVERY news report about this has NOT been critical towards Hillary. They blindly follow the "I had no idea this was happening" ruitine that the Clintons have always pulled. Then they cantonize her for giving that money to charity, without ever looking into what has actually taken place.
Some have been critical, some have not. At least they aren't completely ignoring it like they ignored the Romney stories.
 
So... who goes to MSNBC.com?
And who goes to NYTimes for that matter - I knew I had seen it already: it was on CNN's frontpage (linked to NYT article) a week ago but then some republican senator had to announce that he is not gay :rolleyes:
It is being reported but the attention span of newsmedia is short these days, unless of course it is something remotely connected to sex ;)
Oh and while the guy did "only" give 24000$ to Clinton he seems to have been a major fundraiser for her so she should keep a better eye on whom she associates with, on the other hand: this guy has been active in public as a Democratic fundraiser in Washington since 2003 and California has just now noticed they have a 15 year old warrant for him - so they aren't quick either :p
 
Dude, I'm so with you on this. But not just here. I wish I didn't have to hear ANYTHING from any presidential candidates until, say, June '08 at the earliest.

IN theory I agree with you. I'd love not to think about the elections until mid-08. Unfortunately, the world chose to go in a different direction and the candidates are already in full swing. I'm too into politics to ignore it if it is going on around me.

Da da da dum!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djm8gz7Kdho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGwwBfraaiU
:D
 
Still not a Democrat going after Libby, which was your original screed that I was replying to. - JollyRoger

But it was Democrats going after someone. Specifically Rove. I can dig up all the sordid original articles on it. Liberal forums are jammed packed with the calls for Roves head when this came out. Do you seriously think that this entire charade was NOT rooted within Democrat circles as an avenue to presumably smear Rove?

Enlight about what Novak has come out and said about the entire fiasco, doesn't it become a little more clear? Considering that Novak TOLD Wilson that he was going to use his wifes name, and Wilson had no objections before the fact?

If Democrats, and the Wilsons, had not blown it into something it wasn't, do you think Fitzgerald would have ever been in the picture?

It's the 3rd largest cable news station and affilated with one of the big 3 networks. Plus, I assume you read the rest of my post which indicated that NBC, CNN, Fox, and the Wall Street Journal have covered the story. - JollyRoger

Which gives them ratings of what? And that's not even the issue. Who reads articles at MSNBC.com? Particularly if it's not flashy dashy on the "front page." I hardly call a third bit article at MSNBC an example of responsible media coverage. How about Time and Newsweek? What about the big networks? How did the NYT and LAT handle it?

Is MSNBC even pulling down 1.0 ratings?
 
But it was Democrats going after someone. Specifically Rove. I can dig up all the sordid original articles on it. Liberal forums are jammed packed with the calls for Roves head when this came out. Do you seriously think that this entire charade was NOT rooted within Democrat circles as an avenue to presumably smear Rove?

Enlight about what Novak has come out and said about the entire fiasco, doesn't it become a little more clear? Considering that Novak TOLD Wilson that he was going to use his wifes name, and Wilson had no objections before the fact?

If Democrats, and the Wilsons, had not blown it into something it wasn't, do you think Fitzgerald would have ever been in the picture?
Bush appointed prosecutor questioning both Libby and Rove, Bush appointed judge presiding over Libby trial. Libby wasn't subject to Congressional hearings and neither was Rove on this matter. Libby should have told the truth to the Grand Jury so he wouldn't have had so much trouble with the Bush appointees.
Which gives them ratings of what? And that's not even the issue. Who reads articles at MSNBC.com? Particularly if it's not flashy dashy on the "front page." I hardly call a third bit article at MSNBC an example of responsible media coverage. How about Time and Newsweek? What about the big networks? How did the NYT and LAT handle it?

Is MSNBC even pulling down 1.0 ratings?
MSNBC, Fox, and CNN all covered it. The Wall Street Journal covered it. NBC covered it. It's probably mentioned in the LA Times and the New York Times. Not sure about the weeklies. Still got far more coverage than Romney's co-chairs.
 
Libby should have told the truth to the Grand Jury so he wouldn't have had so much trouble with the Bush appointees. - JollyRoger

Libby should have never even testified in front of a Grand Jury. There was no crime to investigate and Fitzerald had already established that fact. Correct? Again, Armitage did admit that he was the leaker right? He told the FBI that, who immediately told that to Fitzgerald, who knew then and there that no crime had been committed...right? So why was there a grand jury in the first place?

CNN presently has Craig at the top of their latest news. They have stories on the forefront about how a 15 year old doesn't think Ivy League School isn't a big deal, and how they've found a clue to vanishing honeybees. Nothing about Hsu to be found. There is an expose on why Mary Kate won't smile. In the politics section, again, Craig is the top story, followed by Oparah supporting Obama. So even if Hillary is a topic of discussion, you have to dig for it.

PMSNBC is pretty much the same. Craig is at the top. There's a big ad about how we should get to know Barack Obama. Apparently we're supposed to care about Steve Fousset, and Andy Roddicks A game just wasn't enough.

In the politics section? Nope. No sign. Nothing. Gotta dig for it.

At the New York Times, the big story is about Iraq of course and how it's a horrible failure. After loading the site, right there in the middle is a story for Craig playing footsy.

In the politics section? Nope, nothing there on Hillary and Hsu.

Give them a breath to get to Romney. It'll come out eventually sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.
 
At the New York Times, the big story is about Iraq of course and how it's a horrible failure. After loading the site, right there in the middle is a story for Craig playing footsy.
As I posted above they reported the story A WEEK AGO - just follow the link :p It is no wonder it is no longer on their frontpage, sex scandals sell better then 15 year old money scams ;)
The whole story broke last week and a lot of papers did report it then, just the fact that this guy did not show up at court again does not make it to the frontpages again. If the Republican side of the Senate didn't have a story that is much juicier it would probably still be a problem for Hillary but Craig did (does ;) ) his best to make sure it isn't anymore.
 
Merkinball - the donor story was last week. It made a little bit of buzz yesterday when the guy didn't show up for court (Yahoo front page, mentioned on the cable news stations). Larry Craig would be out of the news if he didn't hint at not resigning.
 
Damn I'm glad I live in Canada!

I'm not even going to bother paying attention to this, there's so much partisan bias, smearing and mud-slinging from each side that most information is either irrelevant or blown massively out of proportion.
 
For those scoring at home, just an update to the Hsu/Larry Craig coverage. Today's Wall Street Journal - the page 1 world-wide news column - Hsu gets the 3rd blurb. Larry Craig, the 6th. On page A3, the earliest place a non-economic hard news story generally appears, there's the Hsu story. Four reporters assigned to the byline and one credited as a contributer. No story on Craig - just the blurb. Romney's co-chairs still not mentioned.
 
Apparently they found him - he seems to have been hospitalized while traveling by train towards california, they now arrested him in his hospital bed (cnn.com) - so he is fugitive no more, and it is being reported :p
Spoiler :

since he has been enroute to very close of where the hearing was to take place and he fell sick I am not even sure that he intentionally missed that hearing - he might have been too sick to call the court in advance
 
When they catch the guy, he can share a cell with Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney. Throw in Ted Stevens and William Jefferson for good measure.
I'd lock some more in that cell, but that'd be about right. Go after the guy!
 
What about Jack Murtha and Barbara Boxer?
I'm not as up on Boxer's shenanigans but Murtha should have had hell for ABSCAM.

Hsu's lawyer represented the American Taliban guy as well.

Isn't funny that the Clinton's never seem to know anything about their largest campaign donors? I bet if the Democrats were as vested in investigating their cronies as they are in investigating Scooter Libby when there was no crime, that they'd be in prison with the Duke as well.
Representing someone isn't a crime. If that were the case, Scooter Libby would have been hauled off years ago for representing Marc Rich.
 
Can everyone just stop it with the partisan hackery, already? Geez....

It's going to be a long year.
Not until I can make foam fingers proclaiming "We're #1!"
 
Partisan hackery is as American as revolutions and apple pie. It's been a vibrant part of the political discourse in this country since the Continental Congress.
 
Partisan hackery is as American as revolutions and apple pie. It's been a vibrant part of the political discourse in this country since the Continental Congress.

I disagree, you partisan hackety-hack you! :p
 
This is one of my reasons for not wanting to live in the US.. Not only the whole scandal thing which is another reason but the entire mudslinging and politics and corrupted world view and screwed up foreign and domestic policy. But I don't speak Canadian....hah
 
Back
Top Bottom