[Development] Alternative Map during 1.17

The only thing I can come up with is "veld" (or "veldt") for the terrain type. But that is also regional.

 

Perhaps we could use tropical woodland for the feature?

Also, if we want to use distinct names for terrain and features, we have to change one of the two marshes. The terrain could be named as wetland, while marsh is maintained for the feature.

 

Purely Aestheitc, I thought the river catchment graphic looks quite nice when overlaid on the saltpan terrain. Which really poor terrain is which is a moot point gameplay mechanically it's a hard sell to work a trash tile instead of have a specialist.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Okavango_River_Basin_map.png

this also suggests that the saltpans on the map may only partly represent the pans in the area

 

What about Prairie? Though it's regional too, since it refers to grasslands in North America.

 

I’m against prairie for translation reasons, as it is the current French word for grasslands.

I was thinking of something like Savanna + Savanna woodland, or Savanna grassland + Savanna.

Can the marsh terrain and feature be separate from one another? If yes, it might be a good idea to give them distinct names too. Fortunately there is no shortage of synonyms here. Wetland for the terrain sounds good.

 

My new approach works!

(And PR made)

Spoiler :

 

Honestly, I'd just go with woodland.

Also, everyone. Africa looks fantastic.

 

This wide Aegean Sea is screaming for a full land tile island somewhere... If not an isolated island in the middle, how about Rhodes 1 SW of the Anatolia marble and therefore connected to land? That way it could easily be settled, we’d be able to see the colossus in the correct location for the first time.

Also, the Okavango delta looks really nice, but I think I preferred the river mouth. For the river flow issue you mentioned, but also because it’s more distinctive. That river source pattern can be seen at a couple of places in the same screenshot, and we shouldn’t think of them as deltas.

 

I'm so excited for this map.. it looks so beautiful!!

 

I thought of Walrus Ivory being a possible candidate for a regional variant of Ivory. But then I remembered that Elephants are required for War Elephants and it makes no sense that Walruses enable War Elephants.

 

War Walruses FTW

 

The map development is great and I can't think of much I can contribute.

I have read it somewhere in this thread and can't claim it was my idea, but I second it: Dye could be a sea-also resource, like oil. That could be applied to dyes in the mediterranean. I think that at least the dyes in Algier, Tyrus and Egypt would be snail-dye, i.e. sea-based.
Furthermore, most natural dye resources should eventually die out in favor for industrial dye produced in [chemical industry] buildings. Possibly, the mediterranean snail resources would become extinct at a random date between 1200 and 1500, making dye a resource highly sought after (and also lower the importance of Northern Africa, just like when Ivory is removed there). The first land-based dye resources (Indigo) would be randomly removed as more and more civs discover [Chemistry] and can build some [chemical industry] building that is able to provide dye on demand, and only few natural dye resources remain for the end game.


How can I access the maps of 600 AD or 1700 AD in the world builder? In the map-development version, I can start a game as Egypt in 3000BC, then enter WB, but when I went to "Private Maps" to load the 1700 scenario, the game just crashes. When I start a 1700 scenario as Prussia, it loads the old 1.16 map.
So I can't see any of the later-game resource spawns (Banana in Africa and South America, Cows and Horses in the Americas, and so on).

For the late-game resource distribution, my workaround would be to look up every instance in the Resource.py file, and then manually place it on the map to see what is intended. Is the Resource.py up to date?

 

Technically it was in the Map Suggestions thread.

 

They are not ready yet, because the final design of the map is not yet fully finished. It is a lot easier to apply changes to just one map and copy that map in the end than to apply the same change 3 times. And doing the same thing 3 times can easily cause inconsistencies between maps. Copying from the 3000 BC map in the end will make sure the maps are the same.

 

Now Crete will be a no-man's land again since the wine is reachable from Sparta.