Diplo for Team BABE

[Daghdha]

I think the latter is what we're talking about here, then a RoP and some other (smaller) city which they could rax and have as home away from home.

 

[markh]

Is it possible to get to know from our babe friends what is going on ? Is gifting them LEOs still our plan ?

 

[killercane]

I second Mark. From the looks of it, the BABEs are sucking; why bring *one* defense unit to invade?

 

[RickFGS]

What are the BABE´s researching?

 

[jb1964]

From Wotan...

"Gunpowder in 4 turns"

That message was earlier today so it's attributable to Turn 128 so we should expect Gunpowder on turn 132 barring any new developments.

 

[jb1964]

OK, the back and forth w/ Wotan....

Here's the abstract....
Wotan: Damn! We got our butts kicked and lost about all our units on Council! Some of the battles look fishy and I smell a rat!
jb: Ya, that looks goofy but I can almost understand why you would attack w/ a 1 hp unit against a MW w/ a defense rating of 1.
Wotan: HUH!?!
jb: Dude, don't tell me about it... talk to the powers-that-be and provide facts.
The End

 

[RickFGS]

From Wotan...

"Gunpowder in 4 turns"

That message was earlier today so it's attributable to Turn 128 so we should expect Gunpowder on turn 132 barring any new developments.

Thats really good news, we can stay idle then till we get Education and go straight to Astro.

 

[killercane]

Exchange w/ Wotan:

Originally Posted by killercane
How about an update from the war front? Also, I figure when we get education, we dont give it to you, but wait until we have ascertained that teh other two have traded over Chemistry/Astro and give you TGL. That way we get it all for free. Only problem being if they dont trade for a turn or two, and dont look like they will, we would have to get started on researching again.

We have cleared out their "resource island". We have lost 20 units they are down 13. They unfortunatley managed to get enough reinforcements in to secure the town we threatened on the mainland last turn at least the report suggest that. No more 1HP attacks.

We will now change and go for hit and run tactics. With so few units they are bound to leave huge gaps everywhere. We are now in GA and producing enough Knights for a big finale with a new landing around 25 turns from now. Sure will be interesting to see what they can put up at to counter our second big landing.

 

[RickFGS]

Wotan should be counting on Cavalry avaiable for Council to counter their Knights in 25 turns! Thats just bad planning from BABES. They are gonna get themselves killed, they should block off the resource island and concentrate on build up infrastructure since they are in golden age + chop some forests would be enough for a few libraries/marketplaces....

The hit and run tactics in the north sounds nice

 

[killercane]

Finally some useful maps from BABE.

 

[RickFGS]

Those 2 FREE islands sure look tasty, i wonder how would they look like in a green suit

 

[jb1964]

Per our treaty w/ the Babes we're not supposed to trade w/ Saber, or anyone else for that matter, w/o running it past them for their blessings.

That's why I say it's nice to get them (Babes) on our side but this relationship is a bit smothering now.

If we deal w/ Saber we need approval or some cover.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

That was a really stupid invasion plan. No defense to speak of. You have to figure you are going to lose a bunch of units.

 

[RickFGS]

Well they where planning to hit SABER, so they lost all the surprise element against Council

 

[jb1964]

OK, lets sell the techs to Saber...

From the Babes...

I think we're in agreement. If we can stop the other two from spending Saber's goldI don't see a problem with it. Let us know what you need.

Originally Posted by jb1964
Good news. Sorry, I've been out of the loop as of late. Let's see if I can start making a difference.

Hey, Saber's buying techs from council left and right. I think it's time for us to do the selling and pull in the gold. At the very least we keep Saber neutral.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Whomp
JB,

Just to give you an update. We've razed or Council has abandoned 5 cities. Three on a island and two in their SW. We plan to continue to harrass their coast but have put our units back on boats and plan a vareity of different landings.

I think our plan should be interesting as it develops.
Let us know if you need any further help on Free.

W

 

[killercane]

Originally Posted by killercane
Saber has approached us about buying tech from us rather than Council. Council is offering 33% of monopoly tech value for Education. We can probably sell for 25% of value and split the gold with you. What is your take on this? They also say they can provide Banking in exchange for something.

No discussion on this topic in our forum, I'm afraid. Activities are extremely low. I am pretty sure it is just a question of how many more turns we will be around. Gifting all to you is becoming a rather obvious solution now.

Gunpowder next turn. FREE has, with almost certainty, Astronomy now. Two Galleys in sea tiles.
Wotan

 

[jb1964]

Originally Posted by killercane
Saber has approached us about buying tech from us rather than Council. Council is offering 33% of monopoly tech value for Education. We can probably sell for 25% of value and split the gold with you. What is your take on this? They also say they can provide Banking in exchange for something.

No discussion on this topic in our forum, I'm afraid. Activities are extremely low. I am pretty sure it is just a question of how many more turns we will be around. Gifting all to you is becoming a rather obvious solution now.

Gunpowder next turn. FREE has, with almost certainty, Astronomy now. Two Galleys in sea tiles.
Wotan

Hmmmm, I missed this one earlier.

Will comment more later.

 

[jb1964]

OK, this makes no sense.

The Babes are busy kicking up dirt in Council-land and they're talking about retiring?!?

I would rather they not gift us their cities and then walk away. The others will scream "rat!" and make us target numero uno. It's just waaaay outside the spirit of the game.

 

[RFHolloway]

Sounds like at least someone on Babe is having fun going on the rampage. Whether it is a coherent strategy, some one just using up all the MW's they have and when they get bored they will quit, or whether they have been playing a VERY cleaver diplo game and have another alliance. In any case I wouldn't accept a mass gift of cities from Babe (although if they offered them all I would take DSOTM back as a special case)

 

[jb1964]

Conversation w/ Whomper....

Originally Posted by jb1964
The total came out to 1400g,

As we get payments we'll send you the 50% cut.

I would like to put a peace treaty in place w/ Saber for the next 40 turns or so to concentrate on FREE. Any objections?

jb

JB,

I can't remember but do we have a defense pact? If we do can you make Saber aware that they shouldn't monkey around with our plans and attack us.

If we don't we should have one. Do you think we should sign a peace deal with them?

W

We Don't have a defense pact. How would that look? We agree to help each other out if landed upon? I would still like to maintain as much of the good cop/bad cop appearance that we can to take advantage at a letter date.

I was just toying w/ the idea of signing up Saber to a peace deal for 40 or so turns.

Getting Saber to leave you alone shouldn't be a problem because we're openly tech partners and if they want us to continue to undercut Council/Free then they need to not screw us over.

BTW, we got 1400g coming our way for the tech sale so you'll be getting your cut as we go.

Anyway, let's keep this thread going and come up w/ something.

jb