DirectX 9.0c December 2005 Version Released

Underseer said:
While I agree that in general it's a good idea to update rather than not, your post is so dripping with arrogance I simply don't see the point in reading any further.

Well, then im sure its worth your time to type up a whole post to whine and complain about it...

But, obviously, providing a short informative post about the availability of a DirectX update is clearly "arrogant". Good call.

If you want people to read your entire post, it helps to not come across like an indignant 14 year old.

Well, because all the adult and "dignant" folk make sure they post to whine and complain not about the information conveyed by another person, but rather about the "style" of the information conveyance, such that it "makes them feel inferior".

You may find more people taking you seriously that way.

As opposed to being taken seriously for whining about the "arrogance of informing".

Uh huh.

PS -- does anyone know what the deal is with the version number? That's seriously weird.

Which "version number" would that be? The fact that Microsoft isnt actually updating the DirectX package version number to indicate the presence of new/revised/changed code, or the external version numbers of the D3DX9D.DLL file?

I've already explained the latter (though you might have to suffer through "informed arrogance") in another post, the former is just a Bad Decision on the part of Microsoft, thus making it difficult for consumers to determine whether they have the most recent version of DirectX.

The whole "Month X Update" naming convention for 9.0c is just..Bad.

Thankfully they finally listened to reason (after a year) and at least provided, directly to consumers for download, a cumulative package for all of the 2005 previously developer-only run-time releases.

Next.
 
Well shoot CiV!

I was kinda hoping you would know how to run CIV IV on Directx9b.

Oh well.
 
Novotny said:
its civindeed. The last thread of yours that I noticed got locked, I imagine this one will too. Will you please go back on the medication?

Good contribution.

Your post is facilitating the potentiality for increased awareness about this DirectX update by keeping the thread "on top".

Again, thank you.

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Neon Deon said:
Yay! CIv is back!

Civ,

There is a big difference between updating just because it is new and updating because it is required to run a program you want to use.

The difference being, one you knew at the time was an update, and the other you didnt?

Oh, i know, you are going to now claim that "you knew" you were installing the DirectX 9.0c June 2005 Update at the time you installed Civ 4 (even though it makes no such information about revisions available during the install process), and that it was newer than your prior version of 9.0c, right?

Oh yeah, whether or not you knew whether you were actually updating DX or not, makes a huge difference in terms of the actual usability, viability, compatibility, and stability of the actual DX code.

And heck, everyone knows games never ship with outdated old versions of DirectX (at the time the game ships), and never try to force install them.

Just like they never ship with other outdated insecure third party code libraries like zlib and python.

Lets see, the game ships with the June 2005 version of DirectX 9.0c, even though, both the August 2005 and October 2005 versions of DirectX 9.0c runtime were already available via SDK updates.

Those ever-so-competent Firaxis folks.

Uh huh.

Next.
 
CivIndeed said:
The difference being, one you knew at the time was an update, and the other you didnt?

Oh, i know, you are going to now claim that "you knew" you were installing the DirectX 9.0c June 2005 Update at the time you installed Civ 4 (even though it makes no such information about revisions available during the install process), and that it was newer than your prior version of 9.0c, right?

Oh yeah, whether or not you knew whether you were actually updating DX or not, makes a huge difference in terms of the actual usability, viability, compatibility, and stability of the actual DX code.

And heck, everyone knows games never ship with outdated old versions of DirectX (at the time the game ships), and never try to force install them.

Just like they never ship with other outdated insecure third party code libraries like zlib and python.

Lets see, the game ships with the June 2005 version of DirectX 9.0c, even though, both the August 2005 and October 2005 versions of DirectX 9.0c runtime were already available via SDK updates.

Those ever-so-competent Firaxis folks.

Uh huh.

Next.

Woo hoo! you type a lot.

Changes nothing.

You can speculate what I am thinking all you want it still does not change the fact that Directx9c as provided for on the CIV IV CD is required to run the program.

CIV IV works great on my computer with directx9c as provided by the CIV IV CD.

I think it is great Microsoft released another version.

Am I going to use it while my exsisting setup is fully functioning?

NO.

Reason: (full circle)

"If it aint broke, Don't fix it":D
 
Thing is civindeed you don't come here to help, you come here to sneer. Its quite remarkable the way you operate, proudly producing your 'show-stoppers' then taking any comments posted, dissecting them, proving them worthless alongside a quoted commentary and some high-school sarcasm... you spend an inordinate amount of time producing these point-laden posts. They're very detailed. What's going on inside that head?

I know better than to argue with you, as that indeed is the reason you're here, trying to provoke people. It's a pity people think you really are trying to help, but I for one simply find your neuroticism hugely amusing. How much bile can you produce? Do carry on :)
 
CivIndeed said:
Kids these days.

You said it. I don't want to drop to your level but in replying to your bile ridden post I already have.

You start threads just to provoke replies like this. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time? You sure have alot of it to waste on replying in the way you have. Try playing Civ4 to pass the time instead, the diplomacy screen has more wit than you. Perhaps you don't actually own a copy of the game.

If you have nothing worth contributing then please don't bother. People will just start ignoring you if we have have to put up with replies and threads like yours. Go and be a nuisance somewhere else please. 50-odd insulting and arrogant posts are nothing to be proud about....

I was hoping for more constructive posts like has this update improved the game performance for anyone? It hasn't for me so thanks CivIndeed for dragging this thread into the gutter.

Unsubsribing...
 
I am pretty confused and miffed. I did not get DirectX 9.0C on my game CD. It was just DirectX 9.0. I installed 9.0C last night from a computer games magazine free CD that had the CIV demo on it.

Of course it did not resolve any CTD's for me. I've tried many of the tricks in the forums without each showing improvements but nothing that really works.

Anyone have any idea why I didn't get 9.0C on my game discs? I suspect others had the same issue because I also could not install the patch and there were posts from others who had the same error code, which someone identified as not having 9.0C.

If I did not get 9.0C, then is it not possible that there are other facets of the program that are also missing?


PS Because of my CTD's I dumped and reinstalled the game 3 times and reinstalled the DirectX component every time. I definately got DirectX 9.0.
 
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