DLL - Various Mod Components

kaspergm · Jul 26, 2014

seamus2010 said:
It doesn't work for me . I downloaded and installed both the City Work Distance mod and the Various DLL mod components (1.0.3.144). I have a Hanging Garden in my capital, yet I still can only work up to 3 tiles... 4th tile and beyond is darkened compared to workable tiles just like in vanilla. I have BNW and G&K.

Did you turn "on" the effects in the XML file in the City Work Distance mod?

seamus2010 · Jul 26, 2014

kaspergm said:
Did you turn "on" the effects in the XML file in the City Work Distance mod?

Yes, they're all on, all four of them. Does this mod affect saved games?

bladex · Jul 27, 2014

i think there is a bug in v53 that causes all sea trade routes to vanish sometime in the industrial era (haven't narrowed it yet) it's happened twice to me now with 2 mods: Resources Gone Wild II - World Trade (v 2) and Resource_Expansion_Packs (v 9)

what happens is you can set sea trades normally than all of a sudden all sea trades will cease to exist and any sea trades you have you have to delete once their finished trade! i thought it was limited to the resources gone wild mod but it's happened to me in 2 different mods now!

log attached.

whoward69 · Jul 27, 2014

@bladex - almost certainly related to the weird negative distances for sea trade routes. Fix has been found, just delayed getting an update out from the Unified Yield work

bladex · Jul 27, 2014

ok cool

StarlitSkies · Jul 27, 2014

"DLL - Various Mod Components" doesn't make any changes to Civ5 gameplay by itself, correct? If I understand right, it just provides capabilities for other mods to use?

Thus installing "DLL - Various Mod Components" and your "AI - Smart" from Pick'N'Mix would ONLY change the AI behavior, and not other aspects of the game, right?

whoward69 · Jul 27, 2014

Correct, on both counts. With the usual caveat about buggy code unintentionally changing things.

If you dig into "AI - Smart" you'll find it's split into sub-sections which you can individually switch off if you don't want them

kaspergm · Jul 28, 2014

whoward69 said:
@bladex - almost certainly related to the weird negative distances for sea trade routes. Fix has been found, just delayed getting an update out from the Unified Yield work

Oh I thought I was going crazy, noticed on several occasions how my trade routes suddenly would only go to close cities while earlier in game I could go (admittedly unusually far?) across the map. Happens for me during Renaissance era, however.

bladex · Jul 28, 2014

i don't know when it exactly happens i do know a technology triggers it though once you research it they vanish. i think it might be economics also if you don't have any trade ships after it triggers the routes won't vanish. once it triggers you can use trade ships but again i don't know exactly what triggers it best to wait for v54

ispanets · Jul 30, 2014

Hi Whoward!

This is Khose Galkin, from LOTR scenario. I use your 34 nations DLL that works perfectly, but I have noted an incompatibility with Gedemon's Advanced Setup (for hotseat in mods and scenarios).

In my setup screen, I have all the nations shown in dropdown boxes, and for those in hotseat, I set correctly the SlotStatus and SlotClaim in Setup Screen lines:

PreGame.SetSlotStatus( i, SlotStatus.SS_TAKEN )
PreGame.SetSlotClaim( i, SlotClaim.SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED )

Here you can see the log of this correct configuration:

Spoiler :

I have realised that the game loses at some time the SLOTSTATUS_TAKEN status for the nations AFTER standard 22, but conserves the SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED, so in the game I have to set again...

if(PreGame.GetSlotClaim(iPlayerLoop) == SlotClaim.SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED ) then
PreGame.SetSlotStatus( iPlayerLoop, SlotStatus.SS_TAKEN )
end

As a result, the game starts and the log shows...

Spoiler :

So, for nations before 22, the game get the SLOTSTATUS_TAKEN and SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED. For those after 22, only SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED. As I said, I've put then again the SLOTSTATUS_TAKEN, but the game still IGNORES the nations with SLOTSTATUS_TAKEN and SLOTCLAIM_RESERVED after 22, although they are correctly set (twice, in Gedemon's advanced setup screen and when the game starts).

Any idea of what could cause this?

Thanks and sorry if I disturbed you with my long message.

Khose

whoward69 · Jul 30, 2014

ispanets said:
Any idea of what could cause this?

The Pregame code (which we do NOT have the source code for) was compiled with MAX_MAJOR_CIVS set to 22, subsequently the pre-game code stores the data for the minor civs from slot 22 onwards, obliterating anything you may be trying to do in Lua. There is no direct solution to this - see comment in brackets above.

ispanets · Jul 30, 2014

Thanks, whoward69, as always, for your quick response.

kaspergm · Jul 30, 2014

whoward, I don't know if this is the right place to ask you, but if not sorry for the inconvenience. There are two things, I would like to know if you have ever considered looking into in your DLL mod:

1) Fixing the issue where the COVER promotions doesn't work for siege/range units. I think the explanation is that these units use their ranged combat strength when engaging in ranged combat (also as defender) whereas cover promotion applies to melee combat strength, or something like that.

2) Making it so than when picking the Religious Tolerance belief, instead of the current effect, one gets to add another Pantheon belief to your religion / add a Pantheon belief already chosen by another religion to your religion.

whoward69 · Jul 30, 2014

1) I took a look at some time back but got attacked by the meatballs in the spaghetti and gave up on it

Pretty sure 2) can already be done with existing added events and Lua API methods - change belief to have no direct effect, hook event to detect belief being chosen, for the AI add an appropriate belief, for the player pop-up a dialog (the Morindim already choose multiple pantheon beliefs - even if already taken)

kaspergm · Jul 30, 2014

Thanx for answers, too bad on 1), will have to look into 2)!

bane_ · Jul 30, 2014

Using this

Spoiler :

Database tells me this:

Spoiler :

BUT...
It seems to work in-game anyway.

Just thought you should know, probably something wrong in the way the game handles new tables or something? Maybe load order has something to do with it?

Zyxpsilon · Jul 30, 2014

whoward69 said:
The Pregame code (which we do NOT have the source code for)...

Exactly why various types of MODs can't be made or activated as standard. Nearly nothing gets validated at Runtime - or i should say, something highly critical. The main reason why Z-UI cannot and will never be allowed to dispatch necessary assets **before** the inevitable access to the core Menu or/and FrontEnd functions. I was hoping that the official DLL release could fix some of this -- no luck. I was quite dissapointed to witness that fact at the time. Bof, same workaround solution as previously used for it. VFS or not.

Sorry for this small Hi-Jack. Had to mention *MY* reality with graphics.

whoward69 · Jul 31, 2014

bane_ said:
Maybe load order has something to do with it?

Sounds like you've forgotten to make your mod dependant on the DLL mod

Skaz881 · Jul 31, 2014

A quick question: Is iy possible to use the DLL with the Buffed AI mod?

bane_ · Jul 31, 2014

whoward69 said:
Sounds like you've forgotten to make your mod dependant on the DLL mod

But knowing the mod works, should that appear anyway?

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